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So he'll be back for Brighton probably play about 15 minutes when we're 4-1 down and then he'll be injured for the Cup Final?
So he'll be back for Brighton probably play about 15 minutes when we're 4-1 down and then he'll be injured for the Cup Final?
Invisible again today. Anyone know what's going on with him? It's a shame because he could have been a useful player this season.
It could be something he picked up here and there needs to be an investigation into why this happens at United.At this point I'm beginning to fear Mason Mount is the new Owen Hargreaves in terms of availability, except even Hargreaves had a great first season for United.
How did Mount even pass the medical? If it was not a long-term underlying medical issue, then he must be the 2nd most unfortunate footballer alive (the 1st being Malacia) for getting recurrent injuries and knocks. In his performances thus far this season I can only remember 1 pressure of note that led to a goal. Apart from that, it has been 60 million down the drain for a player that doesn't improve us significantly and would have been available on a free at the end of this season.
The signing only makes sense if he's the difference between 2/3 and winning the title (sorta like rvp)Awful signing.
Even if he improves it's still a terrible waste of 60 million quid because at his best he's not someone that's hugely impressive. Decent, yes.
And he might never actually improve, it's happened to this type of neat and tidy attacking midfielder before at the club. Unless you're exceptional you can just fade away into the background as the team isn't functional and unless you have real personality to stamp your mark on a game you just disappear.
When you blow a big chunk of the summer budget on a player who is hardly available, whose role in the team is unclear, and who would have been significantly cheaper one year later, of course people aren't going to be very happy.I feel like this thread supports the idea that people love to moan. 120 pages for a guy who has been injured for so much the season is crazy.
Make or break next season for him.
If he doesn't have a strong season next year we'll move him on, and it'll be a drop down the table for him.
How do you know we could've got him cheaper next season?When you blow a big chunk of the summer budget on a player who is hardly available, whose role in the team is unclear, and who would have been significantly cheaper one year later, of course people aren't going to be very happy.
He would have been out of contract, thus no transfer fee (which went a long way towards funding Chelsea's FFP allowance, nice going!).How do you know we could've got him cheaper next season?
Role in the team maybe a point worth discussing, but that isn't really what gets discussed in here.
Hardly available, just unlucky with injuries this season as has been the case with a few players.
That doesn't mean we would have got him, or that he wouldn't have signed a new contract or moved elsewhere last summer.He would have been out of contract, thus no transfer fee (which went a long way towards funding Chelsea's FFP allowance, nice going!).
Great. Then we shrug and move on to other targets, as all football clubs do.That doesn't mean we would have got him, or that he wouldn't have signed a new contract or moved elsewhere last summer.
That's not even relatedGreat. Then we shrug and move on to other targets, as all football clubs do.
Exactly. We acted like Mount was this standout player that every club was drooling over. We could not possibly even risk another club getting their hands on him.Great. Then we shrug and move on to other targets, as all football clubs do.
As others have said, I genuinely keep forgetting we have this guy for next season and was only reminded of his existence in another thread.
I hope he can kick on next season and find some form. Where exactly he fits in the team if Bruno is staying, I don't know.
You mean for FA cup? Because he did won CL and two super cups with CelskiBroke his incredible run of losing finals!
Yeah, I think it's safe to say the plan with the two advanced 8's is probably dead at this point (and that's probably a good thing!). Unless Bruno leaves though I genuinely have no idea where he plays as Bruno is never rested and is rarely injured or dropped. As things are at the moment, you put Garnacho on the right, Rashford on the left, so the wing spots are not available to him and there are probably more natural options for those positions anyway.With Mainoo emerging he probably has even less chance of getting near a start.
If the original plan was a beast mode Casemiro with Mount and Bruno ahead, Mainoo isn't really that Casemiro role, so will be where Mount was meant to be playing.
So maybe 20-30mins every couple of weeks and the occasional cup start might be it.
I would really like for Ten Hag to come out and explain where was he seeing Mount in this team, and what the idea was with bringing him. Because, I don't believe in "If a player like Mount is available, you go for him" justification. We are not in Arsenal/City stage, where they can afford buying a player they don't really need. Especially since he is on a reportedly $250k per week.
Mount/Bruno/Casemiro as the starting 3
It was to play Mount/Bruno/Casemiro as the starting 3 with Mainoo/Eriksen/McTominay as the back up. Not saying that's the right thing to do but it's clearly what we were going too.
Awful signing.
Even if he improves it's still a terrible waste of 60 million quid because at his best he's not someone that's hugely impressive. Decent, yes.
I think you’re right in that it also could have worked with jan 23 Casemiro, but not with aug 23 Casemiro. I think Amrabat was an FFP makeshift backup to Casemiro, because on his form of WC 22 he might have pulled it off, but he is clearly one (at best), two or in bad form three shelves below players like Makelele.That MIGHT'VE worked if you had Prime Makelele or Kante. Not declining Casemiro. Or his idea was to have the defense much further up the pitch, tightening up that space between attack and defense, so the fact that none of Bruno and Mount are defensively good, be covered.
Mount is a great presser, it could have worked with last year's Casemiro. It's obviously a moot point now, but there was some logic to the project.That MIGHT'VE worked if you had Prime Makelele or Kante. Not declining Casemiro. Or his idea was to have the defense much further up the pitch, tightening up that space between attack and defense, so the fact that none of Bruno and Mount are defensively good, be covered.
That MIGHT'VE worked if you had Prime Makelele or Kante. Not declining Casemiro. Or his idea was to have the defense much further up the pitch, tightening up that space between attack and defense, so the fact that none of Bruno and Mount are defensively good, be covered.