Sponsors will kick up a fuss, women's team will kick up a fuss. Many groups will kick up a fuss.
Not worth the hassle. Fire him out of a cannon.
Not worth the hassle. Fire him out of a cannon.
Mason Greenwood (Please post respectfully)
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Nothing like one of these threads to remind you how shite most people are.
Those who wants him back (even if he is innocent/not found guilty) must think about all the negative PR that will surround him. We dont need that PR and negativity at the club and the dressing room.
But I will anyways wait for the club's decision to give my opinion. They have much more information than me.
But I will anyways wait for the club's decision to give my opinion. They have much more information than me.
Evidence in cases like this often can be circumstantial, which, if convincing, can be seen as enough evidence to convict. Very dangerous road you are going down with that argument.
I'm glad I saw this post from you. I'm gonna get out of this thread before I see posters I like saying they want him back. Don't think I can take the heartache.
Guys a millionaire, you think he's been training in the park?
You also think united have had no input?
Bring him back but stipulate he has to do lots of charity work and donate some of his salary to charity.
If he genuinely shows regret pubicly and accepts some responsibility I would accept some form of come-back but coming back and pretending like nothing ever happened, nope I would never accept that as fan for over 35 years, the club is bigger than him. I would honestly stop supporting and watching United if that happens.
Just to clarify: Greenwood was caught on tape saying some really unpleasant stuff, but there is no evidence that anything further occurred; the girl in question is back in a relationship with the guy and the case against him has been dismissed.
I'm not asking the following question rhetorically: to all the people who are disgusted at the idea of MG ever playing for us again, why were you not so virulently against CR coming back to us? Genuinely curious.
https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...nts-emerge-in-rape-allegations-a-1241349.html
For what it's worth, I think he needs to be shipped off on loan for next season and if he picks it up where he left off as a world class yong talent, then we see about either selling him for a good price or reintegration him into the team in the summer of 2025.
I don't see it happening though. Losing 18 months of development means that he is more likely to be like the current version of Dele Alli than the current version of Bukayo Saka.
I'm not asking the following question rhetorically: to all the people who are disgusted at the idea of MG ever playing for us again, why were you not so virulently against CR coming back to us? Genuinely curious.
https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...nts-emerge-in-rape-allegations-a-1241349.html
For what it's worth, I think he needs to be shipped off on loan for next season and if he picks it up where he left off as a world class yong talent, then we see about either selling him for a good price or reintegration him into the team in the summer of 2025.
I don't see it happening though. Losing 18 months of development means that he is more likely to be like the current version of Dele Alli than the current version of Bukayo Saka.
I'm pretty sure the club has sought advise with those groups beforehand before making a decision public.
It was pretty difficult supporting the club with Ronaldo 2.0 in the squad, what with his unambiguous Las Vegas story, and I’d rather the club just set a higher bar for player behavior. I don’t expect our players to be paragons of virtue, but there is a line and MG clearly crossed it.
Marcos Alonso was responsible for the death of a young woman. He has had a pretty decent career hasn't he??
Yeah I'm not sure about jumping to all sorts of conclusions based on a minute long clip. He was 19 at the time, doesn't excuse him obviously but kids say stupid shit and he was known to be immature.
I made my mistakes when I was his age. I experimented with drugs, I took my parents for granted and I had an attitude that I’d look back on in later life and regret.
I didn’t attempt to rape and beat my partner.
His behaviour can’t be rationalised, and in turn, normalised as the behaviour of an immature youngster.
I will bite.
Yes, considered it and from business side perspective we would not be the first enterprise to tackle such scandal.
The club needs to consult all the stakeholders, present the plan for handling the whole situation and actual steps taken to rehabilitate the player in question. If the stakeholders are not convinced and there is a risk of significant economic losses then of course like any other business the club needs to mitigate any losses and let Mg go.
However, in my opinion the club has some redeeming to do in respect of MG. These young players spend probably more time at the club than at home so the club also needs to take part in bringing up these kids and the club clearly failed on that part with Mason. However, there is still time to rectify it as a 21 year old kid can change. Yes, for me 21 year olds are not yet fully developed adults even though legally they are.
I didn't open this thread expecting to get a chuckle, but that's just fecking excellent
I say that all the time, more of our players should aspire to be like Marcos Alonso.
I am just reading and not posting any more, because if I did I would get banned for sure. My blood is already boiling.
There was no conviction despite strong interest from the public. As you said, if the evidence was convincing enough, in some cases they don't even need the victim to testify.
I certainly hope so
Amazing
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Leaving my opinions to one side, in footballing terms he could get back to the player he was. He has after all not suffered an injury like Shaw did which meant he couldn't been train for 9 months. If he has kept in shape and conducted some basic training then he should be OK.
Dele Alli seemed to have just lost all motivation and didn't adapt his game.
Can’t help but feel there’s a strong correlation between the sentiment in some of the replies in here, and willingness from some of our fans for the Qatari’s to takeover the club.
@Biggins
Using one of your few daily posts to quote yourself is a bold move. I like it.
Using one of your few daily posts to quote yourself is a bold move. I like it.
"What would Marcos Alonso do?" - David Moyes
Yeah I think I'm heading back out. This is really frustrating.
Would doubt he's a millionaire. He hasn't been playing the game long enough. Plus I imagine he's had an expensive last couple of years.
Oh boy, you've lived a sheltered life.
You haven't lived until you casually rape somebody, claim it was a mistake, do a little litter-picking and waltz back into a multi million pound job.
Wherever he'd train, nothing will ever replace team training, team bonding and real match fitness/sharpness.
It would take him a while to get back to a decent form, never mind improve on the many elements he had to before.
Besides, there is no way he is a millionaire
Theres no way he could play football again at least in the UK let alone for us.
He should be jail there's no doubt about that and he is extremely lucky he is not.
He is not innocent nor found innocent and again they're is way he should be playing football
He should be jail there's no doubt about that and he is extremely lucky he is not.
He is not innocent nor found innocent and again they're is way he should be playing football
OH come on that was a car crash an accident, are you really implaying kts even close to the same
So. How many people have said they’d beat you up and gone through with it.
I’ve been or heard many men talk reckless to woman and I would be silly to call them all abusers. Sometimes you have to use live experience as a judge of a situation.
Did he beat her up, me personally I think he did. But listening to that tape I would never say he’s a rapist.
He wasn't just talking and/or saying stupid shit. Listen to it again. imo he was in the process of coercing her into sex but make up your own mind obviously.
As I said it many times, that guy is an oppo troll, in my opinion.
He writes devil's advocate posts that seem reasonable on the face of it but really, there's no way he has all the beliefs expressed in his posts and is a United fan.
For one, no United fan is a Glazer apologist, at least not on here.
What a rollercoaster, one that potentially never even ended.
Mate millions across the world listen to Chris Brown it’s not different to Greenwood.
They'll be claiming he accidentally fell on and penetrated her next.
Sell him abroad (Serie A or Ligue 1) use the fee to help fund a striker and a keeper.
This thread is really validating my ignore list.
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