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Eriksen is certainly not, as he’s a much better passer than Mount has ever been.

Nonsense. 21/22 Mount beats 22/23 Erikson in the vast majority of passing metrics except sheer quantity in the league. More assists, higher pass completion %, more key passes, more crosses, higher cross completion.
 
I asked someone earlier why they rated McAllister higher than Mount and didn’t get a reply. And I think that question would apply to many here who would be much more upbeat about McAllister going by that thread than Mount going by this one.

Mount is a better 10, better going forward, one of the best pressers in the league, more decisive in the final third. MacAllister is a better 8, who has even played as a 6 in the past, better in tight spaces, a bit more technical, more safe with the ball and less likely to be dispossessed. Really depends on what you want from a midfielder as to who is the better player.
 
I presume the Athletic's report that we only have £100 million to spend is absolute bollocks, considering we're parting with the best part of £60 million for Eminem?
 
I think we'll meet in the middle at £60m
A season's worth of Mount really worth £60 million? Could we not just wait a year instead? I find it hard to believe anyone else is willing to pay Chelsea's minimum asking price.
 
Sounds like a lot of work to go despite some of the tweets yesterday pretty much saying it's done at ~55m.

Would not surprise to find Poch says to keep him, Chelsea match the wage we're offering. Around 50m with a year left sounds about right.
 
A season's worth of Mount really worth £60 million? Could we not just wait a year instead? I find it hard to believe anyone else is willing to pay Chelsea's minimum asking price.

His wages will be more if you get him on a free
 
I presume the Athletic's report that we only have £100 million to spend is absolute bollocks, considering we're parting with the best part of £60 million for Eminem?
Eminem?! :lol: he looks nothing like him ffs!
 
A season's worth of Mount really worth £60 million? Could we not just wait a year instead? I find it hard to believe anyone else is willing to pay Chelsea's minimum asking price.
There's a big value to getting him in now and starting the process to bridge the gap between us and City. He alone obviously doesn't do it but he's clearly important to Ten Hag and the system that needs to be implemented in order to play the way we want.
I never understood the deferral idea. "lets wait a year and get Kane for free. Same for Mount". Just get the players you want in now if there is a deal to be done, and then you at least dont need to worry about panic buying 2nd choices if you lose out.
 
Sounds like a lot of work to go despite some of tweets yesterday pretty much saying it's done at ~55m.

Would not surprise to find Poch says to keep him, Chelsea match the wage we're offering. Around 50m with a year left sounds about right.
There’s gonna be a lot of spin about the fee as he’s a homegrown academy player and it reflects poorly on Chelsea. Fact is he’s going into the last year of his contract and wants to move so they need to sell.
 
A season's worth of Mount really worth £60 million? Could we not just wait a year instead? I find it hard to believe anyone else is willing to pay Chelsea's minimum asking price.
It's a double edged sword. He has another season like 21/22 he'll have a lot of options, if Poch gets them firing he might just decide to stay, particularly if we fluff our lines. But if we waited and he had another season like this one we might not want him anyway.
 
I presume the Athletic's report that we only have £100 million to spend is absolute bollocks, considering we're parting with the best part of £60 million for Eminem?

The Athletic didn't say we only had £100m to spend. They said we would be restricted to a £100m spend if we didn't sell any players. Those aren't the same thing, because we obviously will be selling players.
 
His best position is set by the manager, and he see's him as an 8.
He's home grown, 24, has a lot of potential in that role and it also happens to be in a role we are actively looking to fill. Plus, the manager clearly wants him.

Also - you most certainly assumed his positioning by comparing him to Bruno and Rashford earlier.
How are you saying this so definitively with no ball kicked yet?

The majority of his best football had come playing as an attacking midfielder either centrally or the half spaces between the wings. He also plays as an AM for England.

Saying what EtH sees him as so brazenly without any evidence is strange.
 
The Athletic didn't say we only had £100m to spend. They said we would be restricted to a £100m spend if we didn't sell any players. Those aren't the same thing, because we obviously will be selling players.
So isn’t the tactic then to sell first, considering then teams don’t know we have to sell and bargain for even less?
 
The man who brought in, and regularly started Wout Weghorst…

The man who wanted Arnoutavic…

Mount might well be a great signing, but ETH has already made some very questionable transfers and requests.

He's had to make decisions within very specific constraints. Stop using the Wout decision to abuse him. The man managed to get us to 3rd and 2 cup finals with Wout playing in a majority of matches.

All it does is highlight how much of a troll you are.
 
Every transfer there’s the initial “player wants to join” or “club interested” then the inevitable “big gap in validation” I can’t be arsed with it. What happened to deals being agreed out the blue? Now it’s just tedious beyond belief.
 
So isn’t the tactic then to sell first, considering then teams don’t know we have to sell and bargain for even less?

No more than it ever is. It's normal to go into a transfer window knowing you'll have to sell to buy all the players you want. And the clubs we're looking to buy from don't know who we're planning to sell, how far along those sale processes are or where the player we're looking to buy from them stands in our list of priorities. Plus they need to sell players too.
 
He's had to make decisions within very specific constraints. Stop using the Wout decision to abuse him. The man managed to get us to 3rd and 2 cup finals with Wout playing in a majority of matches.

All it does is highlight how much of a troll you are.

Wind your neck in mate or take a breather.

Bringing in Weghorst and wanting Arnautavic are both very concerning - pointing this out isn’t ‘abusing’ Ten Hag or ‘trolling’. It’s expressing care at what’s best for Utd.

I also added that Mount may well end up a good signing. But it’s for sure an eyebrow raiser given the context of what the squad blatantly needs.

Achieving 3rd and winning the League Cup doesn’t make ETH some kind of infallible Demi God to anyone other than the thickest of cnuts.

He will make mistakes and it’s fine to point them out. Fergie signed Bepe FFS.
 
Itll be double that at least. No chance Chelsea sell for anything that low. Arsenal and Liverpool would happily bid 30-40 million, so we'll be trying to price them out.

But the player supposedly doesn't wanna go anywhere but to us.

It's not 2010.

Jesus, A non-starter, off-form midfield player with a year left on his contract. How much you think he should be?

By the way, Chelsea signed Sterling for £45m last summer, and most people thought City did a great deal. Sterling was a City regular and a scorer which should make his value higher.
 
A season's worth of Mount really worth £60 million? Could we not just wait a year instead? I find it hard to believe anyone else is willing to pay Chelsea's minimum asking price.
Wouldn't be surprised if that's Plan B. We have more pressing concerns in our starting XI.
 
I'm all for the signing. Typical modern day player. Hard-working, versatile and he's a good age. Having said that, we always seem to be fleeced when it comes to signings. For a player like Mount, who is in the last year of his contract and not necessarily coming off the back of a great season, you wouldn't expect him to be 60M (if that is the price) but if that's what Chelsea value him at and we are happy to spend that, then I'm happy.
 
Yes but Chelsea need to sell to balance the books, one year on his contract, Mount wants to leave etc. etc. We wanted to pay 80M for FdJ who had a lengthy contract with Barca and we reached the point where the Fee was actually agreed.

If you were a Chelsea fan and had to decide between something like 40M for Mount vs having him leave on a free next year, what would you take?

The extra assumption I'm making is we'll get atleast 30-40M for McTominay but we can ignore that.
Different kind of players, but yes I agree
 
Mount being a very good player several top teams are interested in is the justification for buying Mount.

But "ETH wants Mount" is justifcation for believing the buy does in fact fit into ETH's structural/tactical plans for the team next season.

And however much we should trust ETH more than ourselves when it comes to judging a player, we should certainly trust him more when it comes to understanding how the tactical plan that's in his head for next season is supposed to function. Especially given we don't actually know what other pieces of the jigsaw he's planning to buy this summer.
Those simply are not options for the 9 position. You can’t have a go at Ten Hag then come out with this
Of course I can regarding WW. WW should not be an option for any position. Marcus as striker, Bruno 10 and the others I mentioned on the wing (or any of them anywhere instead of WW) would have been a miles better option than playing WW again and again.
Regarding Mount, I just can’t see it. If we had a midfield with good ball retention, passing and control, but were missing energy/legs, then Mount could have been a good option. But not in our current midfield situation.
The prices being quoted now are 70-80 mil :lol: So if we then knowing us end up paying something ridiculous like 50-60 mil for him, folks on the Caf will claim it is good value as Chelsea actually wanted much more.
 
But the player supposedly doesn't wanna go anywhere but to us.
Not sure I buy that. Arsenal are potential title contenders (and he'll possibly link up with his best mate there next season), and at Liverpool he'll have the chance to play under Klopp. We might be his preferred destination, but I don't think he turns down either of the two other interested clubs, especially if he's adamant on leaving.
 
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