It doesnt, but it should be a huge factor that takes off most of the value of the transfer with the prospect of getting nothing a season later. If someone at their best is worth £60 million for example, you shouldnt be paying £50 million with a year left on their contract. Usually it would be more like half.
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It doesnt, but it should be a huge factor that takes off most of the value of the transfer with the prospect of getting nothing a season later. If someone at their best is worth £60 million for example, you shouldnt be paying £50 million with a year left on their contract. Usually it would be more like half.
I thought you was mateI am one of those bigging up and you knew it.. You get a player that will give you 7/10 in most matches when he steps into the pitch. Between you and arsenal you got the better deal in my opinion.
Reckon arsenal might get more out of Havertz depending on how they use him. What about between us and city?I like the idea of signing a player with very good close control and work rate. Clearly why Ten Hag wants him. We need a deeper player to do that also though. I couldn’t predict what our midfield 3 will be next year if we get him.
Slighty different, a lot of us didn't want some racist scumbag leading our line.
The first choice trio will almost certainly be Casemiro, Mount and Bruno. Mount will simply be replacing Eriksen.
Ten Hag also wanted Gakpo and was responsible for pushing for Antony at 85m, when our scouts wanted to walk away at 60.
The whole 2nd half of the season we were building more and more to a single pivot with two #8's in front, whether it was Eriksen or Fred, they basically played right alongside Bruno just in the other side of the pitch. Pretty clear he'd just slot in for Fred or Eriksen.
If this is true I hope we never listen to ETHs demands again! Naah only joking, hopefully Antony will become that player Ten Hag hopes for.
And?
The stated budget isn't even correct, but okay.
And you think Verratti would be a good signing for United when he wouldn't be, it's the wrong position. And Barella and Mount have had similar output in their respective leagues, yet Mount is 2 years younger.
Barella has 22 goals and 44 assists (66 g/a) in 187 matches (g/a per 2.83 matches) with Inter. Mount has 33 goals and 37 assists (70 g/a) in 195 matches (g/a per 2.78 matches).
City have luxury to use Kovasic sparingly. He got some recurrent injury problems in past two seasons.I thought you was mate
Of course kova on his day unplayable but those days were not frequent in recent times for us. In mount you got minimum sixyears of fantastic service from him. With his age and what he can capable you fairly got better deal long term.
You will clearly see when he play for you your team will improve considerably well with him than without him. I just like him sad his stint with us come to end so soon.
You want more?
You say this as if wanting Gakpo was a bad thing..? You realise Liverpool bought him because he's a good player right
Barella is a box to box CM, Mount is not. And yes, a fit Verratti is exactly what we would need to keep some control in midfield, which we lack in most games for large periods.
The idea that he might be coming to be an 8 is what has a lot of us concerned. It's not about his performances as a 10 but what he could be if he really is coming to be an 8. It can't be ignored that he has no pedigree as a deep midfielder.
They also went on to make some of us sweat and think we wouldn’t make top 4 after their season improved with him.
I would rather have Mount for £55m than Havertz for free. Don’t rate Havertz at all.
Barella is also going to cost around £85m.
Which I'm guessing is based on the ridiculous price being quoted (in relation to the rumours of budget constraints) and not because they're hoping the manager fails to get his target/ improve the team. Yeah, not everyone is a top red cheering on everything thoughtlessly.
I would rather 85m for Barella, and Mount next summer for free.
Sure, I'm bored.
Sorry to be the guy to bring you bad news. But I’d rather a GK,CF,Mount,CM. Than just Barella and a CF.
Lampard 1.0 played him there sometimes but honestly he was shoved all over the place by most managers.
Its one of those situations where you start to think you are insane for pointing out the obvious. If it's true Mount is coming to be an 8 I would rather have players who are tried and tested in those roles, not an experiment.
As I said before the more likely outcome is that we end up with 2 good number 10s and we have to play one of them wide once it gets clear that Mount isn't an 8.
Personally I'm far more of a supporter of the Director of Football approach towards signings, as I think people whose expertise is specifically scouting players to fit what a manager needs are normally more successful than when a manager simply decides the exact player to go for himself. I feel the same with ETH as while Martinez and Casemiro were big successes, all our other signings so far have at least some question marks, so that really hasn't changed my mind. I don't really believe Mount is going to improve us enough to justify the spend when our biggest priority is clearly getting a world class striker, and a number 8 (which I'm not really convinced Mount can play effectively at this stage), rb, gk and cb should all be higher priorities imo.
Is he? Yet to see him do anything special. Antony will also come good and he’s younger. We needed a natural RW. We don’t need a left sided player which is what Gakpo is and if we was planning on playing him up front then he isn’t the ST we need.
Mount would have racked up a lot more assists if Chelsea actually had a striker that could score goals. Similar to Bruno with us.
I think it's more likely Bruno becomes the 8, he played there during the season quite effectively and actually was more inconsistent at 10.
No, masochist.
Verratti isn't what United need, need a larger balance off the ball in a central midfield 2 and going forward as part of a more advanced midfielder. EtH is all about positional play and there's more than enough matches and flexibility for Mount to start as part of a midfield.
Mount has the flexibility and skill to thrive in position based system, of which that's what EtH promotes.
Nailed? No secret it’s a dire use of funds on a very middling player; we’re not a club with throwaway funds, which makes it even worse.
You never know, EtH might actually have thought the whole thing through.
There were a lot of stories about how meticulous he is at all levels, including recruitment and player development. I don’t think he takes a blind punt.
Tease!
I think it was exactly the same with Casemiro and Varane, they still remember watching in awe of us as Fergie's Manchester United from when they were teenagers.
Time to unzip?
He's not even a realistic option but Verratti would be perfectly fine and more than suited to play that no.8 role, he'd fit that role much better than Mount.
He's not a realistic option and incredibly injury prone anyway but if he was a realistic option, he'd be an even better fit and much better CM in general too.
People are assuming Mount will play deep, but I believe Bruno will replace Eriksen's role, with Mount playing silightly higher, being tasked with more the running in behind, getting into the box, etc.
If we look at Bruno's performances from a deeper 8 position last season, in my opinion, it's the best i've seen him play.
Whilst he hasn't the progressive carries of someone like De Jong, he has the ability to drop into the back three, where he can use his passing range and vision to progress us up the pitch in no time.
Below is a short clip of Bruno vs Everton away last season, where he played next to McTominay, with Sabitzer slightly ahead. His passing numbers were ridiculously good, and ten Hag constantly identified how well Bruno did slightly deeper.
If we look at Bruno's performances from a deeper 8 position last season, in my opinion, it's the best i've seen him play.
Whilst he hasn't the progressive carries of someone like De Jong, he has the ability to drop into the back three, where he can use his passing range and vision to progress us up the pitch in no time.
Below is a short clip of Bruno vs Everton away last season, where he played next to McTominay, with Sabitzer slightly ahead. His passing numbers were ridiculously good, and ten Hag constantly identified how well Bruno did slightly deeper.
I generally unzip before I mount
Or maybe we offer good wages, play in one of the most iconic stadium in football, playing in the most glamorous league in football, with a massive fan base. United is never loosing it appeal to top players not until they loose this qualities. It doesn't matter if the player saw SAF united or not. Who did D.Silva saw that attracted him to City.
As a 30 year old in the here and now, he wouldn't be a better option for what EtH and team is trying to build. He's never going to get ahead of Casemiro. That poster thinks Veratti would be better than Mount and that's not the case.
United shifted towards a 6 (Casemiro) and 8/10s (Eriksen/Bruno), who are focsued on the left and right channel with a lot of responsibility in the middle of the pitch, but also positionally aware. EtH places a large importance in positional play, which is where Mount thrived under Tuchel and at Chelsea.
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