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Won something? He was relegated at West Ham.

More overpriced English dross and not even the profile of midfielder we need, as a Scholes/Carrick midfield is completely unbalanced. You need players who can actually make tackles the Premier League. Carrick also has no pace, isn't a leader and isn't box to box. And people think this is the guy we need to replace Keane? Embarassing. That midfield will get run over.

I'd take him for 5m as he's better than Smith and maybe Fletcher, even though I'm not sure he's a better actual DM than O'Shea is at his best. But I'll be devestated if he's our only CM signing, we need someone like Diarra as well.

Meanwhile Jol and Levy get to sell an overhyped player and bring in a talent like Zokora instead, who looked great in the World Cup. If we pay anything like 15m for Carrick they'll be laughing their way to the bank. If this is the kind of business we can expect this summer then Fergie will be sacked by the end of next season.

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Bruno and Eriksen were also supposed to add that but our team doesn’t know how to compete in the air.
Time for Fellani. No seriously, exactly how much OTT did we actually pay for a 24 year academy graduate who was Chelsea PTY twice?.Whatever the overpayment is, it is worth it to hear Jason Cundy very unhappy and cringing and squirming in his seat at Talksport. Mount hasn't kicked a ball for us yet, can we at least give him a chance before we post "Mason isn't Mounting to much at United"
 
Who the feck has even really seen much of Szoboszlai or Nkunku anyway? How does any United fan find the time to watch all these foreigners play football each week while United are playing? I bet half the people on here haven't even heard of Szoboszlai, much less remember seeing him kick a ball. If we're being honest about it

It's just fashionable to big up rival signings, especially if they're foreign and have a decent highlights video.

On the flipside it's easy to shit on Mason Mount because dullard Gareth Southgate picks him for boring old England. Yet Mount has played at a higher level and achieved far more than either of those nobodies signings for rivals

Exactly. United is on, but nah, prefer to watch Leipzig play against Freiburg. Ffs :lol:
 
Who the feck has even really seen much of Szoboszlai or Nkunku anyway? How does any United fan find the time to watch all these foreigners play football each week while United are playing? I bet half the people on here haven't even heard of Szoboszlai, much less remember seeing him kick a ball. If we're being honest about it

It's just fashionable to big up rival signings, especially if they're foreign and have a decent highlights video.

On the flipside it's easy to shit on Mason Mount because dullard Gareth Southgate picks him for boring old England. Yet Mount has played at a higher level and achieved far more than either of those nobodies signings for rivals

It's all about how they did on FIFA and football manager innit.
 
Won something? He was relegated at West Ham.

More overpriced English dross and not even the profile of midfielder we need, as a Scholes/Carrick midfield is completely unbalanced. You need players who can actually make tackles the Premier League. Carrick also has no pace, isn't a leader and isn't box to box. And people think this is the guy we need to replace Keane? Embarassing. That midfield will get run over.

I'd take him for 5m as he's better than Smith and maybe Fletcher, even though I'm not sure he's a better actual DM than O'Shea is at his best. But I'll be devestated if he's our only CM signing, we need someone like Diarra as well.

Meanwhile Jol and Levy get to sell an overhyped player and bring in a talent like Zokora instead, who looked great in the World Cup. If we pay anything like 15m for Carrick they'll be laughing their way to the bank. If this is the kind of business we can expect this summer then Fergie will be sacked by the end of next season.
I feel like I’ve been sent back in time to 2006.
 
This has been bandied about far too many times in this thread. The main reason for Chelsea’s CL run was Tuchel’s tactics and without him the team has imploded(Mount included). Our POTY has been De Gea far too many times in recent years and not many people seem to feel bad about his departure now.

IMO he is the wrong profile of midfielder we needed to splurge on this window. Another concern for me is the transfer fee and wages involved, we are have also directly boosted transfer budget of a top 4 rival. It’s completely a different case if we were to get him on the cheap due to his contract situation. I’m really worried if Amrabat is the type of midfield backup we are targeting after spending this much on Mount.
They won CL with Mount being their POTY to be fair, which means he has been doing something right, even at young age of 22.
 
This has been bandied about far too many times in this thread. The main reason for Chelsea’s CL run was Tuchel’s tactics and without him the team has imploded(Mount included). Our POTY has been De Gea far too many times in recent years and not many people seem to feel bad about his departure now.

IMO he is the wrong profile of midfielder we needed to splurge on this window. Another concern for me is the transfer fee and wages involved, we are have also directly boosted transfer budget of a top 4 rival. It’s completely a different case if we were to get him on the cheap due to his contract situation. I’m really worried if Amrabat is the type of midfield backup we are targeting after spending this much on Mount.
That doesn't change the narrative though. De Gea was our PoTY for years and was deserved. He overdid his stay but that doesn't change history. As for profile - Mount is 100% EtH type of midfielder. Whether he has the needed quality and if he can take his game to another level is another question.
 
Rubbish. What has Carrick ever won at Spurs or West Ham? Nothing. We should be looking at Marcos Senna from Villarreal. He's class and would cost a fraction of the price.
What about Newcastle's Scotty Parker? I know he missed the last few months of the season through illness but before that he was the one bright spot in a poor Newcastle under Souness. There was even talk of him forcing his way into the reckoning for this summer's World Cup. Just coming into his prime, knows the league and a bid of around £7m would surely tempt them.
 
Exactly. United is on, but nah, prefer to watch Leipzig play against Freiburg. Ffs :lol:

Come on, it’s not like Leipzig are some obscure team in an some obscure league. They’re CL team and their league games are broadcast on Sky most weekends.
 
Come on, it’s not like Leipzig are some obscure team in an some obscure league. They’re CL team and their league games are broadcast on Sky most weekends.

I meant from a United fan's point of view, as the poster that said Szoboszlai was better than Mount was a United fan and claimed he watched Bundesliga every weekend.
 
Exactly. United is on, but nah, prefer to watch Leipzig play against Freiburg. Ffs :lol:
In some countries, select matches and highlights reels from top leagues are broadcasted for free.
If the local stations can't afford EPL, they go La Liga, Series A, bundesliga, and so on.
People like me watch because we lack disposable income for better entrainments.

Dom Szoboszlai is one of those that has caught the eye of many.
From YouTube videos and testimonies of footballing people, he's also got a good head between his shoulders and work very hard.
Being captain for club and country at 22 is a major green flag.
If he's English, he'll be £100m signing, easy.
Liverpool getting him for 60m and less than half of Mount's salary is superb bit of business.
 
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He's not a bad squad player, I was convinced he was joining Klopp this summer for around £35m as he's the sort of high energy midfielder Klopp likes and that's thier sort of price range for this profile of midfielder.

If we had gotten him for around £40m and a good wage, I think this deal would've been more palpable. If it turns out Mount is our biggest transfer of the summer, with say a £35m keeper and £40m for a striker like Hojlund, the concern is that we haven't really upgraded the first XI majorly. Sure we get a ball playing keeper, but they likely won't be as good a shot stopper as De Gea. Hojlund isn't as good as Martial is (when he's actually fit). Mount could surprise me, but in the 10+ Chelsea and England games I've watched him in the only time he ever did something was the assist to Havertz in the CL final.

I must admit I do join some of the others being envious of Liverpool. McAlister for £35m is a great price. Szoboszlai I haven't watched regularly and the German league is weaker, but I have seen him score some crackers and he captains both club and country at 22. If they get Lavia too.. well that's the very good, young midfielders. Unlike us, they also have the benefit of 3 productive forwards in Salah, Jota, and Diaz (productive more in terms of dribbling), whereas only Rashford seems to do anything for us and this will continue to hinder us this season.

I can't help but feel a big £80m striker should've been out first priority, and then add someone like McAlister for £35m and a keeper with the rest of the funds. Or £80m striker and fill the squad with good depth options like Sabitzer at £15m, a £20m keeper, hell even a player like Pulisic is moving for around £20m and provides good depth for 3 attacking positions (whom i rate though many here probably don't, but when he gets a chance he's usually good).

All in all £55m on Mount who doesn't really offer anything specialised other than hard work seems a big gamble as our biggest transfer spend (he won't get as many goals as a lot of his goals are from positions Bruno occupies). We shall see.

Mount is better than Eriksen, so we've upgraded our first XI there. Any forward who can play more than 20 games is an upgrade on Martial.

Jota went over 30 games and a year without a goal, hardly the most productive forward out there.
 
Dom Szoboszlai is one of those that has caught the eye of many.
From YouTube videos and testimonies of footballing people, he's also got a good head between his shoulders and work very hard.
Being captain for club and country at 22 is a major green flag.
If he's English, he'll be £100m signing, easy.
Liverpool getting him for 60m and less than half of Mount's salary is superb bit of business

Make up a hypothetical scenario and conclude how he would have been a 100 minion player, and then celebrate for signing him for bargain price.

Apparently all Liverpool players are paid peanuts and their wage bill is as big as ManUtd's.
 
Make up a hypothetical scenario and conclude how he would have been a 100 minion player, and then celebrate for signing him for bargain price.

Apparently all Liverpool players are paid peanuts and their wage bill is as big as ManUtd's.
Hey hey, but what about testimonies from footballing people and him having a good head between his shoulders?
Liverpool doing shrewd business again.
 
I don’t know how good Szobozlai is, not seen much. Two years ago, at Szoboslai’s age, Mount was Chelsea’s best player, including in UCL semi and finals, and set up the goal in the final (think it was a through-ball to Havertz). He was a quality player then and he should be a good signing for United.
 
Yup. That, and 250k, gets him out of bed in the morning

I don’t think it’s solely about money like people like to make out. Chelsea offered him better terms and tried to keep him. If he was happy there he would have took it.(yes it was a shit show but if happy something could of been sorted) The fact ETH has gone for him first, made him a priority and offered him terms he wanted, shows love, I think that goes a long way for a player. From what I have read aswell he has always had a soft spot for ex united players. The videos doing the rounds of him as a kid copying Ronaldo, beckham cited as his footballing idol.

people like to talk as if united is Skegness fc or something, it’s not. It’s a bigger club than Chelsea (just not a better team in recent years) and it wants him more. Of course money talks but it won’t be the sole factor. Hopefully he’s really up for this and keen to repay the massive love the club has showed him and particularly ETH. We need him at his best. Him, Bruno and case linking up could be tasty though.
 
In some countries, select matches and highlights reels from top leagues are broadcasted for free.
If the local stations can't afford EPL, they go La Liga, Series A, bundesliga, and so on.
People like me watch because we lack disposable income for better entrainments.

Dom Szoboszlai is one of those that has caught the eye of many.
From YouTube videos and testimonies of footballing people, he's also got a good head between his shoulders and work very hard.
Being captain for club and country at 22 is a major green flag.
If he's English, he'll be £100m signing, easy.
Liverpool getting him for 60m and less than half of Mount's salary is superb bit of business.
Mason Mount has caught the eye of many. Notably top managers like Ten Hag and Klopp, and he is English. Guess that makes his value at least £100m? Superb bit of business to sign him for only £55m
 
That doesn't change the narrative though. De Gea was our PoTY for years and was deserved. He overdid his stay but that doesn't change history. As for profile - Mount is 100% EtH type of midfielder. Whether he has the needed quality and if he can take his game to another level is another question.
The point I'm trying to make is we were so average we had to keep voting our GK to be our PoTY. De Gea was the best of a bad bunch. I'm not saying the entire Chelsea team was as average as us but their team was not setup for any attackers to shine. Being PoTY which is a fan vote is not such a huge thing as people make it out to be.

I hope Mount is what EtH is looking for. I have my doubts.
 
Rubbish. What has Carrick ever won at Spurs or West Ham? Nothing. We should be looking at Marcos Senna from Villarreal. He's class and would cost a fraction of the price.
Exactly opposite is happening now. Every one seems to celebrate Mount for winning the CL whereas plenty of people would be happy if we ended up signing Caicedo.
 
Sure, we overpaid for him, but I’m still looking forward to seeing him in a United shirt.

Every Chelsea fan I’ve spoken to is gutted they have lost him, not just because he is from their academy, but because of what he brings on the pitch, so let’s see - I think he’s going to surprise a few people.
 
Won something? He was relegated at West Ham.

More overpriced English dross and not even the profile of midfielder we need, as a Scholes/Carrick midfield is completely unbalanced. You need players who can actually make tackles the Premier League. Carrick also has no pace, isn't a leader and isn't box to box. And people think this is the guy we need to replace Keane? Embarassing. That midfield will get run over.

I'd take him for 5m as he's better than Smith and maybe Fletcher, even though I'm not sure he's a better actual DM than O'Shea is at his best. But I'll be devestated if he's our only CM signing, we need someone like Diarra as well.

Meanwhile Jol and Levy get to sell an overhyped player and bring in a talent like Zokora instead, who looked great in the World Cup. If we pay anything like 15m for Carrick they'll be laughing their way to the bank. If this is the kind of business we can expect this summer then Fergie will be sacked by the end of next season.
Beautiful.
you're fuking mental....Carrick was an absolutely brilliant player. He was a close of an english player as you could find that compared to Busquets and we all know how vital Busquets has been for spain and barca.
:lol: oh dear.
 
He is gonna be 30 years old in 6 years time. Spending 60m on a soon to be 30 year old hardworking but limited system player with 1 year left in his contract is just dumb business.
Yup, in 6 years we'll need to get a replacement and he wont have any resale value.
 
Sure, we overpaid for him, but I’m still looking forward to seeing him in a United shirt.

Every Chelsea fan I’ve spoken to is gutted they have lost him, not just because he is from their academy, but because of what he brings on the pitch, so let’s see - I think he’s going to surprise a few people.

I like Mount and could not understand the negative press he would get from mostly England fans. He seems like a solid 7 out of 10 player with scope for higher in certain games. He's a good buy for Utd.

But no club pays that sort of money for a player in the final year of his contract. It alerts the rest of the world you're ready to be ripped off again. Expecting to see more Maguire, Sancho, Antony level figures for the rest of your purchases who will not be worth half their fees.
 
Complaining about transfers within the PL has always happened here.

I think people have a right to complain if they don't like a signing for whatever reason, especially if it's a player we've all seen in the PL.

There's an attempt to make critics or people not in favour of a transfer look like whiney babies but they aren't always wrong. There were a lot of posters against the Maguire transfer and they've been proven right. Matic was another one hotly debated and whether it made sense buying a player past his peak and close to 30.

On the other hand, people weren't too high on Valencia when he signed and he ended up being a really good player. Everyone was ecstatic about Berbatov and he ended up being average and unbalancing a great attack.

The caf has always been the same. Carrick had doubters back then too especially for the price.

We get some right and we get some wrong. I certainly prefer hearing people's opinions on players they've actually watched and why they think it will or won't work rather than just saying you trust Ten Hag with the signing.
 
I meant from a United fan's point of view, as the poster that said Szoboszlai was better than Mount was a United fan and claimed he watched Bundesliga every weekend.

I hear you but it's hardly an impossible claim to say you watch the Bundesliga every weekend. Its a top league with 4-5 games broadcast in the UK every weekend. I don't think Szoboszlai is better but I had him at the top list of players Chelsea should target to replace Mount.
 
I like Mount and could not understand the negative press he would get from mostly England fans. He seems like a solid 7 out of 10 player with scope for higher in certain games. He's a good buy for Utd.

But no club pays that sort of money for a player in the final year of his contract. It alerts the rest of the world you're ready to be ripped off again. Expecting to see more Maguire, Sancho, Antony level figures for the rest of your purchases who will not be worth half their fees.

G.Jesus and Sterling had one year left on the contract and they were sold for 45 million and 47 million.

55 million + 5 is not really that far off from those fee and both of them were squad players,
 
The point I'm trying to make is we were so average we had to keep voting our GK to be our PoTY. De Gea was the best of a bad bunch. I'm not saying the entire Chelsea team was as average as us but their team was not setup for any attackers to shine. Being PoTY which is a fan vote is not such a huge thing as people make it out to be.

I hope Mount is what EtH is looking for. I have my doubts.

Your point doesn't make sense. The year he won POTY, Chelsea won the CL. That is not an average season.
 
G.Jesus and Sterling had one year left on the contract and they were sold for 45 million and 47 million.

55 million + 5 is not really that far off from those fee and both of them were squad players,
Liverpool signed the Ox for 35m+5m add ons 6 years ago when he had one year left on his contract.

55m +5 add ons doesn't seem that bad for a player with the English/homegrown tax. It'd just the way the market is.
 
G.Jesus and Sterling had one year left on the contract and they were sold for 45 million and 47 million.

55 million + 5 is not really that far off from those fee and both of them were squad players,

Yeah he's talking bollocks. The Mount fee isn't going to be the benchmark for what other clubs will look to overcharge us.
 
G.Jesus and Sterling had one year left on the contract and they were sold for 45 million and 47 million.

55 million + 5 is not really that far off from those fee and both of them were squad players,

Whenever Chelsea fans discussed Mount's worth before contract standoff happened (as in before we thought he could be leaving) 55M was seen as a pretty low valuation for him. A lot of us would value him at between 70-80M based on the player he's been, the player he could become, his achievements so far etc. You're getting an excellent player (Ten Hag's first choice target) at a good price. Sucks for me (I'm not there yet, but he'll soon be a big villain in my eyes who's downfall I will be praying for) but I would be extremely happy with what United have done here if I was a United fan.
 
Liverpool signed the Ox for 35m+5m add ons 6 years ago when he had one year left on his contract.

55m +5 add ons doesn't seem that bad for a player with the English/homegrown tax. It'd just the way the market is.
Yeah he's talking bollocks. The Mount fee isn't going to be the benchmark for what other clubs will look to overcharge us.

It's just @Dumbstar being a WUM as usual.

Whenever Chelsea fans discussed Mount's worth before contract standoff happened (as in before we thought he could be leaving) 55M was seen as a pretty low valuation for him. A lot of us would value him at between 70-80M based on the player he's been, the player he could become, his achievements so far etc. You're getting an excellent player (Ten Hag's first choice target) at a good price. Sucks for me (I'm not there yet, but he'll soon be a big villain in my eyes who's downfall I will be praying for) but I would be extremely happy with what United have done here if I was a United fan.

Yeah, I think contract situation is the only reason he was available, good that EtH is getting the player he wanted.

I hope this was all worth it.
 
Whenever Chelsea fans discussed Mount's worth before contract standoff happened (as in before we thought he could be leaving) 55M was seen as a pretty low valuation for him. A lot of us would value him at between 70-80M based on the player he's been, the player he could become, his achievements so far etc. You're getting an excellent player (Ten Hag's first choice target) at a good price. Sucks for me (I'm not there yet, but he'll soon be a big villain in my eyes who's downfall I will be praying for) but I would be extremely happy with what United have done here if I was a United fan.

Exactly. People getting carried away with we have been ripped off etc... Its actually a fair price.

Its quite interesting that the United fans who are moaning about this, saying he isn't a world beater etc... also complain when we go spend £90m on players who get us all excited but don't actually do much.

Mount is exactly what United need, a system player for a system manager.
 
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