Stojan Stamenic
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Youngest player to score for England U21 since Walcott in 2006
The first of - hopefully - many in the league!
I still don't get how he wasn't our first attacker to be subbed on considering the bench. He offers so much more than Lingard already.
He's our 3rd top scorer in all comps which is impressive whichever way you look at it.4 goals and 1 assist this season.
3 goals in 4 starts and 1 goal as a sub.
That's a decent contribution. Hopefully he will get more mins.
I think Lingard offers more impetus, but Greenwood doesn't needlessly give the ball away like Lingard, and he has better end product. I also like Greenwood's passing better.The first of - hopefully - many in the league!
I still don't get how he wasn't our first attacker to be subbed on considering the bench. He offers so much more than Lingard already.
I think Lingard offers more impetus, but Greenwood doesn't needlessly give the ball away like Lingard, and he has better end product. I also like Greenwood's passing better.
Not true. Saying a player has more impetus, only means he has more impetus. It doesn't mean he's great in that attribute so no idea what you're on about. For example, Odoi drives at players more so than a more patient player. Having impetus doesn't mean he's a terrible player, or a great one. It just means he has more impetus and his affect on the game is going involve more of that. In regards to United it's just a fact that Lingard tries to drive towards opponents more than Greenwood right now, who outside of scoring, is a bit in his shell or just not physically mature enough to be a little more adventurous. Which is fine.Lingard doesn't really offer anything.
When you have to describe an attackers main attribute as 'impetus' then you've got a terrible player - best to put on a player that can score and assist when you're looking for goals.
Not true. Saying a player has more impetus, only means he has more impetus. It doesn't mean he's great in that attribute so no idea what you're on about. For example, Odoi drives at players more so than a more patient player. Having impetus doesn't mean he's a terrible player, or a great one. It just means he has more impetus and his affect on the game is going involve more of that. In regards to United it's just a fact that Lingard tries to drive towards opponents more than Greenwood right now, who outside of scoring, is a bit in his shell or just not physically mature enough to be a little more adventurous. Which is fine.
Maybe you're not carefully reading what I'm saying because I'm in agreement that Greenwood is the superior option because he has better end product and because he's playing more safer, he's not losing the ball like Jesse. However, I can understand a reason for why someone might want to bring Jesse in. He'll try to make things happen more. I just disagree with that decision because there's a fine line between looking deadly, causing trouble for opposing defenses, and looking like a headless chicken. Jesse's case is a little more of the latter, and his end product isn't worth that.
Him, James and Scott are the best things about this crap season so far.
I know, that was the whole point.Jesse's an attacking water carrier. Plays a different role to Mason.
Like comparing a Ford Transit van to a Range Rover.
That's the thing, though - I wasn't asking for him to come on to play as a midfielder.He’s not a midfielder, hence why he didn’t come on instead of Lingard in midfield.
True, but I think our attackers should offer more than just being able to press with decent intensity, and Lingard, aside from that, just doesn't offer anything else.I think Lingard offers more impetus, but Greenwood doesn't needlessly give the ball away like Lingard, and he has better end product. I also like Greenwood's passing better.
That's the thing, though - I wasn't asking for him to come on to play as a midfielder.
To the surprise of, well, not many I assume, we played a lot better with Greenwood in an attacking position ahead of a two man midfield compared to having Lingard in an advanced position ahead of said two man midfield.
True, but I think our attackers should offer more than just being able to press with decent intensity, and Lingard, aside from that, just doesn't offer anything else.
Scored, didn’t celebrate, just ran back to our half because wanted the game to restart ASAP so we could take the lead.
Elite mentality.
Not going to bet against that happening4 goals already this season with appearances only here and there. If he can get to 10 this season that would be pretty brilliant.