I feel like this midfield would get torn to shreds defensively by the other top teams. Could work very well in matches where you have all of the ball and are dictating the run of play. But playing against a top side that excells at counter attacking with Mount and Bruno in there seems super risky.
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I feel like this midfield would get torn to shreds defensively by the other top teams. Could work very well in matches where you have all of the ball and are dictating the run of play. But playing against a top side that excells at counter attacking with Mount and Bruno in there seems super risky.
Verratti would be playing next to Casemiro, not replace him. Similar to Frenkie de Jong.
And that's what EtH deviated away from towards the back end of the season, which is why we'd be a little bit more open than usual. When struggling to get goals, needed to push forward and trust the shape off the ball at the back or in transition is compact, which for the most part it was.
Having 2 sitting 6s in a team that struggles to manufacture goal scoring chances outside of Bruno just doubles down on the good defensive principles and shape United have. United don't need some like him to sit next to or play next to Casemiro, when the defending shape and principles don't need that.
If United could have closed the deal with FdJ, he'd be ideal and be great as a 6/8. With Mount, he'd be impactful as an 8/10.
I'm happy for Chelsea to price us out of this one. He isn't good enough.
Does your brain only work in two modes - players are either good or shite?
Maguire can’t be at the level of a guaranteed starter for a good England team and someone who has shown can be a starter for an Europa league level team.
bizarre comment. Of course he’s good enough. Most chelsea fans think he’d be a massive coup for us and Chelsea obviously aren’t keen on selling him.
Never understood this nonsense that he isn’t a good enough player.
I think it could be okay. It's not as if there is no defensive presence. I think Mount's extra energy compared to Eriksen will probably mean Casemiro is less engaged up the pitch than he was last season and may be able to do more of his actual job in front of the defence. Last season we got very stretched because Eriksen and Casemiro had to cover gaps they weren't physically capable of having supported the attack, I think it takes some of the emphasis off Casemiro doing that.
I actually think that midfield has more graft and running power than last season even if it's not full of defensive nous. A lot of defensive structure now is more about pressing and work-rate, cutting off passing lanes.
It's a bit risky but not extraordinarily so if our structure and gameplan are good. I'd be more worried about retaining possession than defence.
This just isn't true
Not a quick respons this time. This will be done 
I think you might be right but I'm worried about how much creativity it takes away by pushing Bruno deeper. Mount isn't capable of creating half the chances Bruno does. As well as Bruno has played as a cm we really need him playing the final ball to whoever our striker is.
Who is?
Moises.
You got a spare 80-85M?
Could Mount turn into a FDJ type and make all EtH's dream come true.
Probably not! but it raises questions as to where he is going to play for United...most likely the obvious answer is Mount will just replace Fred/Sabitzer in the squad.
Probably not! but it raises questions as to where he is going to play for United...most likely the obvious answer is Mount will just replace Fred/Sabitzer in the squad.
Not that I disagree, I really like him myself. But don't you think it's a bit reckless to pay £100m for a player who had one good season in PL playing for an organised Brighton team with a clear game plan? Even Bissouma looked impressive, and look at him now.
Mount is almost half his price, and Caicedo doesn't even offer attacking threat. Mount does, and I assume you want us to be an attacking team?
Don't think Silva would have gone to City back then if United were in for him.
Whereas now it would be different if they didn't hold us in higher regard from the Fergie years. Mount is turning down Klopp's Liverpool and Arteta's Arsenal to join us according to Ornstein, it is not a coincidence he has talked in awe about watching Ronaldo at United whilst growing up.
Caicedo is wildy over priced I agree. Worth about 60 million.
This midfield doesn't look defensively any weaker than our best midfield last season when we had Eriksen instead of Mount. Mount and Bruno are both hard pressers and runners.
Also I think our FBs and even CBs (Martinez!) are supposed to occupy central midfield positions on the occasion, to lessen the burden of the sole 6. EtH will make this midfield work.
I don’t get the naysayers on this one.
We spent 50m on Fred and 40m on DvB… Neither was PL proven. Neither won a CL. Mount was Chelsea Player of the Year a couple times. He can play deep, he can play the 10. The trio of Kante, Jorginho and Mount was legitimately excellent and brought them the CL title. Who would you rather have? People are mentioning Barella…? Who isn’t available and more expensive? Caicedo at 70m who plays a different position and isn’t CL proven?
‘I think we’re all going to have to agree that every signing has an element of risk. Trusting Ten Hag to buy a player he rates and fits his system seems smart.
We spent 50m on Fred and 40m on DvB… Neither was PL proven. Neither won a CL. Mount was Chelsea Player of the Year a couple times. He can play deep, he can play the 10. The trio of Kante, Jorginho and Mount was legitimately excellent and brought them the CL title. Who would you rather have? People are mentioning Barella…? Who isn’t available and more expensive? Caicedo at 70m who plays a different position and isn’t CL proven?
‘I think we’re all going to have to agree that every signing has an element of risk. Trusting Ten Hag to buy a player he rates and fits his system seems smart.
We are not purchasing that version of Mount, we are purchasing the one coming off a pretty bad season, and I am not a fan of buying players off a bad season, it hasn't went well in the past.
IF (big one at that) Barella is still on the market in January or next summer and new owners sorted I could see us going for him
He would be max £40m more than Mount. Realistically probably £30m more
That's why I would like to see someone like Rabiot come in who can partner Casa in the games against the top sides
Yeah let’s just forgot the 55£m before hand.
Key difference is that typically those players you mention are the lkes of Sanchez who are aging and have begun a permanent decline. Mount is more like Rashford in 21/22, a very good player suffering a poor season due to injury and being part of a lousy team and so just like Rashford a bounceback season under a new manager who believes in him is highly probable.
Yeah that's a very valid point and he will know last season was awful. He comes here with a point to prove and Erik scouted him when on loan at Vitesse too so would know his game.
I've said previously that I'm of the opinion we will play with two tens rather than an eight and a ten. In order to progress the play and to have an option I think we will take advantage of the fact that Martinez can step up into the midfield with his fantastic passing range and ability to beat a press. Varane being rapid can hold off counterattacks and Shaw has been coming into the middle of the defense more the last few games of the season which will give us stability defensively. Mount will also help out wide as he likes to drift outside from what I've seen (don't have any stats on this though), as well as Bruno finding himself on the right often giving us width and numerical advantages. Dalot also comes inside a lot which will also provide balance and stability as well as helping progress play.
Nope. On to the next target
That’s really nice of Chelsea offering to meet. Tell them to feck off.
Please walk away for once...
65 mill for 1 year left in contract they are absolutely shameless. Walk away, don’t meet in person, let Mount be pissed at them and sign him for free next season
65m is fecking loads. Move on.
Telling United, let's sort this out over some tea and biscuits, the cheek of them
What’s this in person shit? Some back hand deal being presented?
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Leave the final offer on the table for another week and walk away. Earn some of our credibility back after the Antony farce.
Thought the third offer was a final offer?
They’re asking stupid money for a player soon out of contract who isn’t even good
I wish United had the bollocks to leave this now, but we all know that United will cave to Chelsea’s demands
They’re asking stupid money for a player soon out of contract who isn’t even good
I wish United had the bollocks to leave this now, but we all know that United will cave to Chelsea’s demands
Meet in person? That has to be garbage. Yeah we won't take it but can we talk it over at high tea? Meet you there sweetie!!
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