Martial | Di Marzio thinks he will stay

That must be why he's thrived at Juventus under a classical italian manager. On my ignore list you go :)

So Juve don't keep the ball well? they're not Barca/Real but they're way more proficient than us in terms of moving the ball around at the highest level. You wouldn't look at Juve and think it is so easy to nick the ball of them i.e. they're hoof-merchants. They're a genuine top tier european outfit. Add yourself to the ignore list whilst you're at it.
 
That must be why he's thrived at Juventus under a classical italian manager. On my ignore list you go :)

:lol: How pathetic, adding someone to ignore because they have different opinion.
 
Would be incredibly disappointing to see him fulfill his potential elsewhere but after Sanchez's arrival it looks almost certain he won't get the chances required to do it with us so it's best for him to move on. Of course there's every chance he'll continue to be inconsistent with a new team but if anyone can get him to make the most of his talent he'll be a scary player, time will tell I suppose.
 
That's the downside of Mourinho's stability. He'll leave us in a year or two and we'd have to replace half the squad again.
 
Actually i have mixed feelings about this new, of course it's sad when seeing the club losing such a talent but in the other hand, maybe that move is necessary for Martial's career after Sanchez incident. In the end of the day, i have a chance to examine my evaluation about the player whom i think having everything to become a world beater, which i will never know if he stays and keeps sticking with current situation or if he leaves too late.

Will United become weaker after his departure? I dont think so. Sanchez is a class ahead of him at this moment and is suiting Jose's philosophy. Obviously Sanchez isnt a long term future like Martial but after him, i bet Jose will have no problem finding a proper replacement on the left, maybe Rashford, maybe someone else but one thing certainly there will be a player who is more suited for his football system than Martial.

Martial has a chance to prove himself and United have a decent amount of money to re-invest instead of an expensive bench warmer. Maybe this is a win-win deal and good for both
 
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Martial has all the tools to be the next Hazard, Sanchez, Neymar. He had 1 decent season playing consistently as a wide forward. Since then he's been wasted as a winger jerked in and out of the squad for whatever reason. Don't see how anyone would perform in conditions like that.

I'd fire Mourinho in a heartbeat and keep Martial. You can always find another mediocre coach, a generational talent is worth far more. To think we're playing the likes of Rashford, Lingard, and Mata over him is going to seem so idiotic when someone snaps him up for cheap and builds him into a star.
 
:lol: How pathetic, adding someone to ignore because they have different opinion.

My favourite part is that people almost always have to tell the other person they’re going on ignore because they have to have to last word.
 
ah so the people who were saying otherwise. Where are they?
You mean those deluded experts who claimed he was never gonna leave? They are on this thread peddling the same falsehood as you'd expect.

I wish it was normal to call people out on their bullshit.
 
I'll preface this post by saying that I like Martial, he seems like a decent guy off the field and there is a good player in there, somewhere.

That's it though - he's a good player with occasional and fleeting moments of brilliance.

If he put in the performances we all think he is capable of on a regular (or even semi regular basis) then he would be playing ahead of Sanchez and Rashford, guaranteed.

He hasn't made the position his own, and hasn't been able to consistently get picked above Rashford or Sanchez, despite them having their own issues on the pitch. If he hasn't the will to fight for a regular place in the team and would rather move on, then so be it.

I honestly wonder how much of the hype when he broke through was because he was seemingly the only attacking, direct player in a team that played negative, safe football under LvG for the most part - he was at least trying to do all the things that we wanted to see from the team, and scored a few important goals in the process. That made him the obvious stand out (in spite of and because of his age).

Now he's in a team with more attacking players, and arguably much bigger personalities, his quality doesn't stand out anywhere near as much.

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I also meant to add that in response to the accusations of inconsistency (IE, Martial being dropped after a bad game, as opposed to Sanchez getting 2 months to play through his poor form) - we don't see what happens in training. If (as I expect) Martial struts around the pitch, sulking, and not making himself available for the ball (as we see in games quite often), whilst Sanchez and Rashford run around putting a decent shift in, getting involved with the team and trying to make things happen (as we also see in games quite often) then who would you pick for matchday XIs really?
 
My favourite part is that people almost always have to tell the other person they’re going on ignore because they have to have to last word.
I didn't told him.
 
Martial has all the tools to be the next Hazard, Sanchez, Neymar. He had 1 decent season playing consistently as a wide forward. Since then he's been wasted as a winger jerked in and out of the squad for whatever reason. Don't see how anyone would perform in conditions like that.

I'd fire Mourinho in a heartbeat and keep Martial. You can always find another mediocre coach, a generational talent is worth far more. To think we're playing the likes of Rashford, Lingard, and Mata over him is going to seem so idiotic when someone snaps him up for cheap and builds him into a star.
This post says so much!
 
United offered him a contract, a payrise and probably telling him he is needed, hence the contract offer. He is saying no, if he wanted to stay and cared about the club he would stay.
Can we come out of this illusion that players would stay by default if they care about the club . Except for us fans, no one fecking cares .
A player want assurances on his game time and rightly so. Jose shafted him to bench for Sanchez despite having a better season than Sanchez. Not saying , he is a better player than Sanchez but he doesn't deserve to be dropped. This is on Jose 100%
 
My favourite part is that people almost always have to tell the other person they’re going on ignore because they have to have to last word.

Exactly.

Do we have a thread btw, where posters reveal who all are on ignore list?
 
Well the press have made sure we cannot enjoy the derby win by shit stirring again haven't they and cause in house. Well done media.
 
He’ll develop into a monster player with a coach who believes in him. This will look ridiculous in a few years time.
 
:lol: How pathetic, adding someone to ignore because they have different opinion.

Well no, that wasn't a different opinion, it was just plain wrong.

Bear in mind that I already had Raees on my ignore list, and then took him off because I forgot why I put him on there. I was swiftly reminded why.
 
This is understandable from Martial's point of view. Hopefully we sell him to a non-elite club and can squeeze in a buyback clause.
 
I still have a feeling Griezmann is on the cards.

I hope so. I heard from a friend who works at the club (and since in the press) that Griezmann was all agreed verbally and everyone at the club thought he was coming last summer, but he backed out after the transfer ban. Maybe it was just temporary.
 
If he leaves we will regret it massively. The kid has his whole career ahead of him and is destined to be a world beater, not to mention all the qualities he has already shown during his time here. If this news is true then Mourinho is about to repeat the same mistakes as with KDB and Salah :mad:
 
In 15/16 under LvG, Martial played 4663 minutes.

Since that in almost 2 seasons he's played 4599 minutes.
Indeed. Credit to Mourinho for managing to sign us some top attacking talent so that we didn't have to rely solely on a pair of teenagers and a has-been any more.
 
If he leaves.. it would make sense to me from a team standpoint. We've got one too many left wing attackers after signing Sanchez and we need to strengthen that right wing which has been non-existant for years and years, and if that means getting rid of someone who may or may not become a great player then so be it. Who's to say that the guy we replace him with won't be even better AND play in a position we desperately need to reinforce?
 
Well the press have made sure we cannot enjoy the derby win by shit stirring again haven't they and cause in house. Well done media.
Exactly this. I don't think we would be stupid enough to sell him and don't think he particularly wants out either.

But no, because this is a French journalist, it is 110% true.
 
I bet he becomes I great player somewhere else.

So what?

I mean, I agree with you but how is that relevant?

Football is not going to stop in 2019. If we do sell Martial we will be able to replace him sooner or later.

We've sold other players that were more central to the way we played and replaced them. Its not the apocalypse.
 
This is understandable from Martial's point of view. Hopefully we sell him to a non-elite club and can squeeze in a buyback clause.
Buyback clause :lol: He'd more likely go to City or Liverpool in the future than choosing to go back to us if he becomes good enough.
 
Martial has all the tools to be the next Hazard, Sanchez, Neymar. He had 1 decent season playing consistently as a wide forward. Since then he's been wasted as a winger jerked in and out of the squad for whatever reason. Don't see how anyone would perform in conditions like that.

I'd fire Mourinho in a heartbeat and keep Martial. You can always find another mediocre coach, a generational talent is worth far more. To think we're playing the likes of Rashford, Lingard, and Mata over him is going to seem so idiotic when someone snaps him up for cheap and builds him into a star.

You are spot on. In a year or 2 the people on this forum with no patience (and who constantly want new signings) will be as sick as the Chelsea fans are about Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah.
 
Well no, that wasn't a different opinion, it was just plain wrong.

Bear in mind that I already had Raees on my ignore list, and then took him off because I forgot why I put him on there. I was swiftly reminded why.
This is a bit rich coming from you considering how shit of a poster you are. @Raees is easily one of the best posters on this forum. Even the vast majority of people who do not share his views can attest to this.
 
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Young players who were bought by JM > young player who was there before JM.

Right ok… so he has no problem with young players, just a completely irrational dislike of young players he didn't buy himself?

Hmmmm, I wonder if it's just the fact that he buy young players (Lukaku, Pogba, Bailly) with a certain style and attitude rather than you know, being a daft cnut who hates young players he didn't sign himself despite how incredible they are?
 
Martial has all the tools to be the next Hazard, Sanchez, Neymar. He had 1 decent season playing consistently as a wide forward. Since then he's been wasted as a winger jerked in and out of the squad for whatever reason. Don't see how anyone would perform in conditions like that.

I'd fire Mourinho in a heartbeat and keep Martial. You can always find another mediocre coach, a generational talent is worth far more. To think we're playing the likes of Rashford, Lingard, and Mata over him is going to seem so idiotic when someone snaps him up for cheap and builds him into a star.

Right :wenger:

'Another mediocre coach' but we dont have that at the moment. We have a world class one and a proven winner.
'Generational talent' but Martial hasnt proved thathe is one. Yeah hes a good player with good dribbling skills but a tad overrated in here and he hasnt demonstrated to have the mentality to be a winner in the game. So youre saying your rather keep players like Martial who can get you out of your seat once every three weeks nd sign a manager like Sam allardyce or something, and thats your secret sauce to get back at the top?

Theres so much wrong with your post.