Mason Mount | Confirmed

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MUFC OK said:
The homegrown quota is defo a factor though, especially if we are shipping tianzebe, jones, Williams, Maguire, elanga. It does seem that Mount is the profile that ETH wants. Easy to forget how good he was for Chelsea and I think that at around 50-55 this is an okay signing for us. Wouldn’t have been my choice but I’m fine with it. Problem is how much of our budget this takes up. First team players for top 4 clubs are at least 60m, just have no idea how we will spend our funds.
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What’s taking so long on shipping people out?

Let’s be honest, we gotta replace McTominay and Donny first, we should sign two other midfielders and get mason on a free next year.
sullydnl said:
I'd be surprised if Caicedo is who we turn to if we don't get Mount. They're wildly different players, would require completely different tactical set ups and if we were that flexible about the type of #8 we wanted it would be odd not to prefer Caicedo from the start given he's a bigger talent.

It's more likely that we'd move on to some other player in the same attacking #8 mold as Mount, I would think.
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That’s true.. but Ten Hag seems to flex to what he has as opposed to a system - if I’m not mistaken.

Casemiro and caicedo and Martinez and Varane or a new cb just seems so hard to break down. I’d be so happy with a core like that and let Rashford, Bruno and the new striker do their thing
 
'Mount ideally never wanted to leave'

Nah he just turned down 3 contract offers for the hell of it. What a cretinous journo.

Walk away, offer him a big signing bonus if he wants to come to United next summer. Move on this summer.
 
Halftrack said:
Could be that EtH preferred a 6 and two 8s, but sees two 6s and an 8, and allowing Case to get forward more, as an acceptable alternative.

Could also be a tactic to put pressure on Chelsea by going after their target.

Or it could be bollocks.
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Yea I'm also assuming this is option B. I think Casemiro has the skillset to play a more box to box role. I have a bit less idea of how adept Caicedo could be in a more offensive role.
 
“Manchester United pull out of race for Caicedo to sign Andre Onana”
 
I wonder if EtH was planning to spend big on one midfield role and go cheaper or youth with the other.
Or we might just be being spiteful and trying to drive up the Caicedo price for Chelsea - which would be awesome
 
Honestly, even if we still do eventually get Mount at this point, i’m glad we’re acting like a proper big club for a change and calling Chelsea’s public bluff. Almost even better if we steal their main midfield target

In some ways we’ve played this well because either Chelsea cave and we compromise or we enter the race against them for Caicedo, i don’t think we come out of it looking bad unless we cave and pay the 65 Chelsea want but that looks like it isn’t happening
 
We have the backbone of a jellyfish, we will be back with a 4th bid
 
Will massively improve my opinion of Murtough and Co. if true. Opposite if not.
 
mu4c_20le said:


rolling on the floor stuff innit
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Briefs coming in from all side at the same time. Unfortunately I actually don’t believe United have walked away from this and I think will get hashed out eventually.
 
Hopefully, this is true but I kind of feel bad for Mount especially if he doesn't sign a new contract. He'll barely feature next season for Chelsea and will lose his place for England next year at the Euros.
 
El-Manos said:
Caicedo is a completely different player though…
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Yep. The only similar sort of midfielder to Mount that we were linked to was the Turkish guy at Feyenoord, but he’s gone to Benfica.
 
WeePat said:
Briefs coming in from all side at the same time. Unfortunately I actually don’t believe United have walked away from this and I think will get hashed out eventually.
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True, but one minor detail. Its Boehly/Eggy running the show now, and we're not the Saudis. I wouldn't be surprised if you really did piss us off during the negotiations.
 
I still think this gets done, but I hope we just get him in a free in a year. Get caicedo now, get him on a free in a year and the midfield is golden
 
So we're walking away, but backwards... Just in case... Who knows? But clearly theres a briefing battle going on...
 
TheRedHearted said:
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That’s true.. but Ten Hag seems to flex to what he has as opposed to a system - if I’m not mistaken.

Casemiro and caicedo and Martinez and Varane or a new cb just seems so hard to break down. I’d be so happy with a core like that and let Rashford, Bruno and the new striker do their thing
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If you sign a DM monster like Casemiro, I don't think you ideally pair him with someone as defensive as Caicedo. For all I like Caicedo generally, that seems an overly cautious set-up to me. But what do I know.

I guess it's possible that ETH really is that flexible. But I also guess it's possible that leaving the deal on the table for Mount while threatening to sign Chelsea's own midfield target instead is a negotiating tactic. Christ knows, really.
 
I agree with the board on this: 70M for a player with 1 year left is Over the top. Plenty of fish on the ocean
 
I like Mount and I think he'd be a good signing. I also think £55M is the most we should be paying. I don't see how Chelsea can keep him, given that he's so clearly wanting to come here and it's quite refreshing to see the club not just caving to demands. Assuming that's what happens of course.

Whoever we get, we've just got to get some more creativity into the team. We're desperately lacking.
 
I think we’ll sign Mount still despite the interest in Caicedo. You don’t turn down 3 contracts at your parent club & practically beg the buying club to buy you if you want to stay.

Would not surprise me in the slightest if we want both Mount and Caicedo and was tying up the seemingly easier transfer before moving on to Caicedo.
 
UnitedSofa said:
I think we’ll sign Mount still despite the interest in Caicedo. You don’t turn down 3 contracts at your parent club & practically beg the buying club to buy you if you want to stay.

Would not surprise me in the slightest if we want both Mount and Caicedo and was tying up the seemingly easier transfer before moving on to Caicedo.
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And next will buy Kane, Hojlund, KMJ and it will be done before we go on tour.

Edit: forgot both Onanas as well.
 
sullydnl said:
If you sign a DM monster like Casemiro, I don't think you ideally pair him with someone as defensive as Caicedo. For all I like Caicedo generally, that seems an overly cautious set-up to me. But what do I know.

I guess it's possible that ETH really is that flexible. But I also guess it's possible that leaving the deal on the table for Mount while threatening to sign Chelsea's own midfield target instead is a negotiating tactic. Christ knows, really.
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More than one way to skin a cat tbf. A more solid midfield base means, we use the full backs far more aggressively than we do now.
 
It's hard to know which tweets / pieces of leaked information are true. But if Mount really did want to come so much, and we really were that close to agreeing a fee (55m v 65m), then I'm not sure about dropping the deal in order to bid even more for Caicedo - who may end up choosing elsewhere anyway.

I rate both Mount and Caicedo, but if Mount was the first choice then I'd have preferred we get him for around £60m rather than pay, what, £80-100m for Caicedo? Yes, Chelsea should have been prepared to accept lower than £60m for Mount due to his contract issue - but it's only because of that contract issue that we'd be getting him for that price in the first place, or that they'd even be willing to sell / Mount looking to leave.

So I'd rather we took advantage of the contract ending and got Mount sorted early for £60m rather than get into a protracted bidding war with clubs over Caicedo and, likely, have to pay a good amount more than £60m for him.

Not necessarily based on ability, as I rate them both. But Mount was available now, and willing to come. And cheaper. Caicedo will be more expensive if we did manage to get him, and will drag on for ages and I imagine he'll probably end up at a London club anyway.
 
WeePat said:
Briefs coming in from all side at the same time. Unfortunately I actually don’t believe United have walked away from this and I think will get hashed out eventually.
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Yeah it's definitely just telling Chelsea that we aren't going higher and if they are rejecting it, then we will wait for getting him on a free. I think Chelsea comes back down to accept it, but if not then I do think United will bid for others and just get mount in a year.
 
simonhch said:
I love people posting speculation as if it’s fact. All clubs think we’re a soft touch. Mount isn’t worth the money. Etc etc. okay. In your opinion. But none of that is factual. In my opinion, just opinion…..not a fact…..Mount would be a fantastic signing and is worth every penny we end up spending on him if it’s in that 55-65m range.
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You're absolutely right when it comes to our opinion. That's why it's my opinion to feel relieved and even thankful towards Chelsea. They can their unhappy average player
 
Whether the story is true or false...I feel United should push the story of not paying a 'United Tax' it would help with any other ongoing negotiations.
 
Going from Mount to Caicedo is a hilarious upgrade, Caicedo should have been our main target in the first place. Chelsea will have serious egg on their face if we end up with Caicedo and they're stuck with an unhappy Mount who'll just leave for free next year.
 
Blood Mage said:
Going from Mount to Caicedo is a hilarious upgrade, Caicedo should have been our main target in the first place. Chelsea will have serious egg on their face if we end up with Caicedo and they're stuck with an unhappy Mount who'll just leave for free next year.
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OMG that would be utterly glorious
 
Wouldn’t mind seeing us get involved for Szoboslai of not Mount. Not too dissimilar in profile and a huge talent.
 
WeePat said:
Briefs coming in from all side at the same time. Unfortunately I actually don’t believe United have walked away from this and I think will get hashed out eventually.
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Don't disagree, even if we have walked away at 50 +5. It's still too much, I don't buy any half way competent club would offer more than 40 for him given his contract situ and the fact no one else is in for him
 
Idxomer said:
Hopefully, this is true but I kind of feel bad for Mount especially if he doesn't sign a new contract. He'll barely feature next season for Chelsea and will lose his place for England next year at the Euros.
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Why would he barely feature ? We're told he's that good, they should still use him right ? They kept playing Ziyech was on the verge of joining PSG last winter break. Mount wouldn't be the first nor last player to play for his club when his desired transfer didn't go through
 
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