Mason Mount | Confirmed
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What about a midfielder who scored 22 goals and assisted 25 in two seasons? Who would've been our best player in terms of goal contributions last season? Player of the Year for CL-winning Chelsea?
Different players positionally.but apart from that I agree. We needed to set sights higher than Mount. And we should not be blowing our budget in him.
Semantics. Of course every player is a squad player. But there are certain players who are first 11. Rashford, Casemiro and Bruno foe instance.
The irony is we are hijacking Mount from Liverpool
We are hijacking their mount transfer and they are hijacking our Mcallister transfer.Finally found this thread OP makes sense
OP makes senseWhen you try to sign these guys you have to sell the experience to them. We’d tell him he’s in a straight, fair fight with Bruno for no10. He wouldn’t fancy his chances.
Casemiro, Bruno and Eriksen are our first choice midfield and they’ve played something like 20 games together. It never works out on paper when you have first choice names and that’s it.
How many games will 31 year old Casemiro play for us? Eriksen got injured and when he came back Casemiro played some stupidly small amount of league games, I think it was 6?
It’s not semantics. It’s just less obvious now because we have so much shit in the squad but Ten Hag wants competition. Remember when Scott was playing so well Ten Hag was as able to bench Casemiro and ease him in? Remember when Sancho was sent to Holland but became a first choice player in the second half of the season? Now he’s bringing in a keeper to compete against 250k a week and GG winner De Gea
Incidentally, those you mentioned are the guys who are in the box seats but I always say you need other squad players trying to displace them and succeeding at least some of the time.
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Give me a name of an attacking midfield player who is potentially cheaper, has 20+ goals and assists in the last 4 years, and is still under 25 years old.
IMO, he is in the same bracket as Martin Odegaard.
If we want the best in the AM position with a long future ahead, the only player who fits the bill is Jamal Musiala. And we all know that he is not attainable.
The debate was that everyone is a squad player. But there is always a hierarchy based on quality and form.
Plenty of wow here. Including brilliant set piece deliveries, something we’re missing a lot.
Mount is nowhere near as talented as Gundogan or Silva. City would have really issues if they did that.
The fact a Chelsea fan is trying to sell him on a United forum speaks volumes on Mount. If he was any good you would be desperate to keep him.
It’s like me trying to convince Newcastle fans that McTomminay is a good signing for them.
I’m pretty sure Todd can’t believe his luck that United want to sign a player they will bin to the reserves next season according to you.
Also, 20 league starts is half the season. So he missed the other half. We already have enough sick notes in our squad. And as you pointed out at least Fred is always available.
And “his ceiling” is just a figment of your imagination. What he’s shown so far in his career has been average at best. He’s not good enough for a top 6 side. His level is Aston Villa, Brighton or Everton.
True, what I’m saying is that squad depth should ideally be such that the hierarchy changes.
Another way of putting it is that every player in the squad should believe that he can get into the team and it should be true that the quality is always improving and form is the main driver for selection.
He walks into our midfield. How can people watch Fred and Eriksen play against City today and not think otherwise?
Have you seen Chelsea against City or any other top half possession team?
Mount and Chelsea get dominated way more.
That's fair enough, but how many are English in City's everyday line up? Grealish and Foden don't seem to be regular starters in the team together, Walker is without a doubt the best RB for England, John Stones is a lucky boy to be in that line up.
Again, with Arsenal, other than White and Saka, would you say any of them would be worth at least 50 million?
Philips doesn't play, Walker was fool proof, he was the best RB in the league, John Stones looks better than he should in that city team. City have the luxury of squandering money on above average English players, we don't, could easily look towards the rest of Europe, you trying to tell me Mount is on par with Bruno who we paid just under 50 million excluding bonuses?
Stones, Walker, Grealish are undoubtedly their starters and part of their best team.
Arsenal play White, Saka, Ramsdale. Are you saying Saka isn't worth 50 million?
Every single City's starting English players are worth 50 million easily.
If he's better than eriksen I'll take it
Who said anything about Mount being on par with Bruno, your point was City and Arsenal don't target English players but players in Europe instead and I pointed out that it wasn't true, you conveniently skipped over Arsenal by the way.
I'm not exactly disagreeing with you but ETH and the recruitment team have clearly identified they can get what they consider to be a good deal for Mount and it is what it is.
Think he'd be an excellent addition and a big improvement on Eriksen
We should bayern them. Tap him now and get him for free next year. Ridiculous to spend 50 mil on a player who wants to leave with one year left on his contract, just because Chelsea want to cover their overspending.
I really like this signing. He’s young and technically very good. Rubbish season just gone but that’s a product of Chelsea at the moment. If ETH can get him back to last season and season before, he can be a big big player for us.
Even though I’m not super excited about Mount, he’s still more productive than MacAllister.
MaCallister is one of many players who are looking excellent in a Brighton system. Even welbeck looks great.
Give Chelsea whatever they want after witnessing Eriksens disgusting performance today.
After watching today's performance Mount is not the solution.
I remember him putting in some great displays against City. Good on the ball and good against the press. If anything, he is more of the type of player that we need.
No one player is the solution.
After watching Eriksen's performance, you can see why the manager would think somebody like Mount could be part of the solution.
Easy to see why we would want him to replace Eriksen whose legs have gone but won't help this team getting bullied physically.
Get him in. You saw how well we did when Fred had a good spell in the game. We need that for 90 with more quality attached.
He’s a 1000 percent upgrade on Eriksen
He’s a 1000 percent upgrade on Eriksen
He’s be an upgrade on Eriksen or De Gea at this point.
I think the opposite actually, he'd have been much better than Eriksen today. Eriksen was very easily bypassed and he can't exactly dribble with the ball.
Certainly not hard to see how the extra legs, energy and pressing he'd bring over Eriksen would have helped, without the drop off in technique other options we have carry.
Though obviously that's not quite the same as the way we'd line up in most games given Antony was out.
Though obviously that's not quite the same as the way we'd line up in most games given Antony was out.
Put Mount where Eriksen was today and we’d have looked better. Eriksen is great for lesser teams who play low block and Mount would have been great for this type of game.
Seeing us vs City, Mount is not solution. We need playmaking classic central midfielder.
Yep. All the intelligence, positional play and pressing won’t help without a couple of more players who can keep and pass the ball.
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