[JeffFromHK]

Based on two performances? Brilliant deduction.

That mentality or thinking is reason we are falling.

 

[Stacks]

His metrics are obviously very good, there was a lot of interest in him, but can’t help but think last season is just his actual level.

The Dele regression.

Might be a bit harsh that given what Ali talked about a few weeks back.

was just going to comment he reminds me of Delle Alli

 

[JeffFromHK]

He's also been two-time player of the year for Chelsea at a time when they were actually good. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good moan, eh.

Mata had also been two-time player of the year for Chelsea at a time when they were actually good.

 

[Appletonred]

When we were first linked to him my first thought was 'nah, not a Utd player', I'm still thinking that now, a genuinely poor signing and a mistake imo.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

So far he has not improved our attacking play, build up or defense and does not look like he would.

 

[Giggsyking]

Does anyone but Chelsea fans actually rate him?
Not even Southgate does

Not even Chelsea fans rate him.

 

[Litch]

He is a system player, cog within cogs, we have currently a crap system thats making even better players than Mount look shite.....

 

[renatosanches85]

I’d have him on the right over Antony tbh. Rashford on the left and Martial/Højlund up top. He could drop in when we don’t have the ball, lead the press from higher up the pitch, plus I cannot stand Antony (arguably our worst ever signing).

 

[DJ_21]

I don’t think he’s suited for playing deeper. He doesn’t control games like a deeper midfielder should be able to. For Chelsea he played in AM in a 3 at the back formation so it was like 3-4-2-1. He played in one of the 2 behind the striker where he was comfortable because he had the 2 midfielders behind him to protect him. No point expecting miracles from a player that doesn’t know the role for the position he’s playing in

 

[Giggsyking]

I bet half the whiners on here would have sold Vidic and Evra after their first two games too.

Actually not. First they were unknown to most fans and second we knew SAF can find hidden gems. This not the case here, everybody knows Mount, we have been watching him play like this for 3-4 years.

 

[Giggsyking]

I’d have him on the right over Antony tbh. Rashford on the left and Martial/Højlund up top. He could drop in when we don’t have the ball, lead the press from higher up the pitch, plus I cannot stand Antony (arguably our worst ever signing).

Great. We bought a cm to play him as a winger.

 

[CallyRed]

Does his family even rate him?

 

[Redstain]

He is a system player, cog within cogs, we have currently a crap system thats making even better players than Mount look shite.....

This is the issue. Mounts problem is not his ability but his suitability to the team. Double pivot midfield I think he works well as the 10. England played him deeper in the midfield and he got battered on the forums and online. There's nothing in his gameplay to show that he has the capabilities to thrive as an 8. As it stands he's just doing a job there. There's no way I'll criticize him no matter how badly he performs because it's solely on the manager assessing his relative need to the team.

 

[Drifter]

Still not impressed. Went missing second half

 

[RyRy11]

Depressing to think he cost a similar amount to Lavia

 

[sherrinford]

I don’t think he’s suited for playing deeper. He doesn’t control games like a deeper midfielder should be able to. For Chelsea he played in AM in a 3 at the back formation so it was like 3-4-2-1. He played in one of the 2 behind the striker where he was comfortable because he had the 2 midfielders behind him to protect him. No point expecting miracles from a player that doesn’t know the role for the position he’s playing in

It could be argued that he is being utilised in an equivalent role to his Chelsea one here, in possession - one full back moving into a midfield two ahead of a back three, and behind Mount as one of the two behind the striker?

 

[M Bison]

I thought he looked a bit more disciplined and can see he's being asked to hold his position and play a bit deeper.

 

[acnumber9]

We bought a vastly mediocre right winger for 80m when, by all accounts, we could have bought him for almost half that just a few months before.

That's pretty brainless.

I agree but there was at least a need for a winger. There was no need for a player like Mount.

 

[DJ_21]

It could be argued that he is being utilised in an equivalent role to his Chelsea one here, in possession - one full back moving into a midfield two ahead of a back three, and behind Mount as one of the two behind the striker?

Maybe but it will still be a different role. At Chelsea when he led the press but they got passed him he had 2 CM and a back line still behind him… with us out of possession if he presses high up then there’s a lot of space behind him for the opposition team to run through. It doesn’t help that Casemiro likes to get forward a lot aswell. You always see him Bruno and Mount occupying the same positions so once your passed all them 3 your basically in against the defence. It’s so easy.

 

[Appletonred]

Maybe we should have kept Sabitzer, who was far more impressive than what we have seen so far from Mount.

 

[NoPace]

Actually not. First they were unknown to most fans and second we knew SAF can find hidden gems. This not the case here, everybody knows Mount, we have been watching him play like this for 3-4 years.

This signing reminds me of Ashley Young, but more expensive (even with inflation). Bought a young England player we needed who might have already played his best stuff and isn’t good enough for us at his supposed position but will be a useful, professional versatile player who shouldn’t start. Fine for cheap but not a guy to spend first XI money on.

 

[Infra-red]

The collective caf mind is rarely correct in their assessment of transfers, with many notable errors down the years. Most posters didn't want Mount and, when we saw how EtH intended to play him, most said it wouldn't work. This is starting to look like one of the very rare occasions when we called it right.

 

[pascell]

The collective caf mind is rarely correct in their assessment of transfers. Most posters didn't want Mount and, when we saw how EtH intended to play him, most said it wouldn't work. This is starting to look like one of the very rare occasions when we called it right.

It was evident if you'd watched Mount for England at the WC playing the exact same position we knew ten Hag wanted to play him in. It was always going to be a disaster.

 

[Infra-red]

Maybe we should have kept Sabitzer, who was far more impressive than what we have seen so far from Mount.

We certainly should not have allowed Sabitzer and Fred to leave without signing a midfielder who excels in a deep midfield role. A proper #8 and a #6 (Casemiro backup) should have been the priorities in midfield.

 

[Member 117152]

This is the issue. Mounts problem is not his ability but his suitability to the team. Double pivot midfield I think he works well as the 10. England played him deeper in the midfield and he got battered on the forums and online. There's nothing in his gameplay to show that he has the capabilities to thrive as an 8. As it stands he's just doing a job there. There's no way I'll criticize him no matter how badly he performs because it's solely on the manager assessing his relative need to the team.

You are correct here. It’s not his fault he’s been asked to contribute defensively when obviously the guy is an attack midfielder same as Bruno.

I can’t say I understand the managers thinking or our tactics at times. Super open and wanting to play on the front foot with only Rashford and Bruno capable of scoring actual goals…

It’s a mess all round and super unbalanced which is putting huge pressure on Casemiro and our back 4.

He’s made the squad arguably weaker losing Fred for Mount. Fred offered a defined role and in all honesty I rated Fred higher than I ever rated Mount even at Chelsea and that’s a fact.

Hopefully he turns it round and he becomes the player I obviously never witnessed at Chelsea.

 

[cpresc]

Was prepared to give him some time, but seeing him having a laugh with Maddison after the game... oh my days.

That's a Man Utd central midfielder, number SEVEN who just lost to SPURS after giving a very bland performance...

Smiling and having a laugh with the opponent who ran rings around him...


I think he could fast become my Maguire 2.0

 

[Infra-red]

It was evident if you'd watched Mount for England at the WC playing the exact same position we knew ten Hag wanted to play him in. It was always going to be a disaster.

Unusually, this is a player we'd all actually seen a lot of over the years - not having to rely on YouTube videos probably helped the Caf's collective assessment somewhat.

 

[sillwuka]

He can cross so I wouldn't be surprised seeing him out at RW with Eriksen coming back into his usual spot. I'd try that.

 

[stw2022]

Thought he was okay. Better than first match.

 

[DWelbz19]

The collective caf mind is rarely correct in their assessment of transfers, with many notable errors down the years. Most posters didn't want Mount and, when we saw how EtH intended to play him, most said it wouldn't work. This is starting to look like one of the very rare occasions when we called it right.

Which is what makes it all the more frustrating. The manager and his coaching staff(?) thought that they could see or do something that virtually every person who has a semi vested interest in football knew they could not. A premier league midfield 3 of Casemiro, Mason Mount, and Bruno Fernandes. This type of arrogance and wanton disregard for sense is the type of shite Zeus would have you condemned to a rock for

 

[arnie_ni]

Said it in the match thread. Hated the player at chelsea/eng and hated the signing, but thought he did well first half. Minus 5 10mins after the antony and Bruno yellows we bossed the first half and should have been out of sight.

He was anonymous 2nd

 

[avgp_1]

Get a proper #6/8 and move him over to the RW, a decent bit of play when he moved there right before being subbed. Technically he is quite good but his lack of involvement gets magnified for the position he is playing in right now.

 

[sullydnl]

Was good in the first half, vanished in the second.

 

[Devil_forever]

Get a proper #6/8 and move him over to the RW, a decent bit of play when he moved there right before being subbed. Technically he is quite good but his lack of involvement gets magnified for the position he is playing in right now.

Eh? He has no pace. His decent bit of play was an over hit cross.

 

[avgp_1]

Eh? He has no pace. His decent bit of play was an over hit cross.

I wasn't clear tbh. I dont think we should look for a winger that hugs the touchline anymore on the RW, utilize AWBs ball progressive skills over there, rather use somebody like Mount to play around the right half space, the decent piece of play was the half a yard he made for himself to put that ball in. Let Rashford/Garnacho add the width on the other side and have Shaw tucked in.

 

[Idxomer]

He peaked in the game in the move before Romero's handball. It's the only time when I thought that playing him as an 8 isn't that crazy.

 

[Baneofthegame]

That mentality or thinking is reason we are falling.

So you would have sold Vidic and Evra?

 

[Doracle]

The collective caf mind is rarely correct in their assessment of transfers, with many notable errors down the years. Most posters didn't want Mount and, when we saw how EtH intended to play him, most said it wouldn't work. This is starting to look like one of the very rare occasions when we called it right.

Generally, the Caf is wildly optimistic about any new signings. When was the last time there was so little enthusiasm over signing someone as Mount and they went on to be a success?

 

[Leethal]

So you would have sold Vidic and Evra?

As I said earlier. Evra and Vidic were unknowns, coming into a new league at a different intensity to what they were accustomed to.

Mount is not. Mount has been around, and honestly, never ever impressed me - be it for Chelsea, the national team, and most certainly United.

I never wanted him here. And now we're stuck with him and we will be forced into playing our new darling #7 and 'marquee' transfer. You can just see the way that United PR team is trying to drive his stock up. Everywhere you turn our PR team is trying to spin him up. Here's a though - try justifying your place in the team - let alone your transfer - and maybe the fans will have some patience. Running around a lot, (amounting to absolutely nothing), then laughing and joking with a rival player after the whistle (in a game you performed poorly, and subsequently was on the losing side), is not going to win the fans over.

 

[lilcurt]

He can cross so I wouldn't be surprised seeing him out at RW with Eriksen coming back into his usual spot. I'd try that.

Eriksen is finished, he can't run. You cannot put him beside Casemiro.