Mason Mount's Many Misfortunes (please don't make another waste of money post)

If you've been supporting United for more than 20 years then the number 7 is significant. Just because the dickheads who own our club have made a mess of it recently, doesn't mean the tradition is no longer important.
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It's just a number, you people need to get over it.
 
Maybe its time to move on from giving #7 to mercurial talents and emphasize the workman like, team first attitude Ten Hag seems to embrace. Good luck to Mason for he definitely has his best years ahead of him, despite being a CL winner at 21.
 
It's extremely obvious that Mount will be taking Eriksen's place. Every report on this transfer has been clear that he is coming as our #8 signing and the profile of player completely aligns with how we started using our #8 in the second half of the season, which was pushing high alongside Bruno rather than deeper alongside Casemiro.

"Mount out wide" is this summer's "Martinez as a DM". It's not happening.
Martinez is a CB, he was only ever going to play CB. Mount is a 10/LW but you're saying he will play 8. Quite a different scenario. Let's see end of this season where he ends up/how he does - I don't doubt ETH might try it, I mean he played Shaw successfully as a CB but I don't see it working long term.

All the indications from the press and from the quotes from ETH indicate that he views Mount as a midfielder, albeit a versatile one. I have my doubts as to whether it will work but I'd be surprised if ETH doesn't start the season with him and Bruno as the 8s in front of Casemiro.

Otherwise, not sure where he would play - unlikely to bench Bruno or shift Bruno into Eriksen's deeper position and I doubt he'll be used as a LW either.
See above. I agree though, I don't see how it works but then I guess I trust ETH knows a lot more about football than me. Let's see end of the season. Hopefully I'm wrong and he's immense in there but I have big doubts.
 
I hope he does well, that No7 is a big shirt to fill, lots of history and legends have worn it.
Is he up to it ? Have to admit I have my reservations he can, hopefully he can prove me wrong, but hey it’s just a number.
 
I just came here to see the meltdown from Mount getting the #7 shirt. Exactly what I expected, incoherent and irrational posts over a fecking a shirt number.
 
is a CB, he was only ever going to play CB. Mount is a 10/LW but you're saying he will play 8. Quite a different scenario. Let's see end of this season where he ends up/how he does - I don't doubt ETH might try it, I mean he played Shaw successfully as a CB but I don't see it working long term.

Without being insulting I think you have a real misconception about the type of player he is and where he does his best work. It's really hard to quantify but I'd be glad to have a bet with you that he does very well as a number 8.
 
If everyone is fit I think our strongest line up still includes Eriksen over Mount - he's definitely upgradeable with someone like Caceido but I struggle to see it with Mount because he's just never really played that role and I doubt you can just slot into it despite being a very intelligent player. Case on his own (any player to be honest on their own) is super high risk. If we do see him there we are going to have to dominate the ball to the a similar level as City do because that midfield three in transition (Case/Mount/Bruno) is a disaster waiting to happen if we don't.

I can see Rashford being our 9 this season and Mount starting LW. For me we'd lack a lot of pace in the attack that way given Bruno, Mount and Antony are not that fast. Only other thing I guess we aren't discussing is Antony getting dropped for Mount given there are rumours he's got this reoccurring ankle issue so we'd have Rashford - Martial - Mount as a front three.
If we pay 60m for a midfielder and our strongest line up still has Eriksen there and Mount on the bench, god bless us
 
No Antony is fine off the ball and presses okayish. Mason Mount is genuienly excellent behind the ball.

Some stats, last season for all midfielders in the league Mount was -

- 94th percentile for tackles in midfield.
- 93rd percentile for tackles in the attacking 3rd.
- 86th percentile for dribbles stopped.
- 92nd percentile for success in tackling dribbles. (Meaning he is less likely to be dribbled past than 92% of midfielders. Trust me you don't want to see Eriksen or Fred's numbers here)
- 99th percentile for shots blocked (literally the best midfielder in the league)

Above average on passes blocked, interceptions, clearances and pressures.

Factually one of the best midfielders off the ball in the league, comparing him to Antony is easily disproven by stats in their relative positions. Don't get me started on Eriksen vs Mount for the same figures. The idea that you think our midfield will be less stable with him rather than Eriksen is patently absurd.
Before I address this, because it's already massively flawed, what is the source of stats?
 
Martinez is a CB, he was only ever going to play CB. Mount is a 10/LW but you're saying he will play 8. Quite a different scenario. Let's see end of this season where he ends up/how he does - I don't doubt ETH might try it, I mean he played Shaw successfully as a CB but I don't see it working long term.


See above. I agree though, I don't see how it works but then I guess I trust ETH knows a lot more about football than me. Let's see end of the season. Hopefully I'm wrong and he's immense in there but I have big doubts.

You're overthinking based on rigid ideas of what those positions mean, I think.

If you look at the position on the pitch Eriksen/Fred were actually occupying during a lot of games in the second half of the season, it was high right alongside Bruno as #8/#10 hybrids. As opposed to the start of the season, where they were taking up deeper positions more often.

The former is where Mount will play, and it's an area of the pitch he is already used to operating in. Whether that midfield works more generally I have no idea, but the role for Mount in it is crystal clear.
 
Before I address this, because it's already massively flawed, what is the source of stats?



5 mins onwards. Although given your logic that Eriksen will start and Mount is a left winger I'd say you thinking something about it is flawed is not going to be worth all that much to me.

Was Rooney a left winger? Was Eto'o?
 
It might be a fecking number at other clubs but not for us, the number 7 to us means more than just a number, it means what the Number 10 means to Barca, it's means the most creative and electrifying player within our ranks.

Yes over the last 15yrs we've had players not fit to wear it, but that can't take away what the likes of Best, Cantona and Ronaldo(1st stint) did wearing that Number.

Imo this is a mistake that follows a long line of mistakes in regards with this number over the last decade or So, Mason Mount our Number 7, Piff give me a break,

I mean a player who isn't worth the amount of money we've just spent on him, a Player who isn't amazing at basically anything...?

I hope he proves me wrong but I strongly doubt it, best bet is in a year time he'll be demanding a shirt change Valencia style.

Garnacho for me was the obvious choice!
From what I remember, Best wore #11, #10, #8 and #7, but mainly #11.

Change Beckham for Ronaldo and add Robson and Coppell.
 
Nice to see so many are happy we've made a signing that our manager desperately wanted.
 
That was unexpected and even though I don't care this will lead to even more drama if he turns out a flop. 55m fee, 250k wage, most symbolic back number...
 
Number 7?! Not gonna lie that’s a bit of a shock. Only shirt number I really care about at this club because I do think it has to be earned, and rightly so.. strange decision.
 
If you've been supporting United for more than 20 years then the number 7 is significant. Just because the dickheads who own our club have made a mess of it recently, doesn't mean the tradition is no longer important.
You must have been beaming with pride when Michael Owen donned the legendary shirt.
 
Good to see him signed. While he's not someone I expected to see at Utd he's always struck me a good solid player that the fans will love. Not sure if he'll bring the right balance to our midfield but ETH knows what he wants a hell of a lot better than I do.

Him getting #7 isn't ideal for me, but it's also not as big a deal as some make out. Garnacho certainly shouldn't have been getting it yet, but I do kind of wish we'd just left #7 vacant for now and if Garnacho had kicked on he could have got it in two years or so. But like I said, it's not too big a deal.
 
That was unexpected and even though I don't care this will lead to even more drama if he turns out a flop. 55m fee, 250k wage, most symbolic back number...

How do you know he's on 250k?

Also if he flops then we would have bigger concerns. When Sanchez was stinking out the place did you really care about his shirt number or did you just worry about the fact no one might buy him.
 
If you've been supporting United for more than 20 years then the number 7 is significant. Just because the dickheads who own our club have made a mess of it recently, doesn't mean the tradition is no longer important.
So ten Hag and SAF are dickheads now?
 
Any adult who cares about shirt numbers is weird.

As fans, we can choose not to. But it is becoming increasingly important to players as it has a direct impact to their personal brand and therefore more money. Martial got our #9 jersey and launched a brand called AM9. For him to be suddenly made #11 in 2016, would've been a (quite unnecessary) kick in the teeth. Similarly, had Garnacho got our #7, his own profile for potential sponsors would've grown significantly.
 
It's just sad the way we've cheapened the significance of the no.7 shirt. Another symptom of football losing it's soul, shirt numbers are now irrelevant.
 
It's just sad the way we've cheapened the significance of the no.7 shirt. Another symptom of football losing it's soul, shirt numbers are now irrelevant.
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