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Andycoleno9 said:
Seeing us vs City, Mount is not solution. We need playmaking classic central midfielder.
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Nah. We need way more energy in there so we don't retire Casemiro early. Mount and Bruno ahead of Casemiro where both can work their socks off and we become a top counter pressing side. He'd have made a massive difference today, though ultimately when your goalkeeper is gifts a goal to City and boots it to them every touch, you can't do much.
 
bosnian_red said:
Nah. We need way more energy in there so we don't retire Casemiro early. Mount and Bruno ahead of Casemiro where both can work their socks off and we become a top counter pressing side. He'd have made a massive difference today, though ultimately when your goalkeeper is gifts a goal to City and boots it to them every touch, you can't do much.
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IF we will play that system (4141) then Mount is great purchase. I would love to see that.
But IF Erik is buying him for mc role then we should buy someone other.
 
If we had Mount today, I think he would have played wide right/left and we could have moved Bruno to his best position.

He'll end up playing wide in a lopsided front three more often than we think if Sancho and Antony continue this form.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
IF we will play that system (4141) then Mount is great purchase. I would love to see that.
But IF Erik is buying him for mc role then we should buy someone other.
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We've been transitioning to more and more of using 2 roaming 8's ahead of Casemiro. At our best we've been a counter pressing side. Especially once Licha comes back in for the build up.
 
bosnian_red said:
We've been transitioning to more and more of using 2 roaming 8's ahead of Casemiro. At our best we've been a counter pressing side. Especially once Licha comes back in for the build up.
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Hm, ETH strikes me as a manager who will not change his system. I hope i am wrong. Laying with two advanced no8s would be great to watch.
 
bosnian_red said:
Nah. We need way more energy in there so we don't retire Casemiro early. Mount and Bruno ahead of Casemiro where both can work their socks off and we become a top counter pressing side. He'd have made a massive difference today, though ultimately when your goalkeeper is gifts a goal to City and boots it to them every touch, you can't do much.
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Mount will be an issue. If you play like City, then he would be fine. We dont. Stick Mount in midfield, and he would not be as good as you hope. He is too lightweight and not press resistant enough, compared to someone like FdJ. This is the type of player we need, not another player running around a lot but with no positional sense for a central midfielder and with no real playmaking skills (i.e. metronome and dictating tempo). He would be better than Eriksen, but we need someone behind Bruno and next to Casemiro with the magic touch. We basically/ideally need the closest thing to a prime Modric. Mount is not that, and it will show. He will just be another squad player that we overpaid for, and that we dont get full use of. We will have discussion on here wher ehe should play and next to whom, and what his best position is etc, without him performing as we all hope. He is not an 8.
 
izec said:
Mount will be an issue. If you play like City, then he would be fine. We dont. Stick Mount in midfield, and he would not be as good as you hope. He is too lightweight and not press resistant enough, compared to someone like FdJ. This is the type of player we need, not another player running around a lot but with no positional sense for a central midfielder and with no real playmaking skills (i.e. metronome and dictating tempo). He would be better than Eriksen, but we need someone behind Bruno and next to Casemiro with the magic touch. We basically/ideally need the closest thing to a prime Modric. Mount is not that, and it will show.
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Ideally yeah but those players are rare and none are obtainable, so we pivot to a counter pressing side with what we can do this summer. Mount fits that very well. I don't see an issue at all. He's more than capable of replacing eriksens on ball ability this season, while providing Fred's off ball ability. So I think he'll surprise a ton of people.
 
Chairman Steve said:
Put Mount where Eriksen was today and we’d have looked better. Eriksen is great for lesser teams who play low block and Mount would have been great for this type of game.
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Put Fernandes, in his favoured position, where Eriksen was today and we’d have looked better. With Mount in our side he would’ve/should’ve played in Fred’s position, who had a strong game.

Mount would’ve helped in that position over Eriksen no question, but the real concern is not playing your most creative player in his most natural position, I fear we’ll see more of it if we end up signing him and Rabiot.
 
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Yea start Garnacho today instead of Eriksen and we do much better. Eriksen was awful today, second best to everything.
 
izec said:
Mount will be an issue. If you play like City, then he would be fine. We dont. Stick Mount in midfield, and he would not be as good as you hope. He is too lightweight and not press resistant enough, compared to someone like FdJ. This is the type of player we need, not another player running around a lot but with no positional sense for a central midfielder and with no real playmaking skills (i.e. metronome and dictating tempo). He would be better than Eriksen, but we need someone behind Bruno and next to Casemiro with the magic touch. We basically/ideally need the closest thing to a prime Modric. Mount is not that, and it will show. He will just be another squad player that we overpaid for, and that we dont get full use of. We will have discussion on here wher ehe should play and next to whom, and what his best position is etc, without him performing as we all hope. He is not an 8.
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Fred is a shit pressed and dominated FDJ two legs.
 
izec said:
He is not doing it over a season most/every game. You need consistent control in midfield in a game when it matters if you want the big trophies, simple as that.
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But that’s De Jong for every Barca game in Europe that’s spanned many seasons now.
 
cyberman said:
But that’s De Jong for every Barca game in Europe that’s spanned many seasons now.
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Barca won the league title. Id be happy with that. He was one of their best and most consistent players this season. From someone they wanted to get rid of to an undisputed starter.
 
izec said:
Barca won the league title. Id be happy with that. He was one of their best and most consistent players this season. From someone they wanted to get rid of to an undisputed starter.
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But they get more time in Spain, more Tiki Taka as Casemiro said only a few days ago. As soon as the opposition quality rises he disappears and it’s hard to look past that. Not just that but Barca suffer annual humiliations in Europe when they’re completely overran.
EPL is a different, physical beast.
 
cyberman said:
But they get more time in Spain, more Tiki Taka as Casemiro said only a few days ago. As soon as the opposition quality rises he disappears and it’s hard to look past that. Not just that but Barca suffer annual humiliations in Europe when they’re completely overran.
EPL is a different, physical beast.
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My point was we need someone of that ilk, he is off the market anyway. But FdJ would adapt quickly to the league, no doubt in my mind. Just needs the right setup.
 
I'll probably get slammed for this but honestly, Mount instead of Eriksen there alongside Bruno and an actual RW on the right and we have a much better chance of winning that, imo (aside from the goalkeeping situation)
 
L1nk said:
I'll probably get slammed for this but honestly, Mount instead of Eriksen there alongside Bruno and an actual RW on the right and we have a much better chance of winning that, imo (aside from the goalkeeping situation)
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I concur. Start Bruno in the ten and start Sancho on the right and Garnacho on the left. Eriksen was horrible today. Lost every 50/50. he was so slow it looked like the city players were on cocaine.
 
after today game, I not convinced Mount is the answer. He wouldn't help moving the ball better
 
L1nk said:
I'll probably get slammed for this but honestly, Mount instead of Eriksen there alongside Bruno and an actual RW on the right and we have a much better chance of winning that, imo (aside from the goalkeeping situation)
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Slammed? No way. All the naysayers are going to come back in twelve months backtracking on it. Player like Mount brings the kind of harrying and energy our midfield desperately needed today and many times this season. Great fit for ETH
 
I dont think the issue was moving the ball - we looked so off the pace in midfield and didn't seem to have the energy to move the ball faster with Fred or Eriksen
 
Sid234 said:
I dont think the issue was moving the ball - we looked so off the pace in midfield and didn't seem to have the energy to move the ball faster with Fred or Eriksen
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Also it took Casemiro and Eriksen ages to do something with the ball at times. Have to pass it quicker against City in order not to give it away to them.
 
BorisManUtd said:
Also it took Casemiro and Eriksen ages to do something with the ball at times. Have to pass it quicker against City in order not to give it away to them.
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Yeah - agreed. We dwell on the ball too much - won't work against top teams
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Hm, ETH strikes me as a manager who will not change his system. I hope i am wrong. Laying with two advanced no8s would be great to watch.
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He played with 2 advanced 8s (Gravenberch and Berghuis) in front of a deep sitting CDM at Ajax after De Jong left for Barca so it's a very familiar setup for him.
 
Sid234 said:
Yeah - agreed. We dwell on the ball too much - won't work against top teams
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We need better ball carriers, for a while I was fixated on better passing but while we do need it, the overall lack of ball carriers, players that can get start a transition with the ball at their feet is maybe more important. The addition of Garnacho systematically adds a dimension to our game and a CM or 10 that can do the same thing could transform our transition phase.
 
If Mount is the answer then you are asking the wrong question. How can you watch that game and come to the conclusion that Mount's quality would have done anything? Eriksen wasn't great, but playing Sabitzer/McTom instead wouldn't have been any different from having Mount in there.

Mount is another run-of-the-mill midfielder, the type we have a few of already. Should not be seen as this savior of our midfield, which given what Chelsea are asking, appears to be the case here.
 
BarryWinks said:
If Mount is the answer then you are asking the wrong question. How can you watch that game and come to the conclusion that Mount's quality would have done anything? Eriksen wasn't great, but playing Sabitzer/McTom instead wouldn't have been any different from having Mount in there.

Mount is another run-of-the-mill midfielder, the type we have a few of already. Should not be seen as this savior of our midfield, which given what Chelsea are asking, appears to be the case here.
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Again why the hyperbole? Who said he’s the saviour of our midfield?
It’s a constant theme on here, up there with Kane won’t allow us to catch City on his own as if he’s the only signing we would make.
There’s no need to be so sensationalist!
 
JPRouve said:
We need better ball carriers, for a while I was fixated on better passing but while we do need it, the overall lack of ball carriers, players that can get start a transition with the ball at their feet is maybe more important. The addition of Garnacho systematically adds a dimension to our game and a CM or 10 that can do the same thing could transform our transition phase.
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Yes, absolutely. I believe having a midfielder who can get on the ball and drive through midfield with it will absolutely transform us. Unfortunately (and I haven't seen the numbers) Mount doesn't do this enough, or to a high enough level, to justify the links to us. Unless ETH is planning on changing the approach, but I can't see that being the case as it appears he's still looking to play with Case at the base of a midfield with two attack minded partners in Bruno and Mount.
 
izec said:
Mount will be an issue. If you play like City, then he would be fine. We dont. Stick Mount in midfield, and he would not be as good as you hope. He is too lightweight and not press resistant enough, compared to someone like FdJ. This is the type of player we need, not another player running around a lot but with no positional sense for a central midfielder and with no real playmaking skills (i.e. metronome and dictating tempo). He would be better than Eriksen, but we need someone behind Bruno and next to Casemiro with the magic touch. We basically/ideally need the closest thing to a prime Modric. Mount is not that, and it will show. He will just be another squad player that we overpaid for, and that we dont get full use of. We will have discussion on here wher ehe should play and next to whom, and what his best position is etc, without him performing as we all hope. He is not an 8.
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FFS, we're not going to sign FdJ, get over it.

Closest thing to a prime Modric?! That's not happening unless EtH has a magic lamp hidden up his arse.

Some of you on here really need a reality check.
 
We need to compete physically and athletically first and Mount would help us do that. He would make us harder to break down and contributes to the attack too.

I find it hard to believe how people can’t see him as an answer after watching Eriksen today. If anything, it’s the most pressing concern after a keeper.
 
Fred was having a mare today, Eriksen looked like he had no legs left on him and our options on the bench (McT) were no better to be able to improve things.
I feel Mount will be a decent upgrade in midfield at minimum, and probably be more given EtH's work with other players this season.
 
fecking shit little Player. He's about the same level as Sabitzer.
 
Maluco said:
We need to compete physically and athletically first and Mount would help us do that. He would make us harder to break down and contributes to the attack too.

I find it hard to believe how people can’t see him as an answer after watching Eriksen today. If anything, it’s the most pressing concern after a keeper.
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Agreed. Eriksen was just woeful today. I mean so bad. If you think gifting them a goal after 12 seconds was bad, Eriksens performance was much worse.
 
I'm not loving this.. think it's a terrible idea. Hasn't got the mentality and always comes across as someone who thinks they are better than they actually are.

Surely, we can get someone else?
 
We will probably buy this guy to continue our tradition of collecting average players. Would he get in Madrid's midfield?
 
bosnian_red said:
Nah. We need way more energy in there so we don't retire Casemiro early. Mount and Bruno ahead of Casemiro where both can work their socks off and we become a top counter pressing side. He'd have made a massive difference today, though ultimately when your goalkeeper is gifts a goal to City and boots it to them every touch, you can't do much.
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Massively agree. Alternatively, we could even move Bruno into the roaming winger role, with Mount, Rabiot and Casemiro in the middle. We see Pep doing it with Silva, as he's better defensively than Mahrez.

We're obviously not going to play City every week, but where we struggle, especially away from home, is being hard to beat. More energy, as you quite rightly pointed out, should improve our midfield.
 
After Eriksen's performance today I'm suddenly slightly more positive to this signing, at least Mount can run.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Massively agree. Alternatively, we could even move Bruno into the roaming winger role, with Mount, Rabiot and Casemiro in the middle. We see Pep doing it with Silva, as he's better defensively than Mahrez.

We're obviously not going to play City every week, but where we struggle, especially away from home, is being hard to beat. More energy, as you quite rightly pointed out, should improve our midfield.
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Yup. Mount is being massively underrated on here. I think people are getting confused between "he's not the ideal perfect option" with "he's shit". He's a realistic option, he's at a great age, he is versatile, he's shown a very high level and improves us loads towards being a proactive, counter pressing team. We won't have that guy who can slow the game down to dictate, but you can't address everything in 1 window. Will take time. Pep has been with City for 7 years now. Step 1 is being better at counter pressing and competing, the tempo dominance and full control is the last step. Get a striker, get a comfortable ball playing goalkeeper and have a team with no passengers in all phases of the game. You can't compete without that
 
Eriksen just doesn’t have the legs. It’s not even about stamina, the man can’t sprint. And when the game get’s stretched from 60’ onwards he’s a liability.

Mount would have done much better just by being a nuisance with his pace and running. Never mind being dangerous in the final 3rd.
 
Potentially a very good player but has stagnated and I suspect won’t be cheap despite contract situation. Ultimately if not bringing in someone like Caceido/Rice/Ugarte as well then he won’t make much difference.
 
Roboc7 said:
Potentially a very good player but has stagnated and I suspect won’t be cheap despite contract situation. Ultimately if not bringing in someone like Caceido/Rice/Ugarte as well then he won’t make much difference.
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To be fair many said Rashford had stagnated before this season. I see no reason why Mount couldn't get to his 2020/21 and 2021/22 levels.
 
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