Mason Mount's Many Misfortunes (please don't make another waste of money post)

No more "waste of money" posts
I think at this point we get it

He's a poor financial transfer, could we not have another post repeating what's been said a thousand times

Thank you
 
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Poor use of financial assets.
 
We shouldn't be looking at his price and we definitely shouldn't be thinking about those idiotic concepts like alternative cost or what else we could do with that 65m, it's a loser mentality. Cherish the smile on his face, the fact he's an English lad with Eredivise experience and that Chelsea are missing him big time.
 
I think injuries have ruined him. He was never standout at Chelsea but was a consistently good performer. I don't remember properly, but he may even have been their best player in the season before the transfer.
 
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People keep talking about the financial side because he’s hardly played enough to discuss the merits of his performance or his value to the team. There’s not a whole lot else to discuss since he never plays.
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
No he was an iron man. His last season he had some sort of bizarre pelvic injury but prior to that he was ever-present.
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The irony (iron man - irony, always explain a pun) is that he was so seldom injured at Chelsea, while now he can’t even come on for twenty minutes after four lengthy breaks without attracting two (!) entirely separate injuries in that time.
 
Typical united, both havertz and mount were available and we go for the crocked player with poorer ability on the ball.
 
Chelsea sold us Mount with one year left on his contract, used the money to buy Cole Palmer and made £15m profit

Congrats to the hiring team. Bravo
 
The most frustrating part is that everyone knew this was a bad signing from the start. Nobody had any spectations and it's been proven right, we have the worst scouting/recruiting team in the world.

How can the majority of fans know better than them? I mean it's bad signing after bad signing at this point by pure luck we should had struck gold but it seems were not only bad at recruiting but also unlucky as feck.
 
What I couldnt understand was paying that much money for a player in his last season, and after buying him have no defined role for him to play. If Bruno was never going to be dropped as he was made captain, surely buying a different player was the way to go.
Looking at it another way if we desperately wanted him , we could have paid him a signing on fee of £5-10 million on the side and picked him up for nothing this season. Mount said when he knew Utd were after him, this was the only club he wanted to play for.
 
GlazersHater said:
The most frustrating part is that everyone knew this was a bad signing from the start. Nobody had any spectations and it's been proven right, we have the worst scouting/recruiting team in the world.
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Most people on this forum knew that it was going to be a bad transfer.
Alas, the people who are paid to know this stuff, did not know.
It is astounding how scouts and the people in charge can be so incompetent.
Even though I have witnessed incompetence at this club for so long, when laid out bare like this, I still find it unbelievable.

And the crazy thing about it is that we are likely to see this level of incompetence continue. A lot of the people who were incompetent 2 years ago are still at the club.
 
wolvored said:
What I couldnt understand was paying that much money for a player in his last season, and after buying him have no defined role for him to play. If Bruno was never going to be dropped as he was made captain, surely buying a different player was the way to go.
Looking at it another way if we desperately wanted him , we could have paid him a signing on fee of £5-10 million on the side and picked him up for nothing this season. Mount said when he knew Utd were after him, this was the only club he wanted to play for.
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ETH set us up with two attacking midfielders last season, so we did have a role for him to play (as the second one next to Bruno). It's just that he started the season poorly, picked up a knock and then lost the spot to McTominay. He then got injured again, and by the time he was fit Mainoo had established himself as first choice in that position while McTominay continued having more impact as the backup. So ETH intended for Mount to be first choice in that role, but he ended up 3rd choice (on the few occasions he was fit).

Then this season we've gone back to using an 8 instead of a second 10, so it'll be even more difficult for him to break into the team despite us selling McTominay.
 
Independent of the money or contract issue, I would not even say those are the biggest issues with the Mount transfer.

The biggest issue for me is that he is not that good, regardless of what he cost. People can bang on about Chelsea player of the season or that Liverpool and Arsenal wanted him as much as they would like, but I never once watched him play for Chelsea and thought “This is a player that would improve us. This is a player I would like at United”
 
Him and Cody Gakpo are the very definition of a nothing player. Except we probably paid a lot more for him than Pool did for Gakpo.
 
ZainCRse7en said:
Between him and Cody Gakpo, both are vying for the title of definition of a nothing player. Except we probably paid a lot more for him than Pool did for Gakpo.
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Gakpo has been way better value for Liverpool than Mount has for Man Utd
 
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DWelbz19 said:
Which is probably why he’s so broken now.
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Possibly - but I don't recall him playing through niggling injuries either? I was never under the impression that he was overly burdened by minutes, especially since he wasn't featuring for full 90s on a regular basis for England.
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
Possibly - but I don't recall him playing through niggling injuries either? I was never under the impression that he was overly burdened by minutes, especially since he wasn't featuring for full 90s on a regular basis for England.
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I’m personally pretty convinced that it contributed heavily to the injury issues he faced in the years that followed. I was complaining about overplaying him in 2022. I remember comparing his number of games over a 3 year period with Odegaard and Foden, and they had played 55 (!!) and 27 less games at the time. Mount seemingly played every single available minute for 3 years and we were going deep in several competitions in those seasons.
 
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WeePat said:
I’m personally pretty convinced that it contributed heavily to the injury issues he faced in the years that followed. I was complaining about overplaying him in 2022. I remember comparing his number of games over a 3 year period with Odegaard and Foden, and Mount had played 55 (!!) and 27 less games at the time. Mount seemingly played every single available minute for 3 years and we were going deep in several competitions in those seasons.
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Ah well fair enough then; my memory is fecking awful so even more so than usual no one should trust what I post. Still don't recall him passing late fitness tests to play or anything like that but could very well be misremembering
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
Ah well fair enough then; my memory is fecking awful so even more so than usual no one should trust what I post. Still don't recall him passing late fitness tests to play or anything like that but could very well be misremembering
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He was basically iron man for 3 years. Almost never missed a game, but eventually it caught up with him, like a lot of us predicted. I have the same concern for Saka. He has played an insane amount of minutes in recent years, Arteta rarely rests him, and he always starts for England too.
 
ZainCRse7en said:
Him and Cody Gakpo are the very definition of a nothing player. Except we probably paid a lot more for him than Pool did for Gakpo.
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Gakpo has been several times more valuable to Liverpool. They are not even in the same category at all. Mount has provided nothing.
 
Still feels unreal we have him. Not in a good way. Just because he's hardly been fit and when he was he did feck all.
 
Godfather said:
Still feels unreal we have him. Not in a good way. Just because he's hardly been fit and when he was he did feck all.
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Underwhelming player, high fee, 1 year left on deal, same position as our undroppable captain.

All that was pretty obvious day 1.

But to do it a mere year or 2 after the exact same mistake with DVB is just beyond belief.

Wonder what the loss will be on Mount? On 250k a week it's inevitable it'll be some sort of £10m fee max, while using most of that to make his wages up.
 
UsualSuspect said:
Well, there in lies the rub. As I mentioned before the signing was completed, you're signing a player who shouldn't be starting for a top 4 contender. But apparently his status as 2-time player of the season was all anyone had ringing in their head.

As I mentioned, he's a good asset - works hard off the ball, tactically flexible, trains well etc. But ultimately, even after statpadding against the likes of Luton and Sheffield Utd, you'll want more. Whether ETH can extract that from him in the long term is the question, but never thought you'd get that now. And it will boil down to eventually half the fanbase wanting him out of the starting XI, but at Chelsea he at least had loyalty from some quarters being a Cobham grad -so will be interesting to see how many continue to back him.
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As it turns out, not too many...
 
One of the signings Sir Jim wants Ashworth to be held personally responsible for.
 
Probably some of the worst financials of all time this one. Somehow a player with one year on his contract AND an agreement with the club managed to balloon to a 55m purchase from a direct competitor with profit and sustainability rules all the rage. It's bizarre that our senior officials allowed us to spend so wrecklessly.
 
I think this was the only signing Manutd have made for which i was 100% confident that would not work nor was needed. For 23 years i have been supporting the club, I have seen us sign the likes of Bebe, Oberton, Owen etc and i have tried to reason with myself and made excuses to make sense of signing. For him i just knew he would not work based on his injury record, seeing him stink up for England, plays in the same position as Bruno who is always fit and without his output. The outside argument that he was bought to play in middle is also a naive one, anybody who has seen him play knows, he is never close to a CM and will never will be. Anybody who thought he would be an upgrade and was worth spending 55M on needs firing.
 
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