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Suck a dick Chelsea, he's worth 40 tops.
Chelsea will eventually have to decide if they want £55m for Mount now, or a dissatisfied player for a year with no transfer fee at the end. Unless of course they sell him for less to a non-PL team - can't imagine they can find higher bids.
We are doing the right thing it seems, in sticking to our guns. Just hope we eventually do add a midfielder this summer.
We are doing the right thing it seems, in sticking to our guns. Just hope we eventually do add a midfielder this summer.
Why?
He could have kicked up a huge fuss to force a move. He is happy to stay silently. Chelsea constantly force or unsettle transfer targets(enzo recently) to force the hand of other clubs.
I think this still gets done. Its just some gamesmanship from United.
Bit unlike Bayern to want him now when they could have him for free in a year
Probably but at least it shows we are prepared to walk which is at least a positive sign
I’m surprised Ornstein hasn’t chimed in yet. I suspect United and Chelsea are still negotiating and a deal will be struck at £60M.
Think it'll be £50m + £5m in easy add-ons and £5m in unrealistic ones, personally
There is no fecking way Bayern pay 60m for Mount. That's just not how they roll - especially when they can get whoever they want from Germany.
It’s alright if we don’t end up with Mount. I think there are a lot more attacking midfielder talents than DMs or midfielders who operate deep. We already have Bruno who is world class and Eriksen to backup since he won’t be tasked to playing deep, which personally I feel is a mistake. Eriksen did amazingly well for Spurs when he played far higher up the pitch.
According to the article, Chelsea will give foreign clubs a discount.
You can’t. Mark out Bruno in that scenario and there goes our creativity from midfield. Relying on someone that can be so hot and cold as our only creator would not be wise.
Me neither. Only thing is I want EtH to get the players he wants to play the system he wants to play.
If we aren’t getting Mount I really hope there’s another option to play that role in a similar way.
Actually I hope that option is Hannibal Mejbri. It sounds fanciful but if we have Eriksen sharing the minutes with Hannibal it might be okay. It’s one explanation of why we might switch from Mount to a very different type in Caicedo - ie Caicedo would not be bought for the Mount role- he’d be for tactical flexibility and to compete with Case.
In that light he would be expensive and might only get 20 starts in his first year but after that he’ll start taking over from Case. We could compare this with Keane’s first season where he played in a few different positions and only gradually became first choice in his CM role (despite being British record signing).
For us to drop interest and now be interested in Chelsea's primary target...yeah this is a tactic from Murtough and Co to get them to succumb to our previous offer.
I don’t know. United would look absolutely pathetic if they briefed that final offer thing and then briefed today they’ve walked away only to give us the £65M they threatened to walk away over anyway. I think it’ll be £55M + 5 and that will be that, sadly.
IMO is better to change the strategy now, sign up Caicedo and shore up the midfield. We can now try to sign an excellent attacking right back and use width to attack. AwB is a better sellable asset than Fred and McTominay. If I had my way I would try to sell Dalot as I don’t rate him at all but he did sign an extension.
All well and good - unless Mount doesn’t want to go abroad. I think he wants the Utd move to resurrect his international career, plus we’d likely pay him more anyway.
And Casemiro and Caicedo are far better than McFred at retaining possession and intercepting. We can afford to play a lot higher with a new GK as well.
Thank Christ if we go for Caceido instead, a far superior and useful player
Yeah I think Chelsea want the notional total to be £60m and we only want to actually pay £55m so the gap will be made up of “wins ballon d’or” and “wins World Cup” etc.
No way Chelsea would sell in January. It would depend on how we are doing and how they are doing in the season as well.
I’m a bit concerned that our club is just realising the “United” tax. They should have done this the moment they saw the Kovacic deal or hell the moment Chelsea quoted 70m initially.
Your maths are off mate! I reckon it'll be £60m total, but more realistically £55m barring things like Mount to finish top 3 in the Balon d'Or, etc.
Yeah exactly - gotta throw a bone to all the social media muppets whose brains can't work beyond "big number go brrrrrrrrr"
To be honest, Werner and Havertz brought some German fans to the Talk Chelsea and they say this Bayern interested is not in the German media. It sounds like both sides are playing PR games.
I don’t mind walking away from this one, we can’t be held to ransom by fecking Chelsea, they’re the ones who need the money. I can see Chelsea lowering their asking price when they realise they need the cash.
At least we didn’t pay 65m for Kai Havertz.
At least we didn’t pay 65m for Kai Havertz.
Goodness Gracious.
Utd: here is our last and best offer
Chelsea: not enough
Utd: OK, we will go for Caicedo then
Chelsea: fine, we will sell Mount to Bayern for less than you offered
This is almost playground negotiating
Utd: here is our last and best offer
Chelsea: not enough
Utd: OK, we will go for Caicedo then
Chelsea: fine, we will sell Mount to Bayern for less than you offered
This is almost playground negotiating
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That's quite the u-turn
Mount won’t go there. But it also shows Chelsea we’re trying to actively pull our pants down over this too.
My bad
I totally read your post as £55M + £5M easy add-ons + £5M unrealistic ones.
Come on, it's not that we think Kane will be too expensive; we dropped out because Levy wouldn't negotiate. You're attributing things people on this sub have said to what the club is thinking.
It will be quite the toxic situation in the Chelsea dressing room for the upcoming year. That's a certainty.
Chelsea should have accepted the £40M with perhaps a share of undisclosed performance-related add-ons instead of being the greedy fools.
Chelsea should have accepted the £40M with perhaps a share of undisclosed performance-related add-ons instead of being the greedy fools.
My bad
I totally read your post as £55M + £5M easy add-ons + £5M unrealistic ones.
All good pal - after a while the figures definitely blend together haha
Mount won’t go to Bayern, just like Rice was never going there.
And I believe Mount has seen enough managers at Chelsea to know how quickly a manager change can happen at a club like Chelsea or Bayern. He won’t sign a long term contract with a foreign club just because Tuchel is there.
It could be toxic, but honestly given his track record I'd expect Mount to maintain a high level of professionalism the way he's always done. And who knows, he may take to Poch's system like a duck to water and extend his contract - which would be delightful.
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I dont see it happening. Bayern aren’t a sure fire thing in terms of Mount regaining an England squad place and Tuchel isn’t a big enough appeal on his own.
I don’t get how Caicedo could even be Mount alternative when they are so different. We are either bluffing or simply don’t have any real plan how to build this team.
I can totally see a "save face" sort of deal happening... Either 1/2milllion more or a 52m+3m or something like that.
We really shouldn't offer them a single quid more. £50m+5m is a more than fair offer for a player like Mount with one year left on his contract, and who wants to leave. There was no sensible reason for them to reject it other than they got greedy.
Tell that lardy American cnut to stick his offer of negotiations up his arse, and move on to other targets. If possible, sign Mount for free in January.
Tell that lardy American cnut to stick his offer of negotiations up his arse, and move on to other targets. If possible, sign Mount for free in January.
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