The rumours are of interest from a couple of Italian clubs, I believe.
Mason Greenwood (Please post respectfully)
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Depends if you are good at your job, S&P 500 companies care about profits, look at Vince Mcmahon right now he had a sexual scandal fairly recently melted into the background until the multi billion dollar deal was in place now he is back as strong as ever maybe even stronger than before, these companies don't have morals when it comes to making money
I think that's highly unlikely because he's never gonna admit he abused or raped her in public.
I think any sort of PR campaign would be very carefully handled by United's legal and communications teams. Any interview given on the topic would be pre-scripted with every word carefully pored over.
I believe MG was compensated his entire (or most of) his wages during his time away.
I would argue that most prisoners are not potential role models for millions of kids.
Not a chance. He can feck right off.
From a footballing point of view he should go abroad on loan. He hasn’t played a single minute since January 2022.
The uncomfortable question of whether he should play for us again can be put back until next year. ETH should not have to be dealing with this so early into his job.
The uncomfortable question of whether he should play for us again can be put back until next year. ETH should not have to be dealing with this so early into his job.
You have to ask yourself would you be able to cheer him on? Celebrate with him? Chant his name? The answer for me is no.
Not saying it should be off limits either, but it’s hyperbolic & truth-bereft posts like the one to which I commented which help derail threads in here.
It is. No doubt about it.
Whether we think it appropriate or not, the sentiment of not being able to cheer him on would fade once he scores a few goals.
I do find it a little amusing that there are some who fret about the club's debt repayments and claim it's ruining the club (hence the twerking for Qatar), yet some of the very same people are on this thread casually calling for the club to throw away a ~£120m asset (4 years of debt repayments!)
All I can say is thank God they aren't in positions of power over the club!
All I can say is thank God they aren't in positions of power over the club!
Really surprised that it's so close. People are putting football before morals. Something we laugh at our rivals for.
It's widely known United fans don't talk about Giggs anymore due to what came out despite his legend status. Now people are willing to cheer Greenwood on for the next ten years despite what we know. All for a couple of goals. Personally couldn't stomach him wearing the shirt again. He deserves help, but don't forget he had more help than the majority of people get and the majority of people don't do what he did. We should move on.
It's widely known United fans don't talk about Giggs anymore due to what came out despite his legend status. Now people are willing to cheer Greenwood on for the next ten years despite what we know. All for a couple of goals. Personally couldn't stomach him wearing the shirt again. He deserves help, but don't forget he had more help than the majority of people get and the majority of people don't do what he did. We should move on.
Thanks for your legal perspective. It’s good that we can at least legally let him go without paying some sort of compensation.
Regarding his return, as an overseas fan, I believe that there is enough societal voice (women’s groups, activists, United’ own women’s team and many more) in the UK, who will never allow this to happen. So I’m confident that the club will, and has to, do the right thing.
On Qatar, I’m with you.
There are ton of examples of many great careers ending after the public image is ruined. Some of the examples in the thread are also crazy. Mason is not that good.
I’m not saying he should not play football ever again. Just not at United.
Wonderful talent with the world at his feet. But in this modern age, despite being technically innocent, I fear he and the club will get castigated should he return. The clips on social media won’t be forgotten. What a waste but we have to move on and move him on to presumably another country for a new start.
I'd have thought the fact that he's been out of the fold for so many months would be grounds enough to sell him. From a footballing perspective, they could claim he's lost too much time in development and is now surplus to requirements.
How much was this asset worth before he stopped training and playing for a year and half?
I thank god everyday for his debt considerations in the form of a domestic abuse asset in the context of a football club being better. Some say you can see god in the sunshine but I see him in the breakdowns of asset management and debt repayments.That's where he shines.
No. I would not support the team.
Where have you got this valuation from?
If I've learned anything in this life it's that some humans are despicable and some of them play football. Greenwood is probably not worse than some other players we cheer on every week. Unfortunately for him he was caught red handed, and it's impossible for me to ever unhear what I heard.
A wasted talent.
A wasted talent.
His wife or girlfriend has forgiven him, their parents have forgiven him, his church must have forgiven him, the case has been dropped, who am I to stop him from enjoying what he does best. The guy is free to play his football in Manchester United.
I'd love to see him play for united again, wonderful talent.
He has made mistakes but common, this guy will grow up and become a better human being, give the boy a chance.
I'd love to see him play for united again, wonderful talent.
He has made mistakes but common, this guy will grow up and become a better human being, give the boy a chance.
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I know that we all would like to see an apology. The issue is that from legal perspective it is not that easy and any lawyer will not allow him to do that due to potential repercussions. Any public apology would be drafted in a way that would not address directly the situation in question.
The club can however be active in a way where they can help a young person to turn the corner and at the same time establish very strict rules for the relationship between the club and the player. I also hope that Mason’s situation actually changed the policy around the club and they are taking preventive actions for similar situations to never take place.
Unless you English guys don't believe in your own justice system, I don't see why he can't come back. Our best right side player. Our best finisher. Why not?
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Of course. It would have to be carefully scripted and legally scrutinized before proceeding.
This is how Trump got elected.
Why not? Will I cheer for him if he scores? Yes... At the top of my voice.
It’d be interesting to know how many of the people that have voted yes have daughters of their own.
Even as someone who voted yes, there have been some dreadful takes in this thread. Sort yourselves out.
There is no longer a legal reason he cannot play.
The parties involved have clearly reconciled.
It is now a private matter.
The parties involved have clearly reconciled.
It is now a private matter.
Hard no for me. Surprised the poll is so close to be honest, I expected a landslide.
I think the fact he’s just a generational talent alone counts the most. I mean if he was Marcus at your local Sunday league he wouldn’t have the privilege.
Also on a player level when you look at the performance of Jadon Sancho who cost us £75m. You get a scale of how good MG actually was.
People deserve an opportunity to redeem themselves. That's a good principle in my view.
Of course there's nothing simple about this whole scenario. But one thing that never sits well with me is the idea that Greenwood should not be allowed resume his career at Manchester United because it would reflect badly on the club. That idea that we think that we or our club or football in general represents high moral principles that Greenwood has fallen below and so he should be thrown aside... If anyone is projecting high moral values on any element of professional football then they need to take a step back and consider what they're watching each week.
Greenwood should be given a second chance and we should hold the football industry to higher standards not just individuals who make mistakes.
Of course there's nothing simple about this whole scenario. But one thing that never sits well with me is the idea that Greenwood should not be allowed resume his career at Manchester United because it would reflect badly on the club. That idea that we think that we or our club or football in general represents high moral principles that Greenwood has fallen below and so he should be thrown aside... If anyone is projecting high moral values on any element of professional football then they need to take a step back and consider what they're watching each week.
Greenwood should be given a second chance and we should hold the football industry to higher standards not just individuals who make mistakes.
a hoax !!! are you joking ?
I’ve tough my kids about respect based on his recordings. Don’t want him anywhere near United.
Are we in possession of the facts yet so to form a properly informed opinion?
On footballing grounds it's easy to say, but there's so much more to it than that. If he's not totally innocent then I can't see how that doesn't make it impossible to reintegrate him into the squad and have a happy camp.
On footballing grounds it's easy to say, but there's so much more to it than that. If he's not totally innocent then I can't see how that doesn't make it impossible to reintegrate him into the squad and have a happy camp.
Indeed, it's perfectly possible to apologize for something with out actually saying what it is you're apologizing for, the meaning is clear but you aren't actually saying it, that's basically what politicians do to get away with everything
He won't be able to respond
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