The club were dammed if they did or didn’t but now he needs replacing so the Glazers you need to put your hand in your pocket and get a replacement in now.
Mason Greenwood | Officially a Marseille player
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Jesus give it a rest ffs. Your just trolling with your drivel now.
But no proof in a court of lawOut of context right guys?
The complainant’s statements, together with the audio and video evidence we all know about, could have made for a compelling prosecution case - possibly more than is usually seen in DV cases. But it all hinged on the complainant’s ongoing cooperation. Once it became clear that she’d made up her mind - forget about it.
The club have also said they believe he didn't do those things.
Ridiculous decision. The kid needed the club’s support, not thrown onto a heap.
There are loads of accused and convicted criminals living a normal life in football, supported by their clubs. But United has to take the rogue route.
They’ve lost even more of my respect.
There are loads of accused and convicted criminals living a normal life in football, supported by their clubs. But United has to take the rogue route.
They’ve lost even more of my respect.
I wouldn’t be so sure! There have been many rumours in the last couple of years of players accused of horrible sexual crimes and they are still playing as if nothing happened!
No surprise here. Wonder if he'll come back to the premier league eventually. I mean, Alonso is playing in Spain again now after what he did.
I'm not here to judge. He has a baby with his partner and consequences will not only impact him but his partner and newborn. Think it's time for us to move ahead.
That’s proof of him being a pretty horrible person, not rape. Something which he wasn’t charged with. He was charged with attempted rape. Something the club have decided based on their findings he wasn’t guilty of also.
fecking hell
Correct we don't know. So we should stop going around saying we do is the point
Decision made. Good for you, Richard. Now haul arse on the market and get some exciting talents in mood of Garna, Pelli and Amad.
It’s fecking nonsense, and people eating it up should be ashamed of themselves.
The moment that recording came out, it became everyone connected with this club's business. He didn't rape her, but did he try?
How can you say it's not our business?
Maybe they dont want to make it more public than it already is. You can see how people are quick in judging others with limited information.
Family deserves the right to live peacefully away from internet mob and i completely understand not projecting the entire picture online because they dont owe the internet mob anything
The police and legal teams don't start building and preparing cases if someone doesn't make a credible allegation. Credible in the fact he was arrested and questioned and charged with a crime, and it was referred to the CPS etc.
The fact this process of a case being prepared against him then collapsed AND THE REASON GIVEN BY ALL PARTIES WAS that the victim changed their mind, I'd say that's evidence she changed her mind.
It’s somehow even worse!! “We respect the anonymity of his ‘alleged’ accuser, but also here’s why we think she’s a liar… no we can’t actually tell you, but trust us, he’s innocent, but also he admits he’s made mistakes and we have to bin him”
What!!?!
Yes, it was. For which he was fired and practically chased out of the country. Greenwood can move on too if he wants. Just not here.
People made their minds up long ago mate. It’s stubbornness.
He was also charged with assault and controlling and cohesive behaviour which the club also say they do not believe he is guilty of
Let’s not go down the youved said similar things on an internet forum line, anyway. . .
I don’t believe the majority of people are represented on football forums. Something you’d have read elsewhere considering you’ve cited my post history so no would be the answer.
I do however think posters who only care about him playing for United but couldn’t care less when he plays elsewhere are a little morally bankrupt as DA is bigger than club colours.
Is the idea that many fans do not participate in debates on twitter & forums this will not be as partisan to their opinions as you’d like us all to be?
I personally don’t ‘support’ Greenwood though so no again.
Those accusations would be what exactly?
It is tasteless, as you say, and in its attempt to provide an explanation for the previous leaks (basically the same people testing the waters), ironically, it exposes the club's general ineptitude. He's basically saying that the club wanted him back, but there's not a single person in the organization willing to be held accountable for making this decision.
Difference is they’ve not been as mainstream and spoken about as openly, people who aren’t even football fans know about this.
No the club said after a lengthy investigation the evidence collected shows he did not do what he he was accused of doing. There's no believe or not believe involved.
Why would Mason accept a mutual termination when he is innocent in the law's eyes? He should get paid the contract in full, shouldn't he?
“I’d say” is not a fact but an opinion. There are no facts in your response
It’s really good news that Manchester United now has an elite detective agency within its walls, and they didn’t need to rely on the actual police investigation. I can’t wait to see what other crimes MU Private Eye sets about investigating.
What other choice did the club have? He hasn’t played in two years and even before he wasn’t that good. He wouldn’t save our season miraculously and would just cause unnecessary bad press for years to come. Not to mention the abysmal atmosphere we would have seen at every match…
You and many others will be wrong. He will spend a few years abroad then sign with a club in England.
I didn't say that he was legally guilty and I didn't insult anyone. You also didn't tell what the CPS said which was the reason why I quoted you in the first place and your response was that I was quibbling on semantics.
You are either mixing me up with someone else or you have a small issue with lying.
who says UK is the only place he can continue his career?
Shows he did not, and we believe he did not is the same thing
Its there in plain black and white.
Now we can say the club are lying or that the clubs investigation was floored, but we cannot say the club have specifically said their investigation collected show he did not do what he was accused of.
He was accused of the following:
1. Attempted rape
2. Assult
3. Controlling and Cohersive behaviour
The club is saying on the 3 things above the evidence collected shoed he did not do those things. Its clear.
Whether we believe the club or not is another thing, but lets not pretend that the club is saying anything other than what they have said
The decision, I think, it’s correct but the statements are awful.
I’ll never understand why MG did get back together with a girl who apparently wanted to destroy his life and his career. Because how do you just move on from this to business as usual? Not to mention, I don’t understand the parents and their involvement and how MG could breach bail. It’s all just too suspicious and weird.
I’ll never understand why MG did get back together with a girl who apparently wanted to destroy his life and his career. Because how do you just move on from this to business as usual? Not to mention, I don’t understand the parents and their involvement and how MG could breach bail. It’s all just too suspicious and weird.
We're mes que un club
Why? Mason has a valid contract with us. If we are terminating it we have to pay him out.
If you and your partner make a recording where it sounds like one is about to rape the other, people are going to think one of you is a rapist until you actually explain what the feck is going on.
Cos it's kinda embarrassing?
What if he's a ****? Would you want that to be out?
People do weird shit in the bedroom, if it's fine with them, the feck do I care.
In terms of talent, it is a massive loss to the club.
Has he done anything wrong? Legally, no. But the words that came out of his mouth are morally indefensible and plain disturbing.
This is Manchester United Football Club and everything that players do is put under the microscope, like the Onana penalty let off the other week that received a full week's media coverage.
We've already seen the amount of flak Maguire has had to face just for being bad at his job, the amount of stick Phil Jones got just for his facial expressions, and the way Pogba and now Onana are being treated for being confident, extroverted black players. There's a sick sense of desperation for Onana to fail that goes a lot deeper than the fact that he plays for a club that most people love to hate, it is because of a) his skin colour and b) the way he plays.
Staying at United, Greenwood would simply become a hate figure and it would be open season on him for rival fans because they would have ammunition to do so.
The club have no choice and sadly Mason Greenwood only has himself and his decision making to blame.
Has he done anything wrong? Legally, no. But the words that came out of his mouth are morally indefensible and plain disturbing.
This is Manchester United Football Club and everything that players do is put under the microscope, like the Onana penalty let off the other week that received a full week's media coverage.
We've already seen the amount of flak Maguire has had to face just for being bad at his job, the amount of stick Phil Jones got just for his facial expressions, and the way Pogba and now Onana are being treated for being confident, extroverted black players. There's a sick sense of desperation for Onana to fail that goes a lot deeper than the fact that he plays for a club that most people love to hate, it is because of a) his skin colour and b) the way he plays.
Staying at United, Greenwood would simply become a hate figure and it would be open season on him for rival fans because they would have ammunition to do so.
The club have no choice and sadly Mason Greenwood only has himself and his decision making to blame.
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