We've been missing him, it's a mystery why he doesn't play.
Martial | Di Marzio thinks he will stay
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It's a shame, I feel he could have become a great player at Old Trafford. Sadly, I think the damage has already been done. He's unlikely to participate at the world cup, and that will be the final nail in the coffin. People can use every argument they want to, Jose has screwed up on Martial. It's reached the point I'd be more surprised if he stayed than if he left. I think the Pogba rumors have been pretty silly, but Martial's make complete sense.
I will cry when he leaves.
Every manager, no matter how great they are, has their negatives. Martial may well be another victim of Mourinho and youth. Yeah go ahead and give me all the stats for starts Rashford made and what not. Martial was playing well. He bought in Sanchez and took his position.
Sorry my dear comrades. Martial says chuu!-chuu!, next stop: big club ready to exploit his potential to the maximum! We stand by with straight-backed salutes and watch as he disappears into stardom...
Made an impact today and it's clear that he gives us a different dimension. But he's lost all the confidence and momentum that he built up in the first half of the season, and had under LVG. Now he keeps putting the ball into the box instead of utilising his immense natural flair. Then again, thats always our tactic when were desperate.
Too true (even if I still think Martial isn't completely blameless either)
I don't think he's blameless either, I don't think Jose has a vendetta against him, but I do think he judges him differently (maybe to a higher standard), so whatever he sees in training maybe has an impact on his decision-making. However, you can't tell me the players who start week-in, week-out have shown themselves to be more deserving of it than Martial. Some are allows to have bad games, Martial doesn't get much leeway in the matter. It can work for some talented players who need to be pushed, but I don't think it works very well with Martial and I wish Jose would adapt to the player's personality, that's the mark of a great man-manager.
Thing is, Martial's most successful stints this season have come as a super-sub. Remember that spell at the beginning of the season, where him and Rashford were swapping back and forth as starters? It was usually the guy coming off the bench who impressed more, regardless of who it was. That alone is evidence that neither of them are ready to lead the line for us or be concrete starters at present. Now, don't get me wrong, Sanchez hasn't been lighting us up either but I wasn't someone who felt he was a necessary signing to begin with; I do agree with those posters who say that Sanchez's signing was the death-knoll for Martial at United. However, I don't agree with the sentiment that he's this unbelievable talent we'll regret losing forever and ever......for me, he's good with the potential to be extremely good. Not world-class, and I don't see future world-class in him either.
I'd rather he stay, but if he's made up his mind he'll have to go.
I'd rather he stay, but if he's made up his mind he'll have to go.
Mourinho is not the right manager for him. Good luck to him elsewhere.
The death of martial happened back when Jose gave ibrahimovic the number 9 shirt last season.
It's almost has nothing to do with Sanchez and the LW slot.
Why Jose is so adamant on sticking to one striker formations is beyond me
Martial, Rashford Lukaku, Sanchez, lingard are some ambidextrous group of players it's almost shooting our selves in the foot that they play such basic football by utilising single striker formations.
Completely bonkers.
Martial Lukaku
Sanchez
It really isn't that hard but Jose has to be one of the least flexible managers in terms of tactics I have ever seen. Not a game goes by without Drogba 2.0, Lampard 4.0 etc playing in the exact same formation.
There is nothing wrong with players like martial & Rashford- they just do not meet Jose's pre-made tactics that has almost no correlation of getting the best out of the squad that is at his disposal.
Very clear by the way he treats Rashford, martial, Blind, Shaw etc
It's almost has nothing to do with Sanchez and the LW slot.
Why Jose is so adamant on sticking to one striker formations is beyond me
Martial, Rashford Lukaku, Sanchez, lingard are some ambidextrous group of players it's almost shooting our selves in the foot that they play such basic football by utilising single striker formations.
Completely bonkers.
Martial Lukaku
Sanchez
It really isn't that hard but Jose has to be one of the least flexible managers in terms of tactics I have ever seen. Not a game goes by without Drogba 2.0, Lampard 4.0 etc playing in the exact same formation.
There is nothing wrong with players like martial & Rashford- they just do not meet Jose's pre-made tactics that has almost no correlation of getting the best out of the squad that is at his disposal.
Very clear by the way he treats Rashford, martial, Blind, Shaw etc
It sadly looks like a wrong fit for our current manager. Sometimes Mourinho's brutal tactic on players work and sometimes it doesn't. Looks like it hasn't with Martial. He'll miss the world cup squad and will probably leave in the summer
He's gonna clean up at Juve/Bayern. Absolutely clean up.
Make no mistake he's our Salah/De Bruyne. Jose can't help himself.
I'll be absolutely livid when he leaves. Such a frigging bitter pill to swallow, because he's ours and he will become world class.
Make no mistake he's our Salah/De Bruyne. Jose can't help himself.
I'll be absolutely livid when he leaves. Such a frigging bitter pill to swallow, because he's ours and he will become world class.
Would it be possible to ban the next person that mentions Salah and De Bruyne in the same sentence? Would it though? Would that be possible?
It should be as each one of them comes into here thinking they are offering some new clevel insight, tedious as feck.
I’m sure even Mourinho himself knows that letting Martial leave it a big risk due to his potential.
If martial leaves and becomes the next Robben or Salah, I don't think I can forgive Mourinho for that. Martial came on and was instantly a threat and actually controlled the ball unlike sanchez, who seems like he has Rooney ball control syndrome and kept losing the ball, but hey he runs around, positional lying in defensive play not much difference between the two.
He didn't exactly have a star role in France's run to the Euro final after that wonderful debut season with us under LVG. Payet in his place.
There's a reason he isn't getting the starting role . He will be a much better player by the next world cup. But it's clear he has a bit to grow yet despite having all the potential in the world .
I just hope he can be patient and stay with United.
If this is true, I'm glad we're getting rid of a prima Donna who plays for the shirt number, not the shirt.
You're also welcome to follow Martial to whatever club he goes to, this is Manchester United.
Cant believe Mourinho is letting another gem go, after Salah and KDB.
He will still stay IMO.
I bet Mourinho would've sold Hazard and brought Perisic by now, if he was still at Chelsea.
The man hates players that are too good.
All I will say is that selling him is a bad idea but if he is sold we must buy a new starting right winger cause feck me our right-hand side is abysmal and has been for so so many years.
If we sell Martial and bring in no attackers then that will confirm that Jose is insane haha
Hell even if we keep Martial we should buy a right-winger.
If we sell Martial and bring in no attackers then that will confirm that Jose is insane haha
Hell even if we keep Martial we should buy a right-winger.
The love in is reaching ridiculous levels here for Martial. He has been best whenever he has come off the bench. His decent run this season also had him coming off from the bench and he was poor when he started the games.
He must accept the competition for his role.
He must accept the competition for his role.
So tiring about hearing how Mourinho let KDB & Salah go. When he let these players “go”, were they an instant hit at their club? Or did they actually spend a few years playing themselves up to that level?
I think this is the point with Martial, he’s too inconsistent to stay full time in the starting 11. He needs more playing time. But if he gets that here, then all the fans are going to moan how Mourinho isn’t getting the results required!
Which way around would you prefer? Pick one & go with that...
I think this is the point with Martial, he’s too inconsistent to stay full time in the starting 11. He needs more playing time. But if he gets that here, then all the fans are going to moan how Mourinho isn’t getting the results required!
Which way around would you prefer? Pick one & go with that...
Thank you. Some ridiculous sentiments here, no? This thread is becoming one of the worst I've seen on this forum.
He is talented, but the team needs to be balanced. Once we have actual fullbacks he will likely start more often and have more freedom to play as he needs. For now, we need him to suck it up and put in a shift. Starting for United should not be taken for granted. I didn't see the furor when Alexis, a legitimate Superstar in playing and popularity terns, was benched .
KDB destroyed the bundesliga at Wolfsburg. Won them a cup, made Bayern his little boy. Salah went to Italy and had back to back fire-ball seasons with Florence and Rome. They haven't looked back since.
Before they were stuck with Jose, Salah was Basel's best player ever, and KDB made a case for himself at Bremen. He didn't give either player 6 months.
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Multiple papers saying Chelsea are trying to take him.
Cash plus William for Martial?
Surely we won't allow him to move to a PL rival?
How is putting the ball in the box a bad thing? That's what he's supposed to do when he plays there.
There is a good Chance of this happening
Can't see us selling him to Chelsea, we're not that stupid, yeah we're dense enough to let him leave, but it'll be abroad. Imagine having to watch him blossom at a rival, this place would crumble.
Letting martial leave while trying your best to keep fellaini is absolutely disgraceful.
There is zero chance he will leave for any club in England. If he leaves it will be abroad
Exactly.
We've only sold out of favour players to rivals and in case of Mkhi it was only because we were getting Alexis in return.
No chance of him going to Chelsea. Besides if he'll have the option of going to Bayern or Juve then why the feck would he go to a club without CL.
No thanks
This will go down like a sack of shit with the Old Trafford crowd, they match going fans absolutely love him. He's up there with De Gea and Herrera.
That said, even though we may regret it in a few years I don't think it's the most insane thing for us to sell him right now and instead focus on Sanchez and someone more consistent - he's had a lot of chances and never quite matched up to his reputation among the fans.
That said, even though we may regret it in a few years I don't think it's the most insane thing for us to sell him right now and instead focus on Sanchez and someone more consistent - he's had a lot of chances and never quite matched up to his reputation among the fans.
Jose has said he isn't against selling to rivals, and even that it should happen more often. As long as whoever wants him pays for Jose values him at, he could end up anywhere.