Martial | Di Marzio thinks he will stay
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Would I be disappointed if he left? Of course but the club will move on without him. He's largely been inconsistent this season and hasn't turned up when needed, we need players that will fight until the end and dig deep when needed, his personality strikes me that he's not the type.
Jesus, the meltdown in here
Look at the topic from another standpoint. We can use Martial to get other more needed players. Deal with Bayern/Thiago, Atletico/Saul/Koke, Juve/Dybala. And use our initial budget for fullbacks, CB and whatever we still need by then.
Look at the topic from another standpoint. We can use Martial to get other more needed players. Deal with Bayern/Thiago, Atletico/Saul/Koke, Juve/Dybala. And use our initial budget for fullbacks, CB and whatever we still need by then.
No, I think that also counts some games for Monaco.
Does include a few Ligue 1 games because he joined on deadline. He was pretty much one of the first names on the sheet after he ruined Liverpool in his debut.
He's a good player, but he's pretty far from being world class at the moment. Good dribbling technique and a good shot doesn't automatically take you to the highest level, and we really need top quality on our wings. I think he's one of those players, like Salah and KDB, that it would be better to go elsewhere as he's just not good enough for us at the moment, and like those two regular playing time elsewhere could help him.
So I wouldn't mind us selling him really, but only if that means we get top quality on our right side as a replacement.
So I wouldn't mind us selling him really, but only if that means we get top quality on our right side as a replacement.
Only realistic transfer there is Juve / Dybala and I am not even sure if Dybala would fit hereJesus, the meltdown in here
Look at the topic from another standpoint. We can use Martial to get other more needed players. Deal with Bayern/Thiago, Atletico/Saul/Koke, Juve/Dybala. And use our initial budget for fullbacks, CB and whatever we still need by then.
I wonder are some fans more supporting of Martial than United?
I mean FFS I'll be disappointed if he goes but we will be alright.
I mean FFS I'll be disappointed if he goes but we will be alright.
Mourinho gave him a contract, probably an increase in salary showing that he is wanted here. He is rejecting the club on his own terms.
Well you got to be patient with young players.
If he sells Martial then Mourinho can feck off too.
Well what a surprise if true, fecking joke, to bad he isnt 28/29 year old. Then in JM world you can suck @SS as much as you want, wont change a thing when it comes to playing minutes.
So he was looking really good, we bought Sanchez and boom he got shafted instantly on right ( where is at least half of player ), which after his performance/s on the right was used to be dropped. Similar how Rashford got fecked after scoring 2 goals vs Liverpool, at least he sticks to his patterns.
During this period where young guns were shafted on their weaker position so he could fit his new senior player, Sanchez looked lost on left, didnt even look close to good at all. That didnt matter tho, because same rules arent applied to everyone. Similar can be said for Shaw when Young came back from suspension/injury, Darmian taking minutes of Axel/TFM so they went to loan etc.
Wonder will he go all hard on to convince Martial to sign up new contract how he is done for Afroman, kinda doubt it. So yea, feck his "if you are old enough, you are good enough" bullshit.
So he was looking really good, we bought Sanchez and boom he got shafted instantly on right ( where is at least half of player ), which after his performance/s on the right was used to be dropped. Similar how Rashford got fecked after scoring 2 goals vs Liverpool, at least he sticks to his patterns.
During this period where young guns were shafted on their weaker position so he could fit his new senior player, Sanchez looked lost on left, didnt even look close to good at all. That didnt matter tho, because same rules arent applied to everyone. Similar can be said for Shaw when Young came back from suspension/injury, Darmian taking minutes of Axel/TFM so they went to loan etc.
Wonder will he go all hard on to convince Martial to sign up new contract how he is done for Afroman, kinda doubt it. So yea, feck his "if you are old enough, you are good enough" bullshit.
I rate Martial but I’m not gonna have a meltdown if he leaves. He’s shown his potential but not at a consistency where he should be starting every game for me. If he wants out to get more game time then good luck to him.
Not gonna beat Jose over it, he’s hardly been treated badly.
Not gonna beat Jose over it, he’s hardly been treated badly.
Martial is one of the most passive players in the team, generally on the fringes of games and then comes to life with a piece of magic. He's one of the fastest players in the team, yet also one of the most likely to come short for the ball instead of running behind a defence.
Martial is also not a heavy presser, and his tracking back is a bit half arsed.
These above reason are why I have a different view on Martial than others. Talent is not enough for me, you also have to help make the team function better. Dybala is just as talented as Martial, but is much more involved in the team.
The club offered him the contract, not Mourinho.
United offered him a contract, a payrise and probably telling him he is needed, hence the contract offer. He is saying no, if he wanted to stay and cared about the club he would stay.
We can try to convince him about his future at the club. We can try to show him he is wanted. But beyond that, we wouldn't want to keep a player who wants out desperately. If he still wants out, we put him out on the market at the usual price that is demanded for a very young striker with loads of potential. Could be 70M or 100M or whatever.
If someone pays, they take him. Else he sticks around here till his stock falls.
We should not sell him for 30-40M and definitely not to clubs in the league.
If someone pays, they take him. Else he sticks around here till his stock falls.
We should not sell him for 30-40M and definitely not to clubs in the league.
Seemed to have no issues playing Bailly (22), despite his age. He also had no problem buying and playing a 23 year old Pogba. The other players have all had their chances, none has produced anything remotely close to a performance like Sanchez versus City.
You can strive to be the best, or you can be a nice club that let's young players get away with anything. I know which I'd prefer.
Delighted with Martial's decision. Delghted for him.
I don't mind if we have been offered for Martial, this probably cases where Mourinho knew he could use Martial's sales to spend on the right wing.
Martialcafe does not like this one bit
You're in for a huge surprise if you think Dybala's passiveness compares to Martial's. Martial isn't a Rashford off the ball, agreed but he's still a supreme ball-carrier and looks to take the game to the opposition more often than not, especially this year. He can eat up yards with the ball. Different type of player to Dybala.
Dybala is more a drifting around, playmaker/forward who can be very passive and very rarely goes for the jugular in terms of transforming passive possession inside your own half into a killer counter-attacking situation on his own. He's more of a team-player agreed. He's more like a Mata and sort of player who'd thrive under a more technical possession-based coach but sort of big name who would be a luxury at United. He's a more smarter player than Martial at this moment in time, but we are not the right club for him.
Yep.
A lot of people 'give a feck'. I wouldn't have sold Rooney or Ronaldo either in their inconsistent phase. It also remains to be see how well Sanchez does for us. He's been okay so far and great in the last game.
If my memory serves me right, Martial only played half of season under LvG right?
Not in France, there is no big coverage of United. Remember that United are the most popular club in the world outside of traditional football countries. Football countries have their own clubs to vilify and dramatize.
At his age he needs to play week in week out. He won't get that at United. We'll just probably have to watch him develop somewhere else.
What a fecking week to post such a thing
We have some shit fans we do. Martial FC.
yeah its definitely tipped way over the edge of "wanting a talented young player to do well" to "Feck everyone and everything he must be played no matter how he performs - Jose out"
Well he wasn't beaten up or anything. But unfairly perhaps?
Whenever Martial had a bad game, he'd find himself on the bench next game. He then went on to have very good run in November/December, only for us to sign Sanchez in January and give him Martial's spot.
Then Sanchez proceeded to be, quite frankly, shit for the next two months yet retain his place. A luxury never afforded to Martial.
I'm not gonna lose my shit if Martial leaves either. But I certainly see different treatment towards different players from Mourinho. I don't think these two genuinely got along from the start. It was inevitable that they would part ways at some point.
I understand it on one hand, and not on the other.
Sanchez is definitely an improvement on Martial, and I don't think Martial would've been able to produce what Sanchez produced in the second half against City (for example) but in terms of building for the future, Martial's potential is very high.
Well he moved in January and was always going to take a while to get going. I'm sure you'd agree it would be bizzare to extrapolate from the little we've seen (you should be fair and weight recent performances higher in which case he's on a great trajectory).
Of course, Gomes and Perreira are risks. So is Martial. If Martial was a huge huge talent that isn't so common then I'd agree in keeping him as replacing Sanchez will prove difficult. However he's a mane, sane, dembele (Lemar and malcom) sort of level. These talents appear quite frequently it seems and then you also have the types who explode on the scene later in their careers like Mahrez.
*Lemar and Malcom in brackets because their talent is very high but they're in the French league still.
No that's Rashford who only started from February.
Martial joined in the summer close to deadline, and scored against Liverpool in his debut.
I reckon Rooney with his early maturation would have been fine under Jose. Ronaldo though.. no chance he'd have thrived under Jose. Would have been a personality and culture clash - just like it was at Real but even worse as Ronaldo wasn't as productive.
Do you even know difference between Martial vs Pogba/Bailly?
If this happens then I will not be happy with Mourinho at all.
I can understand Martial wanting to leave though. He needs to play more.
I can understand Martial wanting to leave though. He needs to play more.
Like Chelsea and City eh? The teams who are winning titles.
That must be why he's thrived at Juventus under a classical italian manager. On my ignore list you go
He cares about playing. Signing a contract and taking a payrise doesn't mean that you care about club, it can easily mean that you care about money, particularly when you are 22 and isn't playing enough.
If he does go I hope it's either on loan or with a buy back clause. We can't afford to lose his talent and to protect ourselves from a KDB/Salah situation in the future. I can totally understand him wanting him more gametime and signing Sanchez in his position when he was on top form was probably the final straw. I can't really blame him but we must keep hold of his talent.
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NO!! the club will close down for business if he leaves and he will overshadow Messi and Ronaldo. One thing is for sure If he doesn't then I will be nowhere to be seen!