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I'm not his biggest fan , but watching the game today, one thing we lacked in midfield in abundance was mobility. Eriksen has stacks of ability but he can barely move anymore. Fred covers a lot of ground but he's very sluggish off the mark and on the half turn. Mount definitely adds a lot of what we're missing, even if the signing doesn't particularly excite me. My only concern is the English tax that will most likely be tacked on to his fee.
I agree and no one has looked good at Chelsea this season so his form could improve dramatically very quickly.
I wouldn't pay attention to Mount's performances this season. A lot of new players, new managers - it's a mess at Chelsea, just as it was when Rashford has a poor season.
Get him under ten Hag, and we'll see a player that understands his role down to a tee, both on and off the ball.
He was their player of the year in a CL winning season though?
He also assisted their goal in the final if I remember correctly. I don’t see how you can question his mentality.
Yeah. I'm not 100% sold on him being what we need the most, but I have every reason to trust EtH. If he wants Mount he surely sees him as a player who can improve us.
Yeah. Not to mention he's a work horse, never give up attitude, doesn't go hiding in games ... Don't understand what people watch sometimes.
Seeing how slow we were in the middle of the park concerned me, I understand the heat but Eriksen was pretty much non existent and even Casemiro looked sluggish. Mount would help with energy and willingness to put in a shift
Can't wait to see him leisurely jog around the pitch like the rest of our players. 
I’ve never been his biggest fan but if Ten Hag wants him, then I’m more than happy to have him. He’s done enough to have my implicit trust.
Well the reason why people are against this signing and this match has further provided evidence of the same is that, we need to have a better version of Eriksen, somebody whose even better on the ball and off the ball can press and physically dominate.
That's why Caicedo or Rice is a far better option if we are spending significant amount. I would rather Rabiot and Caicedo/Rice as compared to spending 50/60M on him, which will take us no closer to City/Bayern/Madrid.
I don't understand Ten Hag here, all the best teams the Barca (Iniesta, Xavi and Biscuit) or the Bayern Schwini, Kroos and Martinez or Madrid (Casemiro, Modric and Kroos), all have one thing common, One DM, one CM who can control and one AM or three midfielders who can actually pass and control football and equally defend.
Whereas we are moving towards players like Bruno and Mount, who don't control the matches or set the tempo, neither are physically dominating or contribute defensively. My concern is we will continue to be overrun in away matches next season and would be discussing the same issue next season.
That's why Caicedo or Rice is a far better option if we are spending significant amount. I would rather Rabiot and Caicedo/Rice as compared to spending 50/60M on him, which will take us no closer to City/Bayern/Madrid.
I don't understand Ten Hag here, all the best teams the Barca (Iniesta, Xavi and Biscuit) or the Bayern Schwini, Kroos and Martinez or Madrid (Casemiro, Modric and Kroos), all have one thing common, One DM, one CM who can control and one AM or three midfielders who can actually pass and control football and equally defend.
Whereas we are moving towards players like Bruno and Mount, who don't control the matches or set the tempo, neither are physically dominating or contribute defensively. My concern is we will continue to be overrun in away matches next season and would be discussing the same issue next season.
If we also sign Rabiot on a free it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up starting a lot alongside Casemiro next year, particularly in more challenging games.
Mount playing the easier games alongside Casemiro, and sometimes playing Bruno's position when he needs rotating.
My concern is we definitely need 2 midfielders, not just Mount.
Can't wait to see him leisurely jog around the pitch like the rest of our players.
This didn't happen today at all. Can't get my head around this opinion.
Mount also has very good pressing and defensive stats.
This, if we sign him then we should forget about games control in tough games. His profile doesn't compliment our main midfield players. Unless we want to improve our strength of playing in transition.
He is not worth more than £40m but Chelsea want £70m. We walk.away. There are better options
His England performances have been beyond poor. Genuinely shocking. Complete inability to impact a game. Definitely don't be looking at any of them if you want to get excited about this one.
I felt like he should have done a lot better within them and there wasn't a particularly convincing explanation for why he was quite so bad. "But Southgate" isn't a great one when the very same Southgate is probably one of the few managers in the world who would have backed him to the same extent. He had trust. Also other players managed to perform better than he did within the same structure.
I wish I could erase them from my memory, but when you've got that and a disappointing current season it does hurt the excitement somewhat.
I felt like he should have done a lot better within them and there wasn't a particularly convincing explanation for why he was quite so bad. "But Southgate" isn't a great one when the very same Southgate is probably one of the few managers in the world who would have backed him to the same extent. He had trust. Also other players managed to perform better than he did within the same structure.
I wish I could erase them from my memory, but when you've got that and a disappointing current season it does hurt the excitement somewhat.
Can we call him Jason? His first name triggers me.
Think he’ll be an upgrade on Eriksen looking at todays game.
He couldn’t get into Chelsea’s midfield, and they finished 12th.
Given our need elsewhere, and our alleged limited budget this summer then I'll beleive it when I see it, until then it isn't happening.
When he could they won trophies and qualified for Champions League.
Mount is seriously underrated on this forum. Great player.
You must have missed City constantly overrunning our midfield and Eriksen struggling to catch up with their players. He was a liability out there today and should be a squad player next season.
Would he make city's bench?
Kalvin Phillips does.
He was injured for almost three months
Kovacic played 3 games more and he’s off to City
I just don't see how Mount addresses what we saw today.
If you think our problem is that Eriksen runs out of gas after an hour, Mount looks like a possible solution. However, if you worry that even at his best Eriksen couldn't stand up to tall feckers like DeBruyne and Rodri...
Mount, to me, is just the wrong profile of player. Our scouts had it right when they were after Camavinga etc. Mount will get bullied just like Eriksen.
Given what we need to go forward, I think moving for Mount is a bit baffling. It's like we're trying to upgrade on what we've got, without asking ourselves whether what we've got is actually the right mix.
If you think our problem is that Eriksen runs out of gas after an hour, Mount looks like a possible solution. However, if you worry that even at his best Eriksen couldn't stand up to tall feckers like DeBruyne and Rodri...
Mount, to me, is just the wrong profile of player. Our scouts had it right when they were after Camavinga etc. Mount will get bullied just like Eriksen.
Given what we need to go forward, I think moving for Mount is a bit baffling. It's like we're trying to upgrade on what we've got, without asking ourselves whether what we've got is actually the right mix.
He started 70% of the matches he was available for this season.
Mount would easily get into today's team as a starter. And he's versatile which is invaluable. He'd play most games. The fee might be a problem though.
One of his major flaws as stated by Chelsea fans and plenty of analysts is that he goes hiding in games.
Adding Mount to our midfield will only add more chaos. I don’t understand how people think a player like Mount would help our midfield against teams like City, we had Fred, Eriksen, Bruno and Casemiro today in the midfield and we got overrun, couldn’t create shit.
It’s clear what we needed in midfield today, a player capable of evading pressure and making intelligent forward passes. Mount is not good at that.
It’s clear what we needed in midfield today, a player capable of evading pressure and making intelligent forward passes. Mount is not good at that.
Would he have improved our midfield today? That’s the question we should be asking. Mount cannot add more workrate than Fred, so his workrate which is mooted as one of his biggest strengths is quite useless if we don’t have midfielders capable of creating from the deep. Is Mount capable of doing that? I don’t think so. We desperately need a proper central midfielder who won’t lose possession easily and also can make quick incisive passes that hurts opponents or sets off our attack.
Yes you are right. But Mount is another player of similar profile but with better workrate. We tried clogging our midfield today with Fred and Eriksen and it didn’t work . For 60m and 200k week wages we need a guaranteed starter not a backup like Eriksen.
Looking at how little Eriksen or Sancho offered, why not? I'm not saying he is the complete answer but I think he would be ahead of a lot of the players who are already in the squad.
This is not that easy. Fred and Eriksen are very high level players and to significantly upgrade on them , well cost you 80-100 like Rice.
We are about to make another mistake, we need a different profile
What we need is obvious. Press resistant players. Mount is another lightweight.
If we sign him, we've learnt nothing. Another Kagawa, Mata, Mkhitaryan, Donny, Sancho, Eriksen.
If we sign him, we've learnt nothing. Another Kagawa, Mata, Mkhitaryan, Donny, Sancho, Eriksen.
We need proper midfield talent if we are to compete for titles, we don’t need workhorses. Our midfield is crying out for some creativity since the days of SAF, why do we continue to persist with adding workhorses and players with good workrate. Mount can run all he want but he is never going to transition our midfield.
I really can't get over this idea of us using Casemiro as the sole midfielder with Fernandes and Mount pushing up. It might be what Ten Hag wants but it seems fundamentally wrong. We've been screaming out for a bit of control in midfield for the majority of the season and now we're doubling down on the gung ho midfield with Mount in place of Eriksen. Not only that but we're going to have to pay stupid money for the privilege, with a player who will be out of contract next summer.
Even more frustrating when there are players like Caicedo and Ugarte who will be readily available this summer and we're seemingly ignoring them.
Even more frustrating when there are players like Caicedo and Ugarte who will be readily available this summer and we're seemingly ignoring them.
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