Please go, Anthony
Martial agent looking for a new club for him
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Even if you want to exclude the logic of using that 250k p/w to help us to give Pogba new contract. There is still another logic you can have a look at, for instance, we have better chance for Pogba to signs a new contract if we sell Martial as it allows us to buy CM/DM to improve XI which improve us as a team and push Pogba to play on the left producing so many assists for Ronaldo which all of these increase our chances to win major trophy and lead to Pogba's decision to stay.
i'm just baffled how Martial and Jesse made it thru this window without being sold or at least sent out on loan. I'd rather give the young players the opportunity to train and play wiht the first team instead of those two houseplants
Down to the manager. Anyone with a vision would have sold at least one of them. Both may be overkill but there's simply too many players in attack right now and they won't get gametime (without even factoring in youth products who should see cup games).
Would have? Ole sidelines them, for the most part, and sales/ loans aren’t his responsibility.
That’s just not true. You just need to see the Mourinho era to find out why it’s not true. Is he lazy? Is he not always putting the best effort? Absolutely. But does he have no fight in him? You don’t come at 19 years old being ridiculed as a waste of money before your very first game at one of the biggest clubs in the world and have a season like he did or his comeback from Mou’s management.
There’s plenty of criticisms that can be leveled at Martial, but when I read he has no fight/heart, I think he’s definitely proven that’s not true. He has it in him, now will he show it? That’s another story unfortunately at this point.
I don’t know if this is Ole’s sole call but I agree with the implication of your statement - that Ole is kind of insecure that way - likes to hoard players I guess for that “rainy day”. With James gone I guess there’s a case for Martial staying but his value is sinking especially in this state where clubs just can’t pay the transfer fees and wages of someone like Martial. We are probably stuck with him for this year. It certainly doesn’t look like Jadon coming in and Rashford being hurt is driving him to make a claim for a starting spot.
I'm not implying that, or anything else for that matter. I just can't make sense of it.
Hope his agent is putting in a bit more effort than Martial does on the pitch or he will still be at OT when his pension is due.
@Esquire @justsomebloke we've been hoarding players for long before Ole got here and we'll be doing it long into the future. We've basically ended up giving away Andreas, we ended up giving away Marcos Rojo, Alexis, we'll end up giving away others. We renew contracts of broken down players 'to protect value.' Its the club's policy to hold onto players in the hope of some fantasy fee payer appearing. Look what we did with Darmian. Years after publicly expressing we would let him go we were still holding on hoping someone would come in and pay us big bucks.
The people who run this club will hold on to Martial into the final year of his deal, then renew it like they did with Bailly, hoping for a sale fee. Just look at Lingard. One year left on his deal. He'll get a new one, just like Matic, just like Mata. Because the guys who run United always think some sap will come in and meet their valuation. They're happy to just clog up the wage bill with people who virtually never play, just in the hope of a transfer fee. Phil Jones, who is almost always injured, got a new four year deal out of our senior management.
Martial will be here for years to come unless he decides to push for the exit.
The people who run this club will hold on to Martial into the final year of his deal, then renew it like they did with Bailly, hoping for a sale fee. Just look at Lingard. One year left on his deal. He'll get a new one, just like Matic, just like Mata. Because the guys who run United always think some sap will come in and meet their valuation. They're happy to just clog up the wage bill with people who virtually never play, just in the hope of a transfer fee. Phil Jones, who is almost always injured, got a new four year deal out of our senior management.
Martial will be here for years to come unless he decides to push for the exit.
Why are people thinking it's Ole fault Martial and Lingard still here? If no one comes in with an offer then they can't fecking leave 
Why are people thinking it's Ole fault Martial and Lingard still here? If no one comes in with an offer then they can't fecking leave
There are reports today that he doesn't want to sell Martial, and prefers to keep Lingard. The latter reported earlier as well. Might be false, of course.
Some sound like they'd be happy with a squad of 20Why are people thinking it's Ole fault Martial and Lingard still here? If no one comes in with an offer then they can't fecking leave
Selling this guy has to be a priority now. His wages are substantial and moving him on does actually move the needle a little in terms of lower our wage bill. In a strange way, if he does well and recover some of his goal scoring form, that may make it easier to move him on.
I think he could do well in a different team where the presume may be lower.
I think he could do well in a different team where the presume may be lower.
A club the size of United has to hedge some players in case this & that, fully understandable. But then they also say we will buy only of we sell. Most would agree if that's the case, we desperately need a DM. No real point having players rot on a bench if we can swap for a useful one, per above.Some sound like they'd be happy with a squad of 20
Thankfully Ole is smarter than the haters here.
His wages are partly why he won't go anywhere.
Think of the clubs that, in recent past, have been linked with Martial. How many of them can afford upwards of £200k a week.
Even if he does recover his goalscoring form very few clubs are going to meet his wage demands and also pay Man Utd a very big transfer fee. We will either have to compromise on the fee or he will sit at Old Trafford collecting cheques until he's arsed enough to leave.
Jorge Mendes brokering PSG deal for Man Utd star
https://www.football365.com/news/man-utd-martial-to-psg-jorge-mendes
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Good post and agreed. Just hope Murtaugh (sp?) and Fletcher will act as brakes to this insane “value protection” strategy. But even if you say this has gone on before OGS, I still say Ole has not been brave enough in this regard. Lingard definitely needs to go on loan or be sold. Why on earth Mata is still in the squad is beyond me.
Going to be a disappointing window now Martial is staying. Still hopefully we wont see him on the field and can get rid in January
Trust me mate, Murtough and Fletcher are powerless. Their job is to sell the 'vision' to prospective signings and deal with the stuff the suits don't want to e.g., recruit for the women's team and the youth set up.
Woodward and Judge still do the bulk of actual negotiating with senior players. The Murtough thing is just PR.
The 'value protection' strategy will not change because Woodward is going to be replaced as CEO by Richard Arnold and he'll continue where Woodward left off.
Could Ole be stronger? Possibly. But we'll never know what constraints he's working under because Ole will never air the clubs dirty laundry in public.
Its bizarre how United operates. The people at the top are so tight about tiny things like investing in Carrington. However, they will happily waste millions of pounds every month on goalkeepers who not only never play but never have a chance of playing!
The media is constantly briefed that there's no space on the wage bill for a new midfielder, as if the club was forced to renew Bailly, Mata and Lee Grant this summer. Take their wages, combine it and low and behold you can afford a new midfielder. Its crazy how this club operates. Honest to God, between those three players do we even think they'll get two dozen appearances in all competitions this season? What a massive waste of new contracts.
You think of United in the past. Do you remember Bryan Robson getting a nice goodbye or Steve Bruce? Once you're time was up it was up. No matter how legendary you had been. Now we're holding on for dear life to players because 'value.' The people running the club just don't know how to judge the value of footballers. That's how you end up with Bruno Fernandes on about the same wage as Phil Jones.
James has gone. Rashford is injured and had surgery. Amad is injured. We only have Sancho and Greenwood and Mason is not very good on the left. Ronnie is not going to play on the left because now he is not going to track back. It's prudent of Ole to keep him for now.
Judging by the lack of interest Martial's agent is as lazy as his client.
If he's on a percentage of his wages, no reason to get him a move?
"Non, merci. I'm 'appy sitting on the bench"
Absolutely ridiculous he’s still here. Picking up a huge wage to be 4th choice winger and 4th choice striker.
Well he'd have to play every week so not surprising he turned it down.
He will be important for us this year. Think Rashford will play more on the right this year and Tony will be used as the first option off the bench to play on the left. He usually isn’t good off the bench but he will have to be. He’s such a frustrating player because the year before last you could make the argument he was the best forward in the league, and then has been crap since. Hopefully for our sake he rediscovers his form.
At 250k/w and with his attitude, hell yeah. We'll probably keep him as any type of move will have us paying half his salary and he's still good enough to be a fringe player that we keep around for squad depth.
Our mistake for giving him that contract after 1 goodish season in his 4th year here, not his.
At this point, I don't even know how many clubs would provide him enough playing time and paying 125K/week for him. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's definitely not going to be easy, and he'd have to agree to it as well. Just get this feeling he's going to be very difficult to move but he would probably be better off considering it.
Swap for Saul... same wages
The club should deal with him like any underperforming staff member. Get him on an action plan with a set of Opta stats expected from him in every training session or game. If he doesnt start running then we can give him notice and manage him out of the club..
TBf he’s looked better coming on for 15-25 minutes than he has done in nearly 15 months. So maybe he will be good in that role
I think our only chance to sell him is if PSG sells Mbappé and goes for a new french player - they got money and he'd do well there.
Personally would like to see him gone.
Personally would like to see him gone.
It's well apparent that he has no appetite to push himself, to make himself a better player. So he'll just sit on the bench and get paid then throw in the odd performance.
The agent who was supposed to be looking for a new club for him has to be the shittest agent in history
Been given the number 9 shirt by France after Giroud didn't get called up.
Well I don’t blame him for the club being stupid enough to pay him insane wages. But what I do blame him for is that once he got his new contract he completely flopped. It’s clear this guy is not motivated by footballing success. People say well Berbatov was not a hard runner and appeared lackadaisical. That is the worse comparison ever as Berba clearly cared and was way more consistent. It’s sad really Martial’s talent really could have translated into a top 10 player in Europe. Don’t think he will get there now.