Where is Bruno?
Where ever he wants. I shared a formation that I would be curious to see.
Where is Bruno?
Nooo this thread is about Mason fecking Mount, how could you?De GeaOh look we've just saved ourselves £55 million..
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This is very concerning.
i mean the only way i can maybe understand this if EtH is viewing rashford as more a CF, and plans on buying a younger, more developmental CF to back him up. Then you have rash more central and bruno becomes his tadic out wide and he wants mount in the middle i guess? Idk havent seen much of mount tbh. But even if he wants to push bruno wide as his new Ajax tadic role if you dont move rashford central there just arent enough spaces for it.I just can’t get my head around this one
i mean the only way i can maybe understand this if EtH is viewing rashford as more a CF, and plans on buying a younger, more developmental CF to back him up. Then you have rash more central and bruno becomes his tadic out wide and he wants mount in the middle i guess? Idk havent seen much of mount tbh. But even if he wants to push bruno wide as his new Ajax tadic role if you dont move rashford central there just arent enough spaces for it.
Absolute disgrace to Muller!If you look at it that way then pretty much. He's basically Thomas Muller, no playmaking and no dribbling. Offering good end of product, pair of legs, versatility, off ball movement, pressing, and link-up play. Mount and Muller are the player that we wish VDB will become but never become.
Mount is a decent player. However I don't understand why we have to be so predictable and part with £50 million for him (and pay him something in the region of £200,000 per week, in all likelihood) when we could instead construct awesome playmaking depth for the foreseeable future with a similar-ish investment by signing 2-3 cheaper talents with comparable or better technical conditions — like Martin Baturina at Dinamo Zagreb (widely considered the best young midfielder at the club since Kovacić), Kang-in Lee at Mallorca (one of the most effective ball-carriers in La Liga and has a €17 million release clause), Xavi Simons at PSV (versatile, and probably the most dominant player at the club since Robben (buyback complications with Paris Saint-Germain notwithstanding)), Alberto Moleiro at Las Palmas (pocket-sized dynamo who is 2nd for assists in the Segunda División), Arda Güler at Fenerbahçe (adapts to different roles and has a knack for killer passes), Alex Scott at Bristol City (wonderfully press resistant, shades of Frenkie de Jong) and others, no doubt (I'm by no means a professional scout with access to top-of-the-line archives and databases). Maybe players like that will not amount to much in the Premier League (whereas Mount is proven to a reasonably good level), but every season we see clubs making astute signings that pay dividends — we won't know until we get creative and take the proverbial plunge, will we?
Also Bruno wide is just idiotic if that's what ETH wants. Tadic is a miles better dribbler than him and was even more so when ETH was there. It's a fecking stupid idea
You can find comfort in the idea that it's likely not an actual target for the club.
And then the same posters will crib that the club's scouting is crapBecause we are still stuck in the stone ages with how we recruit and it's fecking embarassing. I'm really reading comments in this thread of people shrugging their shoulders and saying "uh what players can we really sign for 50m that are better than Mount though?"
It's fine, we'll get taken to the cleaners and then laughed at in a year
Bingo. Especially as we have Casemiro and Eriksen as known quantities. They wouldn't need to start immediately and with their ages/suspension record they'd get plenty of opportunities.Mount is a decent player. However I don't understand why we have to be so predictable and part with £50 million for him (and pay him something in the region of £200,000 per week, in all likelihood) when we could instead construct awesome playmaking depth for the foreseeable future with a similar-ish investment by signing 2-3 cheaper talents with comparable or better technical conditions — like Martin Baturina at Dinamo Zagreb (widely considered the best young midfielder at the club since Kovacić), Kang-in Lee at Mallorca (one of the most effective ball-carriers in La Liga and has a €17 million release clause), Xavi Simons at PSV (versatile, and probably the most dominant player at the club since Robben (buyback complications with Paris Saint-Germain notwithstanding)), Alberto Moleiro at Las Palmas (pocket-sized dynamo who is 2nd for assists in the Segunda División), Arda Güler at Fenerbahçe (adapts to different roles and has a knack for killer passes), Alex Scott at Bristol City (wonderfully press resistant, shades of Frenkie de Jong) and others, no doubt (I'm by no means a professional scout with access to top-of-the-line archives and databases). Maybe players like that will not amount to much in the Premier League (whereas Mount is proven to a reasonably good level), but every season we see clubs making astute signings that pay dividends — we won't know until we get creative and take the proverbial plunge, will we?
What isn't: Mount in or Bruno out wide?
City have like 3/4 top players who are only on bench most weeks. We need to bolster our ranks.
There's strong rumours we are after Rice Kane and Mount now too so there's clearly a ton of money coming in very soon.
Wow if he comes along Kane and Rice..than it's okay. As long as we don't spunk silly money on Chelsea Reject
I'd agree that he's better than Wijnaldum (as long as this season was the exception and Mount gets back to the form he was in previously). Certainly wouldn't take him ahead of Henderson in the deeper role though, I think Henderson was quite a lot better than he gets credit for on here.based on what, what is he better at exactly?
I think Amad and Pellestri were good, with potential to be great, signings but Solskjaer didn't give them a sniff because they weren't his signings and he wanted Sancho. I'm a firm believer if we had invested game time into them when we first bought them, we could've saved the fees of Sancho and Antony and invested that into the centre midfielder and forward position instead. We scouted the likes of Caicedo and Alvarez but again, the power lies in the manager and Murtough's hands and we didn't chase them as hard as we should have, the same goes for Bellingham.If you look at the under the radar signings we have made I cannot bring to mind any that have been successful, even broken into the first team, a few through the you scheme, notably Garnacho from Atleti which at 420k seems like a great deal, especially compared to the fees mentioned in regards to Amad and Pelistri.
I think the last player we signed I had no idea of, who actually turned out to be successful would be Vidic, I am not accepting Martial as a success
So I have no faith in our scouting team
If they don't want to lose him, then they'd pay up. He is a reject because they are sure they can compete without him.Not a reject. He's refusing to sign a new deal because Chelsea are trying to get their wage bill down. They don't want to lose him
Also Bruno wide is just idiotic if that's what ETH wants. Tadic is a miles better dribbler than him and was even more so when ETH was there. It's a fecking stupid idea
Mount is a decent player. However I don't understand why we have to be so predictable and part with £50 million for him (and pay him something in the region of £200,000 per week, in all likelihood) when we could instead construct awesome playmaking depth for the foreseeable future with a similar-ish investment by signing 2-3 cheaper talents with comparable or better technical conditions — like Martin Baturina at Dinamo Zagreb (widely considered the best young midfielder at the club since Kovacić), Kang-in Lee at Mallorca (one of the most effective ball-carriers in La Liga and has a €17 million release clause), Xavi Simons at PSV (versatile, and probably the most dominant player at the club since Robben (buyback complications with Paris Saint-Germain notwithstanding)), Alberto Moleiro at Las Palmas (pocket-sized dynamo who is 2nd for assists in the Segunda División), Arda Güler at Fenerbahçe (adapts to different roles and has a knack for killer passes), Alex Scott at Bristol City (wonderfully press resistant, shades of Frenkie de Jong) and others, no doubt (I'm by no means a professional scout with access to top-of-the-line archives and databases). Maybe players like that will not amount to much in the Premier League (whereas Mount is proven to a reasonably good level), but every season we see clubs making astute signings that pay dividends — we won't know until we get creative and take the proverbial plunge, will we?
What top side operates like this? I remember when teams were supposed to follow the West Ham or Southampton model and look at them nowMount is a decent player. However I don't understand why we have to be so predictable and part with £50 million for him (and pay him something in the region of £200,000 per week, in all likelihood) when we could instead construct awesome playmaking depth for the foreseeable future with a similar-ish investment by signing 2-3 cheaper talents with comparable or better technical conditions — like Martin Baturina at Dinamo Zagreb (widely considered the best young midfielder at the club since Kovacić), Kang-in Lee at Mallorca (one of the most effective ball-carriers in La Liga and has a €17 million release clause), Xavi Simons at PSV (versatile, and probably the most dominant player at the club since Robben (buyback complications with Paris Saint-Germain notwithstanding)), Alberto Moleiro at Las Palmas (pocket-sized dynamo who is 2nd for assists in the Segunda División), Arda Güler at Fenerbahçe (adapts to different roles and has a knack for killer passes), Alex Scott at Bristol City (wonderfully press resistant, shades of Frenkie de Jong) and others, no doubt (I'm by no means a professional scout with access to top-of-the-line archives and databases). Maybe players like that will not amount to much in the Premier League (whereas Mount is proven to a reasonably good level), but every season we see clubs making astute signings that pay dividends — we won't know until we get creative and take the proverbial plunge, will we?
You don’t pay £80m for a rotation player ffs. How many players have Bayern EVER paid £80m for? And he’s shown he’s not good enough at Chelsea, why the feck would paying that much for him be a good deal?
What top side operates like this? I remember when teams were supposed to follow the West Ham or Southampton model and look at them now
You need to think about whether you want to improve your squad or manage pure strings. Mason Mount, if signed, would play plenty of games.. we need another quality, two at least in fact, top quality Premiership midfielders. We play almost 70 games a season, that's close to two Premiership campaigns.
He offers variety, across a number of positions.
We all know the Premiership is crazy money, but it seems it's the likes of Brighton, Wolves, Villa who are picking up players, so called under-the-radar, and I have stated on many occasions that we need to improve our scouting of lower league players across Europe and beyond. There are v v good players out there to be had.
If this means we get him and rice for our midfield I'd be chuffed. Quality players who work incredibly hard and are good professionals is not bad thing to have.
Even without Rice he's a very useful player to have, maybe not an automatic starter, but certainly a great option to have.
United manager Erik ten Hag has highlighted two positions as his priority this summer: a centre-forward and a No 8. Regarding the latter, he has wanted an energetic midfielder who can excel in both the defensive and attacking work, which — as discussed above — is something Mount can do.
Can you please reach out to United with these ideas? Maybe put in an application because we spent far too much so far on average playersMount is a decent player. However I don't understand why we have to be so predictable and part with £50 million for him (and pay him something in the region of £200,000 per week, in all likelihood) when we could instead construct awesome playmaking depth for the foreseeable future with a similar-ish investment by signing 2-3 cheaper talents with comparable or better technical conditions — like Martin Baturina at Dinamo Zagreb (widely considered the best young midfielder at the club since Kovacić), Kang-in Lee at Mallorca (one of the most effective ball-carriers in La Liga and has a €17 million release clause), Xavi Simons at PSV (versatile, and probably the most dominant player at the club since Robben (buyback complications with Paris Saint-Germain notwithstanding)), Alberto Moleiro at Las Palmas (pocket-sized dynamo who is 2nd for assists in the Segunda División), Arda Güler at Fenerbahçe (adapts to different roles and has a knack for killer passes), Alex Scott at Bristol City (wonderfully press resistant, shades of Frenkie de Jong) and others, no doubt (I'm by no means a professional scout with access to top-of-the-line archives and databases). Maybe players like that will not amount to much in the Premier League (whereas Mount is proven to a reasonably good level), but every season we see clubs making astute signings that pay dividends — we won't know until we get creative and take the proverbial plunge, will we?
I think people are overthinking where Mount would fit in if he came.
The Athletic's article makes their perception of it clear:
That #8 role is also what Mount himself considers his best position.
And he has previously played that role in a 4-3-3 under Lampard alongside Kovacic, with Kante as the defensive presence.
And there's a very obvious overlap in profile between Mount and Eriksen, who ETH has played as an #8 all season. Despite many here thinking Erisken wouldn't be used that way last summer, wasn't defensively secure enough, would be a rotation player, or would take Bruno's place. The exact same arguments in regard to Mount.
Using Casemiro/Mount/Bruno as the midfield in a 4-3-3 isn't what I'd do. But it seems pretty obviously something ETH is more likely to do than displacing one of Bruno, Rashford and Antony, three of his key and favoured players. If we sign Mount for that kind of starting player money, that's almost certainly how we set up, for good or ill.
That's what people will use against your point.
Unathletic FFS, what are you on about?