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Definitely sounds like we’re after both, wanted to get the Mount deal over the line whilst monitoring the Caicedo situation & pouncing when needs be.
All this focus on a GK (Onana) 2 mids (Mount/Caicedo) says to me we’re waiting for Kane? Maybe?
All this focus on a GK (Onana) 2 mids (Mount/Caicedo) says to me we’re waiting for Kane? Maybe?
Ziyech didn't play much, around 10 games worth of minutes the whole season and he wasn't in the last year of his contract.
Mount is a better player though but there's a big chance Poch won't have him in his plans because he won't be there long term.
Reminds me a lot of De Bruyne. Could be a real revelation in the PL if he develops as he can. Has the physique to go with the technique too.
Negotiation tactics. Not remotely the same type of midfielder. Both would make more sense but we have more urgent needs..
I’m most likely wrong, but genuinely think we’re in for both
Caicedo now, Mount next season and we have an absolutely incredible midfield.
ST and GK? Someone comes back and someone signs a new deal. Next!
That's quite the u-turn
There's going to plenty of similar U-turns if he does move I feel!
I completely agree. Fred and DVB leaving mean we’re surely after two midfielders and if we aren’t getting Kane and going for a younger profile then I think rashford will play up top a lot - mount can also cover wide.
Something is going on because we were supposed to be getting a striker first but seemingly we’re getting the GK wrapped up (v.strong links to Onana as far as submitting a bid) Mount & Caicedo.
Maybe we’re waiting on Kane until end of the window or him to put in a transfer request.
Eh, maybe I’m living in a pipe dream but something’s cooking at United!
Keep reading that we can always get Mount for free next summer. That's maybe the case.
But there must also be a chance that, with a new manager and, likely, a better season for Chelsea then, if Mount is getting game time for them, I can see both sides reaching a resolution on a new contract during the course of the season.
Really don't think we can just assume that if we don't sign Mount this summer, then we can just freeze his situation with Chelsea and take him on a free next summer. A lot can happen at their end in 12 months. Our (only) chance to take advantage of the contract situation might prove to be this summer, when we can get him for a cheaper (but not cheap) price. Ideally, we can get him free next summer. But just as likely he'll have signed a new deal by then and we've missed our chance - or others come in for him on a free and he opts to move elsewhere.
Lots of scenarios of course. But the one whereby we buy an alternative midfielder this summer, and get Mount for free next summer, is only an 'ideal scenario' - not in any way guaranteed to work like that and would be a big gamble to take if ETH really wants Mount.
But there must also be a chance that, with a new manager and, likely, a better season for Chelsea then, if Mount is getting game time for them, I can see both sides reaching a resolution on a new contract during the course of the season.
Really don't think we can just assume that if we don't sign Mount this summer, then we can just freeze his situation with Chelsea and take him on a free next summer. A lot can happen at their end in 12 months. Our (only) chance to take advantage of the contract situation might prove to be this summer, when we can get him for a cheaper (but not cheap) price. Ideally, we can get him free next summer. But just as likely he'll have signed a new deal by then and we've missed our chance - or others come in for him on a free and he opts to move elsewhere.
Lots of scenarios of course. But the one whereby we buy an alternative midfielder this summer, and get Mount for free next summer, is only an 'ideal scenario' - not in any way guaranteed to work like that and would be a big gamble to take if ETH really wants Mount.
Hey, even Chelsea aren’t saying 70.
We aren't buying two midfielders, this is like last summer when some thought we were getting both Antony and Gakpo.
Given the opportunity, I think we’d have gone in for him this Summer. But VVD twisted his ear and off he skipped to Liverpool
When you have a monster no.10 like Fernandes, you can afford it. A 4231 with Casemiro Caciedo as the midfield two is basically a juiced version of Ole’s McFred with Fernandes ahead. Let him worry about creating and getting in behind. He put 18 goals and 12 assists up in 2020/21 season.
Or that summer where we went and bought Nani and Anderson.
He was my ideal Mount replacement. He’s fantastic.
Caicedo would be fecking awesome...but I fear we will be priced out of that and it's all just a media briefing.
I think with casemiro ability to carry the ball further up and also create chances it gives him more freedom but also the two of them stops our midfield from being over run like it has in so many games last seasons.
Instead breaking down more play in midfield and with our speed on the LW and threat up front it creates a pretty good shape. The fullbacks have more freedom forward, with Shaw sometimes dropping inwards and creating a chance for the front line.
Idk, for me I would prefer it. But then again you’re right - we held city to one shot without two strong dms (although Casemiros strength of pushing forward and Caicedo- his strengths ) i think it’s a shape we lack when we go away and get battered like we did against a couple teams
Mount might sign a new contract by next summer if Poch manages the turnaround. But there is also the chance to get him in Jan for 20m
In modern football most teams have 5 players pushing forward being constant goal/assist threats. Liverpool at their peak: Robertson, Mane, Firmino, Salah, Arnold. City. Grealish, Gundogan, Haaland, De bruyne, B. Silva. Conte Chelsea: Alonso, Hazard, Costa, Pedro, Moses.
If you insert Caicedo in place of Eriksen we'll have Bruno and the front three only. As non of our fullbacks can really produce offensively enough. Maybe Shaw at a stretch if he's since he'll be well covered and will be instructed to do so.
I do like Caicedo as a player a lot though.
Mount is not a must have though.
The same way Casemiro isn't the same type of player as De Jong.
On principle, we have to hold firm. Chelsea sold Kovacic for less than half the sum they are asking for and are selling Harvetz for the same price when he has two years left. It's clear they see us as mugs.
If he should play in Eriksens position, he is
That's quite the u-turn
Let's fecking goo
100% time to move on and find someone better, even if he costs more and isn't English.
United trying to play the cheap game for Mount, when we should be focusing on better in form players to enhance the quality overall, not become the squad replacement for MCFred
United trying to play the cheap game for Mount, when we should be focusing on better in form players to enhance the quality overall, not become the squad replacement for MCFred
I think that's pretty well handled to be honest. Negotiated with a ceiling in mind, hit the ceiling and left it on the table in case the other party changes their mind. Seems entirely reasonable.
Oh myThat's quite the u-turn
Mount is miles clear of both Fred and McTominay,
I haven't seen any mounting evidence yet this will happen.
It frankly feels a bit like an up mountain battle.
There appears to be an insurmountable difference between what Chelsea wants and what we want to pay.
But it's paramount we hold strong in this negotiation.
He is not worth any amount.
Surely there is someone else tantamount to him we could get for less.
It frankly feels a bit like an up mountain battle.
There appears to be an insurmountable difference between what Chelsea wants and what we want to pay.
But it's paramount we hold strong in this negotiation.
He is not worth any amount.
Surely there is someone else tantamount to him we could get for less.
Well hopefully we will get a striker and Bruno counts as 'two' attackers with both his pros (insane creation production) and cons (he's essentially a second striker at times and does not really help with control). Therefore, a defensive line of Varane + Martinez and then Casemiro + Caicedo gives PLENTY of room for Shaw and AWB/Dalot to push forward.
Really surprised there is no links to this guy. I think he can do a lot of the things Mount can, with the addition of a rocket of a shot, and probably better with the ball as well.
Bayern Munich now after Mount? They've become a joke.
battle of the briefsChelsea now looking to save face by selling him to Bayern for a lower fee?
Like others have said most likely the links to Caicedo are a negotiation tactic for Mount
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