Mount is gonna be free next season and we're going to need another midfielder anyway so the ideal scenario would be Caicedo now and Mount on a free next summer. I'm sure Ten Hag likes to think ahead too.
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Mount is gonna be free next season and we're going to need another midfielder anyway so the ideal scenario would be Caicedo now and Mount on a free next summer. I'm sure Ten Hag likes to think ahead too.
What will happen if mount performed well and make chelsea into top 5 team at the expense of United? There are lot of variables in real world. Everything could change in year s time.
Think that's why they said "ideal scenario"
Good for him, then we will take a very good player on free next season.
That applies for any player who is being chased. You can't make a decision based on probability.
What changed your mind on him in the past few weeks , when you posted this?
Thanks for the lengthy post! I wasn't really that aware of Caicedo's limitations but your take makes perfect sense. I guess what's still a bit unclear to me is the pursuit of De Jong. Was De Jong supposed to be the second 8 in an inverted triangle system? He is mainly known for his ability to hold up the ball and carry it out from the back which is why I am thinking we tried to fit in Eriksen in that role. How do you think we'd have set up if we'd gotten him last summer?
He is shit. I still dont rate him. I do not think he is a good player. He had one good season, the rest is pure mediocrity. But if you say he will carry Chelsea, he will be a "good" player on a free. Not difficult. I wouldnt pay money for him if he is free in 12 months.
I think that De Jong is capable of both, which is why he’s such a rare commodity. He’s a ball carrier from deep, decent defensive awareness, but he also has the technical ability to operate higher up the pitch and work in a high press. I think he’d have operated as an 8, with Bruno as an 8/10 hybrid.
Watching De Jong play, he always looked best when he played ahead of a DM, rather than sitting deep as a DM himself. I think he’d operate the same way Mount would, but because he’s such a unique player, I think he’d have a more rounded skill set. It’s easy to see why ETH wanted him above anyone else. And yes, we’d play an inverted triangle with De Jong, like we would with Mount. Mount’s defensive contributions are under rated.
See, this is just dumb. He's clearly not shit, he's had more than one good season, and you then contradict your own claim that he's shit by stating he's mediocre.
Where on earth have I said he will "carry Chelsea"?
If you think he's shit then surely you think it's a bad signing, even on a free.
You’re embarrassing yourself. Within half an hour he’s gone from a very good player to shit.
It’s about time we pull a Bayern and get him for free next year.
doesn’t make sense to pay over the odds for him. He’s not 60m player even in todays market.
just walk away and if ETH wants him come back in Jan with low ball offer or just strike a deal with him at the time to get him for free in a year time
doesn’t make sense to pay over the odds for him. He’s not 60m player even in todays market.
just walk away and if ETH wants him come back in Jan with low ball offer or just strike a deal with him at the time to get him for free in a year time
For the standard of Manchester united, mediocre is shit. I do not rate him at all and I am happy we are staying away. If he as the other poster do prove everybody wrong next season and show signs of quality for a second season, win win, he will be a free agent.
I guess you don't understand football then, because he's far above mediocre in ability.
Not at all. I think at the moment he is shit. If, and that is a big If (as the Chelsea poster claim) he could carry Chelsea to glory next season, then we lose nothing as he will be a good player on a free. But I do not think he will do that cause I do not believe he is as good as some posters claim he is. Understand the context of the speech now mate?
If mediocre is shit, what adjectives would you use to describe your current midfield options out of curiosity?
Did you think he was shit two years ago when he was the best player in the side that walked the CL? Or are you just entirely ruled by recency bias?
It was one good season.
That was 2 years ago. You trying to say he’s a 1 season wonder and hasn’t done anything for 2 years?
I guess some just get off on being confidently ignorant.
The season after that he scored 11 goals and had 10 assists in the league.
Go ahead and look up any creative metric during those two seasons and he's top 5 in the PL. Dismissing him as a "one season wonder" or suggesting that he hasn't ever been elite is complete nonsense.
Which options? Bruno plays in a bit similar position to him who is far better than him. But if you want me to describe our bench midfield options then they should be nowhere near OT.
On a free, wouldnt hurt me. Can always try him and sell him for profit if it does not work.
We can agree to disagree about the extent to which Bruno is better, but surely you can see my point that you are hardly in a position to turn your nose up to a 24 year old England international who has already proven he can do the business at the highest levels of the sport?
Maybe Mount isn't the most tantilising player because you don't have the allure of the unknown, but I just find the dismissal of him to be totally bizarre (and probably driven almost entirely by people watching him play for a spastic England side).
We've had people claim he wasn't a regular starter under Potter, despite him being the 4th/5th most used player by minutes/appearances. We've had people claim he was dropped at the end, when it was injury that kept him out. We have people claiming he has no end product, that he doesn't create, that he's "all fart no shit", and at least one comparing him to Lingard. So yeah, I don't think many of his detractors have seen much of him outside of his England performances (which I'm willing to bet are the result of Southgate being a massive coward and asking him to play it safe).
Yeah the Lingard comparison was especially hilarious.
And honestly I can understand why people who don't watch Mount regularly don't rate him; he's not flashy, he does a lot of things that benefit the side that don't get highlighted on MotD, he had a (totally unfair) reputation as some sort of teachers' pet that made people scrutinise his performances as a very young player, etc. That said, this thread is an absolute goldmine of confidently incorrect posts.
Ah, I see. Similar thing going on with Levy and Kane, despite the latter's importance to his team.
Mount’s a good player and at todays valuations good value at anywhere around 60M, way better than Fred McTominay etc. Would add a lot of stability to the squad. We need a quality striker, that’s the top need in my mind. If we could get Fred and McTominay out for the price of Mount and use the young lads as squad players then we should spend the full budget on a striker and be way better. Would like to address the keeper issue too but if we only have 100M then we need to use it all on a striker. Getting Mount for McFred money would be a real bonus. If we sign him I’m buying the jersey.
A good player who if used well can be a goalscoring midfielder and creative player. About (8/10 goals and 8/10 assists per season). What’s not to like having him for next 5-8 years with his peak years still to come? But anything above 60 million pounds is a risk
On a free, you'll probably find a few more clubs interested, offering him better wages than they could now, offering him big signing bonuses. Hell one good season under Poch and he'll end up staying at Chelsea.
If he's the man we need, in the eyes of whoever is calling the shots, then it would be daft to not sign him now. And you can't tell me Caicedo is next summers target because, if that's the case, then I have even bigger worries about our recruitment.
It's honestly like the never ending rebuild project.
Give it a rest Chelsea fans. One minute you tell us that if he stays he’ll rot in the reserves, the next you’re saying if we don’t pay what Todd wants then he’ll probably win the Ballon Dor and Real Madrid will come knocking.
It’s one or the other. Can’t be both.
I would favour him as a better fit for Erik's system IF we could actually get Rabiot too. We could then focus on getting that CM who has the ability to progress from deep.
I wasn’t suggesting anything. I was asking as i don’t really watch him play weekly. Just the way you said 2 years ago he was good like he hasn’t been for 2 years.
All depends who'll be in charge of the transfers.
I'd leave it. He's obviously clueless.
Just thought I'd share a comment I read from a Chelsea fan on a mount article. He said (no laughing at the back) I hope if mount leaves he goes to Liverpool typical of United trying to bully teams again.
Euro on the horizon he can't be a bench warmer or okay with reserves. If he stays probably he will sign new contract and play well for us.
what a ridiculous comment. this is a forum where fans put forward their opinions: if you think Arsenal can spent £200m and we are baulking at an extra £5m and not think something is wrong, well, I've got a unicorn you might want to buy
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