Yeah, we were so much worse off in the recent games against City, Liverpool and Spurs. Some of you need to wake up.
Martial | Di Marzio thinks he will stay
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Yeah, we were so much worse off in the recent games against City, Liverpool and Spurs. Some of you need to wake up.
1) it's a shirt number that is a direct representation of what Martial role in the squad has turned out to be- so unfortunately it is not just a switch of a shirt number
2) competition in the squad is healthy - Lukaku going months without scoring is just pure bias & inability to be flexible or to have the 'competition' in the squad you regard as healthy. Neither Rashford nor martial were strikers for us in games when we could have utilised them - possible due to Jose's lack of managerial capacity to get the best out of strikers thst are not of Drogba, Ibrahimpvic & Lukaku'said statures.
3) I'm talking about martial being better than Rashford when they were competing against each other for the same LW spot - not by pure coincidence
4) I don't for one second think we should miss out on Sanchez for the sake of martial however - Martial is a striker made to play in the LW role as a second option; so Sanchez doesn't really bother me at all; it's Jose's favouritism of Lukaku that was seen in January etc that simply cannot happen again.
5) Jose cannot have favouritism at a club at United without fans voicing their concern - this is a manager that is only here for short term success if that.
Rashford, Martial, Lukaku is a crazy combination of strikers - yet we go through the whole season with the mentality that we have one striker. That is Jose's doing & nothing to do with martial or Rashford'capability.
For example - Lukaku looks 3x the player playing as a RF than a St for me and works the channels well; however how hard is it to dash Rashford or martial or even Sanchez at LF ? They work the left channels well & are great forwards too. That would open up competition for 2 places across 4 forwards but will it happen? No because Lukaku is favouritism in a bottle as a single striker, needing a LW & a new RW to get the best out of him next season.
https://www.thenational.ae/sport/fo...ure-as-club-prepare-for-fa-cup-final-1.725506
I think Mitten is only speculating.
Mittens sources dried up years ago. He had access to some of the old boys and former United players through his grandads links but United’s long moved on since then.
Yeah, I agree. If Martial isn't signing a new contract then the club won't hang onto him. He's been an unused sub in three games recently so signs are that we're planning on the future without him.
Hopefully he signs one
I'll be surprised. He's behind Sanchez, Rashford, Lingard and Mata in the pecking order and will be lucky to get any minutes off the bench against Arsenal.
Im not optimistic but Im just living in hope.
He might not have sources but he keeps nailing interviews with club executives. They hardly give interviews to anyone else.
I’m a big fan of Martial and I think that selling him will be a huge mistake, but he shouldn’t be given any game time until he signs the contract. I’d rather we give pitch minutes to players that are 100% commited to the club.
The fact that he didn’t get a single fecking game as a striker during that period where Lukaku couldn’t even control the ball let alone score is damning on Mourinho.
Rashford and Martial should both be getting extra training to get them playing from the right. If one of them could adapt and nail down the right wing we’d be sorted in that position for years to come.
I’m right footed and used to play as a right winger and I’d score 25-30 goals a season bombing down the wing and cutting in. I just can’t understand how players that are infinitely better than I ever was can’t adapt to play from the right.
I’m right footed and used to play as a right winger and I’d score 25-30 goals a season bombing down the wing and cutting in. I just can’t understand how players that are infinitely better than I ever was can’t adapt to play from the right.
This.
Mitten is better placed to comment than anyone on Red Cafe. Still has plenty of access to the first team and is still in the know.
Best of luck Martial. Hope you become a man someday somewhere but I don't think you have it.
Sad if he leaves. So much potential and fits our usual forwards' MO of being a creep
Yeah, its a proper headscratcher that
We have sold far better players than him and still come out stronger. If the guy really doesn't want to fight for his place, then feck him.
For all the talk and hype about him, he's still a potential and nothing else.
For all the talk and hype about him, he's still a potential and nothing else.
Have you still got your boots? We need a 25 goal winger?
If he did then Lukaku wouldn't be in the squad now. He relies on confidence.
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I wasn’t even good enough for non league mate. Sunday league was my level.
What is the point of having other strikers then? It should all be about rotation.
We’ve already made the mistake in the past of playing Rooney because he’s Rooney, when he should have been dropped. We shouldn’t be making the same mistakes again with Lukaku.
If he’s not mentally strong enough to accept being dropped when he’s not scoring/playing well, then he shouldn’t be at a club like United.
I never understood this either. If you're right footed you should be able to play on the right wing. Besides, Jose doesn't play conventional right wingers; his right wingers always end up coming into central areas - just look at Lingard and Mata. We even played Ronaldo in that right forward role, cutting into the middle when he was here. If Martial cannot adjust his game and take that right forward spot then it's just too bad for him.
You can also add Ole to that list as well, played plenty of times on the right and he was also a forward.
Talented forwards/wingers should be able to play and do a good job anywhere across the front 3.
Talented forwards/wingers should be able to play and do a good job anywhere across the front 3.
JM and rotation
, dont be silly. When it comes to Lukaku, there plenty examples in the past, where rules arent the same for all players.I had the press conference and all booked
Lukaku shouldnt be one of them though. Hes not at that levelJM and rotation
I had the press conference and all booked
He'll be on the bench again today, and depending on how the game goes, he could remain on there for the whole game.
There is a difference between wide attacker and a midfielder, we play with almost box to box wingers where when the opposition has the ball they are in 5 meters to our fullbacks. Martial is an attacker, not a wide midfielder who runs box to box facing a full set defense every time he recieves the ball and sprints back too hes own box everytime the team loses the ball.
Looks like it's settled now doesn't it. Martial's not going to play enough between now and the end of the year to persuade him to resign. He's done here.
We should just accept it, stop squabbling with each other and move on. Let's hope the mourinho critics aren't saying 'i told you so' in a couple of years' time.
We should just accept it, stop squabbling with each other and move on. Let's hope the mourinho critics aren't saying 'i told you so' in a couple of years' time.
If there was "competition" for places he'd be staying. Competition would not mean losing your place after winning 3 matches in a row for your team and failing to get back in when your replacement stinks the place out for 7 games.
Had a dream Martial ran off with my fiancée. It was a nightmare, seeing as 2 people in my heart left. Woke up, felt weird so I no longer care if Martial leaves. If he really wants to then good riddance you wife-stealing piece of sh
I used to score 60 plus goals when played as a striker too-which shows how shockingly shit the league I played in was
The only player we have that is capable of dribbling past defenders, it would be one of the most stupid decisions to let him go.
Very positive when he came on.
Best player on the pitch once he subbed on.