A very good player and a great prospect... Where is Callum Gribbin now.
Mason Greenwood
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I dunno about that tbh. I rarely remember seeing him running at a defender and tying them in knots, which is what I think of "dribbling as being". Certainly more than capable of beating a man with but that was usually with clever feints.
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He was a superb dribbler.
He was, but I can understand why United fans who didn’t watch him a lot during his Arsenal days might not think he was ‘amazing’ at it.
By the time we got him he was a complete forward, and only used his skills in the most dangerous situations, i.e. when he only needed to go past one defender to get a shot off. He was 29 when he came, and didn’t use his energy trying to take on several players, which is a low percentage game for everyone not named Messi. He has a lot of goals for us where he got away from a defender by a drop of the shoulder or feinting a shot etc.
Jesus I'm staring to think he's better than ravel was at that age.
Bit wasteful today but you can tell he just finds it too easy. He won't need a shower after the game.
Update on his stats, divided by all competitions and levels, please 
Super excited about this kid. I think he's the most talented (most rounded anyway) striker I've seen at that age.
He's genuinely a football manager regen. I just hope he can continue with this form, but it seems to come so naturally / easy I can't see how he can fail to make it.
He's genuinely a football manager regen. I just hope he can continue with this form, but it seems to come so naturally / easy I can't see how he can fail to make it.
Update on his stats, divided by all competitions and levels, please
17 goals and 7 assists in 15 games across the 17s, 19s & 23s.
That’s all I got.
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Yeah RvP was an excellent dribbler at that age, I think he was quicker and stronger as well. Was really explosive.
exactly. its crazy people already forgot how good RvP was. madness
You can always just look at transfermarkt, they do youth stats now. It'll be missing the PL cup games like today but close enough.Update on his stats, divided by all competitions and levels, please
Has this kid got something that Mourinho will want to use? Really want to see him play.
Way too good for that level.
Such an all rounder player (already) at that age. Looks like a good team player as well. Hope to see him in the first team soon, even as late sub.
Mason Greenwood doesn't seem like a striker to me, he's more of centre-forward, too comfortable with both feet, playing on the left and right interchanging and roam through the middle. I was thinking of Rooney position which he would thrive in this or false 9.
It's very rare a 17 year old (just turned) makes U18 football look way too easy! Looks like he's playing against U14's when he's in full stride! I personally wouldn't waste his time playing for Sbragia in the U23's!
Straight up to the first team squad
Straight up to the first team squad
Do you want tea or coffee with that?Update on his stats, divided by all competitions and levels, please
Isn't a centre-forward a striker ?
Surely not?
these Fifa kids.I mean striker like Lukaku, Morata, Kane, Zlatan, Cavani, they lend the line and hold on the ball, laying balls off to others and finish chance, the striker is their strongest strength. Greenwood doesn't have a fixed position, I called him a centre-forward because of his versatile, he can play everywhere with balls at his both feet comfortably even though centre is his main position, he's more of the Pep/Tuchel/Klopp no.9 player.
That's insane. I hope we nurture him properly.
He's a complete striker. Everybody complains about strikers like Lukaku having rubbish technique and being a hinderence in general play, then as soon as one comes along, whos banging them in at more than a goal a game average, scoring every type of goal you can imagine, with both feet and head, but who also happens to have class technique and all round ability to go with it, the shouts go out to play him here, there, and everywhere other than striker. The closer to goal Greenwood is, the better it is for the team he's playing for, thats as a striker.
I don't think he stated otherwise. He was just saying that for him, he likes to classify the Ruud, Chicha, Lukaku, etc... type as strikers and the Ronaldo, RVP type as forwards.
I just use the terms interchangeably, but I get what he's trying to say.
I'm probably exaggerating to be fair. At 15 Ravel was taking the piss out of everyone at u18 level. At 17 he was taking the piss out of the reserves. This lads the closest I've seen though. That snakehips shit he did for the first goal today reminded me of Ravel a lot.Surely not?
This kid looks incredible. He looks ready for a debut in the first team, certainly much more than Rashford did before his. I wouldn't be surprised to see him around the first team towards the end of the season, maybe getting a debut in the last league game of the season or possibly in an FA Cup game if we draw a League Two team or something.
It didn't do Sammy Mc any harm getting thrown in the deep end as a 17 year old at City so I'd be tempted to at least have him on the bench today.
No chance I'd be rushing him up through the age groups too quickly. Let him continue to develop this season and look at moving him up and age group next season.
I know we're not the greatest at first team level at the moment, but let's just take our time with the youth and bring them into a well functioning side, rather than throwing them in when they need to perform instantly.
If some people had their way we'd have Chong, Gomes and Greenwood all on the bench with actual first team players left at home.
I know we're not the greatest at first team level at the moment, but let's just take our time with the youth and bring them into a well functioning side, rather than throwing them in when they need to perform instantly.
If some people had their way we'd have Chong, Gomes and Greenwood all on the bench with actual first team players left at home.
If 4-3-3 is our formation of choice for the foreseeable future then that Right Forward position would suit Mason down to the ground!
Playing him CF would be a lot of pressure but given the state of our right side there'd be little expectation on him there!
Playing him CF would be a lot of pressure but given the state of our right side there'd be little expectation on him there!
He/she did state otherwise, they said in there post previous to the one i quoted that Greenwood didnt look like a striker to him/her and should play the Rooney position(whatever that is,he played so many) or false 9. Greenwoods as lethal a finisher as there is at his age, having more strings to his bow than a penalty box player dosnt make him any less of a striker, it makes him a more complete one. For me you keep the absolute goal machine as close to the opposition goal as possible, dont over complicate things and be happy he's also a quality footballer to boot.
Greenwoods always been a quality talent and he's been highly rated playing all these behind the striker or winger/wide forward positions coming through the ranks. He's went up another level or two over the last 12/14 month when they stopped playing him in these other roles and started playing him as a striker, something kieran Mckenna said was a concious decision by the club because thats where they see his future.
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It's not that rare. Januzaj did it, Wilson did it, Pereira did it (at 16!), Gomes did it, TFM did it, Chong did it. There's not a lot of physicality at U18 level so if you're talented enough you can shine early. You need the test of the U23s to see how the kid does against big guys who know how to use their bodies and can match his pace before you think about throwing him into senior football.
Imagine if we didn't have Sbragia in charge of his time in the reserves.
Didn't het get a serious injury and has just started to make his comeback?
I'd argue that the players you have mentioned really excelled at U18 level but didn't look anywhere near as dominant as Mason; he's playing a different game to the other kids!
He's an amazing talent indeed, miles better than Rashford. If LVG was still around, this boy would be playing 1st team football this season or next one. it seems that our academy is now producing good talents again, Nicky Butt doing a good job.
I dunno, Januzaj was filth at both U18 and reserve level. Shame he was not professional enough at first team level.
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