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But you're making it out like all of this is down us.

Chelsea are being ridiculous with their demands and we've compromised 3 times. They still want more and we obviously have a budget that won't allow for that.

We have other priority areas that need addressing and if we overpay for Mount it will have a knock on effect. We also know that ETH has back ups of the same profile in case we don't get Mount.

Arsenal aren't breezing through anything. They've just overpaid for Havertz and are probably gonna overpay for Rice, having been chasing him since the end of the season. It's still not 100% he'll join them.

The hysteria of certain sections of this fan base... sheesh!!
So season after season, it's OK not to have new players in by the start of training/the season. I wonder why we started so poorly last year...

as I said, I'm no fan of Mount by ETH clearly wants him
 
what a ridiculous comment. this is a forum where fans put forward their opinions: if you think Arsenal can spent £200m and we are baulking at an extra £5m and not think something is wrong, well, I've got a unicorn you might want to buy
I don’t follow arsenal finances and as far as I know they aren’t going through a sales process
 
I have a feeling Mount a bit deeper in midfield might have been a bit like what Beckham might have been in Centre midfield for us - with more balls played on the ground.

Looking at Mount’s highlights - he seems to make on the floor crosses from out wide, takes quite consistent deadly corners, has the ability to score free kicks, has energy, makes through balls and has the ability to dribble out of tight areas whilst finding himself in the right spot at the right time to finish moves just inside or outside the box.
 
So season after season, it's OK not to have new players in by the start of training/the season. I wonder why we started so poorly last year...

as I said, I'm no fan of Mount by ETH clearly wants him

Again, how is this the clubs fault?
We've done exactly the right thing - told Chelsea its our last bid for him, we'll walk away if they refuse.

They refused.

We walk away, but leaving the door open if they lower their demands.

We start making moves on the alternatives identified (more than likely ETH knows who they are and have signed off on them).

Obviously ETH wants Mount but he'll know the situation and after a summer long pursuit of De Jong last year he'd be wise not to repeat that, because that's what makes the club look amateurish.
Again, i'm struggling to see how you think this is our fault or a bad look on the club.
 
Euro on the horizon he can't be a bench warmer or okay with reserves. If he stays probably he will sign new contract and play well for us. :)

He isn’t going to sign a new contract if Chelsea treat him poorly though, by sticking him in the reserves. Your only hope to retain him is to make him a guaranteed starter this season and offer him £250k or more wages.
 
Euro on the horizon he can't be a bench warmer or okay with reserves. If he stays probably he will sign new contract and play well for us. :)
You tried pulling a fast one on him and pissed him off, unless you sweeten him up and pay him what he wants, he's walking on a free next summer.
 
Ajax forum says that if Mount transfer can't be realized ETH goes for Kudus.
 
Kudus basically plays as high as Bruno, but I don't see him to have as high workrate to do it on Title chase level.
For what it's worth the article also says Caicedo is an alternative but as far as I am aware he already committed to Brighton so we might as well take the article with a truckload of salt.
 
If you don't want to be known as the kid to shake up for lunch money, stand up and punch a bully.
 
Does anyone think we might go for Caicedo & Mount, and transition to a 3-4-2-1 ala City?

Barthez
Varane - Martinez - Shaw
Caicedo - Casemiro
Antony - Mount - Bruno - Garnacho
Rashford​
 
Does anyone think we might go for Caicedo & Mount, and transition to a 3-4-2-1 ala City?

Barthez
Varane - Martinez - Shaw
Caicedo - Casemiro
Antony - Mount - Bruno - Garnacho
Rashford​

No, Caidedo will sign for Chelsea anyway
 
See, our management team can't win can they?

When we bend over and pay stupid fees, they get criticised.

When they negotiate and refuse to be taken advantage of, they are criticised.

Imagine a World in which we beat Chelsea to Caicedo this year and then sign Mount for a much reduced fee in January/free next Summer. If another club did that, it would be hailed as genius.

Its not about whether its £5m or £10m or whatever. Its sending a message that the Adult Disneyland days of Ed Woodward are over.
 
See, our management team can't win can they?

When we bend over and pay stupid fees, they get criticised.

When they negotiate and refuse to be taken advantage of, they are criticised.

Imagine a World in which we beat Chelsea to Caicedo this year and then sign Mount for a much reduced fee in January/free next Summer. If another club did that, it would be hailed as genius.

Its not about whether its £5m or £10m or whatever. Its sending a message that the Adult Disneyland days of Ed Woodward are over.

If we did that we would be hailed as genius, we won't though we won't even bid for Caidedo in my opinion because we can't afford it. We are simply trying to pressure Chelsea to accept the current offer
 


Stone suggesting we might look to make a offer for Caicedo.

This could be a very clever move from you guys. It's effectively sell us Mount for a fair price or watch us push the price of Caicedo through the roof and make life very difficult for you.

I don't think you have much real intention of buying Caicedo, but you do intend to put as much pressure on Chelsea as possible.
 
See, our management team can't win can they?

When we bend over and pay stupid fees, they get criticised.

When they negotiate and refuse to be taken advantage of, they are criticised.

Imagine a World in which we beat Chelsea to Caicedo this year and then sign Mount for a much reduced fee in January/free next Summer. If another club did that, it would be hailed as genius.

Its not about whether its £5m or £10m or whatever. Its sending a message that the Adult Disneyland days of Ed Woodward are over.
Spot on!

I just really hope we aren’t bluffing and really do stick to our guns for once.
 
Does anyone think we might go for Caicedo & Mount, and transition to a 3-4-2-1 ala City?

Barthez
Varane - Martinez - Shaw
Caicedo - Casemiro
Antony - Mount - Bruno - Garnacho
Rashford​
How much to get Fabian out of his racing contract?
 
Does anyone think we might go for Caicedo & Mount, and transition to a 3-4-2-1 ala City?

Barthez
Varane - Martinez - Shaw
Caicedo - Casemiro
Antony - Mount - Bruno - Garnacho
Rashford​
I can't see a 51 year old bring great in the modern Premier league
 
Does anyone think we might go for Caicedo & Mount, and transition to a 3-4-2-1 ala City?

Barthez
Varane - Martinez - Shaw
Caicedo - Casemiro
Antony - Mount - Bruno - Garnacho
Rashford​
Antony Mount Bruno
 
It’s the 433.

Keeper
AWB - CB - Martinez - Shaw
Casemiro
Mount - Bruno

Antony - Kane - Rashford

To
Sweeper Keeper
RCB - Martinez
AWB - Casemiro - Shaw
Mount - Bruno
Kane
Antony - Rashford​

Casemiro plays as a CDM and a 3rd False CB.

Kane plays as a striker and an False 9.

Depending on who has the ball.
Nope. Last season we mainly played 4141 in defence and 325/316 in attack.
 
This could be a very clever move from you guys. It's effectively sell us Mount for a fair price or watch us push the price of Caicedo through the roof and make life very difficult for you.

I don't think you have much real intention of buying Caicedo, but you do intend to put as much pressure on Chelsea as possible.
I fecking wish we went for Caicedo and then snapped up Mount for free next summer but that'd be way too sensible a move for Utd.
 
This could be a very clever move from you guys. It's effectively sell us Mount for a fair price or watch us push the price of Caicedo through the roof and make life very difficult for you.

I don't think you have much real intention of buying Caicedo, but you do intend to put as much pressure on Chelsea as possible.
They can do whatever they want. If they want mount should meet our valuation. Same for us if we want caicedo we will meet brighton s valuation.

If manutd want to pressure us by going for caicedo then so be it. If they sign him for brighton s fair valuation then good luck to manutd. We will go to next target.
 
I find it alittle wierd to see players crying when leaving a club to join another? I mean nobody is putting a gun to your head forcing you to leave.
Have you never changed jobs?
Anytime I've left to start another job has been very stressful and emotional for me, even though I knew the new job was better.
 
They can do whatever they want. If they want mount should meet our valuation. Same for us if we want caicedo we will meet brighton s valuation.

If manutd want to pressure us by going for caicedo then so be it. If they sign him for brighton s fair valuation then good luck to manutd. We will go to next target.
Thanks Todd :D
 
We'll get him for 15m in January, or for free next June.
Chelsea are fukn idiots, serves them right for following the Levy playbook.
 
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