Is there any substance to the agent looking for a new club or has this just become the kick Martial thread?
Martial agent looking for a new club for him
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Everton would be a great fit and more his level in my opinion. Could play every week too.
DCL and Richarlison are both better
I think the likely reality is that none of the clubs who can afford him need him right now. A lot of the big continental sides are flat broke right now, so its become a largely moot point.
If Richarlison leaves for PSG there's an opening, I probably should have mentioned that's the key part behind my thinking.
This guy hates competition for his spot in the team, its no coincidence his best spells have been when is basically the only option for his role and then when other players come in to challenge his spot he wilts.
He was already up against it with Greenwood's strong start and Cavani still to come, but the signing of Ronaldo is the death knell his time here. His performances will continue to be poor and he'll be gone in the next 12 months.
He was already up against it with Greenwood's strong start and Cavani still to come, but the signing of Ronaldo is the death knell his time here. His performances will continue to be poor and he'll be gone in the next 12 months.
Hopefully he stays. Our attacking depth is finally quality. Probably the best it's been since 08/09, though not on that level.
He's the type of player Newcastle would have signed in the 90's. They'd love him over there, he'd be an instant legend.
I find it really strange that Juve didn’t take him in return/exchange for Ronaldo.
He seems like the ideal fit for them. Vice versa too. Martial would’ve gotten a lot of playing time.
He seems like the ideal fit for them. Vice versa too. Martial would’ve gotten a lot of playing time.
I don't think there's a top club in Europe that rates him...
I would send Martial back to Monaco where he had success, in exchange for Tchouameni.
And then our transfer window will be complete.
And then our transfer window will be complete.
Are you going to cover the first 200k a week of his wages? Otherwise Monaco can't afford him. Do fans genuinely not realise players earn wages?
With wages, there are two possibilites.
If he wants to play, he'll need to take a pay cut OR he has his 1st year salary partially paid by United (just to get this transfer done with).
If he doesn't, then good luck to him sitting in the bench and passing water bottles to outfielders.
Loan + obligation to buy is reasonable. I think he'd be great in Ligue 1.
If he wants to play, he'll need to take a pay cut OR he has his 1st year salary partially paid by United (just to get this transfer done with).
If he doesn't, then good luck to him sitting in the bench and passing water bottles to outfielders.
Loan + obligation to buy is reasonable. I think he'd be great in Ligue 1.
We should if we were to offload our overpaid deadwood. A couple million here and there certainly adds up.
Thing is though he's been the main striker for Man Utd and looks like he can't be arsed and mopes around the pitch.
Can you imagine how low his energy and effort will be if he goes to Everton?
He doesn't strike me as the sort to knuckle down and try and prove Utd wrong for getting rid of him .
I do want to see Ronaldo having a go at him after an inevitable failed goal chance.
An optimistic point of view might be that Ronaldo’s added presence opens up some space for Martial to operate in and be more effective if he plays on the wing. We all know his dribbling ability is right up there on his day.
For a player whos had one bad season and is 22 goals away from hitting the 100 club for united, all while spending half his United career on the wing or bench. The hate/unappreciation he receives on this forum by some is insane.
Truth is he will get enough minutes at the club - some of our fanbase need their brain checked. I've supported players like Rooney who had more than his fair share of Goal shy seasons at United (sometimes when we really needed him to step up and he didn't). Why because it's something proper fans do.
Coincedentally I've realised that it's more the internet than match going fans. ALL of the convos I had about him at the Leeds game, were fans hoping he can turn it around as opposed to the "get rid" of the WiFi fans.
I just hope the players understand that it's a really small portion who are just really loud.
Truth is he will get enough minutes at the club - some of our fanbase need their brain checked. I've supported players like Rooney who had more than his fair share of Goal shy seasons at United (sometimes when we really needed him to step up and he didn't). Why because it's something proper fans do.
Coincedentally I've realised that it's more the internet than match going fans. ALL of the convos I had about him at the Leeds game, were fans hoping he can turn it around as opposed to the "get rid" of the WiFi fans.
I just hope the players understand that it's a really small portion who are just really loud.
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Rooney scored 15 or more goals 11 out of his 13 seasons at the club.
Martial scored 15 or more 2 out of 6 seasons.
Martial averaged 13 goal a season at United and 4 assists.
Rooney averaged 19 goals a season and 11 assists.
That’s before you even get to Romney’s tenacity and work rate compared to Martial’s lethargy and skulking. It’s a silly comparison.
One bad season for feck sake.
Great first season
Shite second season,
Up and Down third season, arrival of Sanchez seemed to piss him off royally and he didn't score a goal from January until the end of the season.
Mixed 4th season, best period of form in the season weirdly was when Mourinho was on the verge of getting sacked, after Ole came in he wasn't anything great.
Great 5th season, particularly after lockdown
Diabolical 6th season.
And he was woeful again on Sunday.
I couldn't believe you typed this I'm going to screen shot this. This modern flimsy stat worshipping fan is EXACTLY my point!
If you felt this helped your argument I cannot believe this, but that's the problem with modern stats guys.
Nobody comparing Martial's and Rooney's ability directly (they played in different teams, different times, different managers), the point of the post is to highlight support! He has contributed positively to United no matter what you think, and that's a fact. He wouldn't be closr to a ton otherwise (He's made our top 20 Goalscorers ever (16th) for a reason).
Fans "in the real world" who I've had the pleasure of supporting with over the years; have stuck by the Luis Saha's of the world, Alan Smith, Dimitar Berbatov and yes Wayne Rooney (the only one above Martial since you love stats so much) who all went through some very difficult periods. All different playing styles still stuck by em.
But since coming out of lockdown and no longer have to support the club online as much anymore; there's always that positive.
Thank God Ole is not as thickle as our fanbase.
Get a grip mate. Martial contributes nothing to our team other than stats every other season. He’s a waste of space the rest of the time.
All the players you mentioned in your post were better than Martial. They could all hack it at the top, albeit to some limited capacity, unfortunately Martial can not. He's good for top 6 but not top 4 or the CL. His stats when United have been at that expectation level back that up, regardless of whether or not you think people are using the stats to judge him. It's not even like watching him live will help you form a better opinion of him either...
I agree fans are fickle and Martial gets undue criticism for his appearance, but your comparison did you no favours. Rooney never had a season like Martial’s last year. The conditions were set for him to thrive and he flopped. He lost his chance and two old heads have kicked him out of the team. Comparing that to anything Rooney did is nuts. And I like Martial.
Get a grip. Martial is a fairweather player and even when he's good he's nowhere near Rooney's quality. He's been poor for United given the money spent and the faith shown and I've genuinely no idea how you could think otherwise.
Juve is looking for a striker.
Rooney also played upfront for the majority of his career here tbf, Martials’s olued upfront for about 2 seasons I believe. Not that I’m trying to say Martial’s in the same league as Rooney but like @MasterCode said, the pure hatred Martial gets from a lot of people on this forum is very weird. He’s never disrespected the club or the fans, so I don’t know why he warrants such disdain, bar not being good enough.
Has he gone yet
And not trying hard enough, tbf. He looks uninterested, aloof and like he doesn't give a toss a lot of the time. You can forgive people for cutting him less slack than most.
That rules out Martial then.
That was the hope pre-Ronaldo. Circumstances change. I'd gladly see the back of Martial now if it means we strengthen our midfield while being sufficiently prudent with our finances.
Despite Martial probably being available, Juventus have signed Kean...
That says it all really
That says it all really
If there was some sort of swap deal for a quality midfielder, it'd be a great move all round.
But these swap deals are so rare
But these swap deals are so rare
I think a lot of people judge him on his demeanour to be honest, he seems pretty reserved which to some translates to not caring. And even so, it’s fair enough to call him lazy, but that still doesn’t warrant a lot of the personal abuse he gets. Despite what people think, he’s actually achieved more for this club than a lot of others, surely that warrants an ounce of respect.
I don’t think it says anything actually, given the wage difference, the fact that Kean already played for Juve so there should be no language/cultural issues etc. This is what I’m talking about when I say some of you will use any excuse to bash Martial, as if his form over the last season isn’t enough of a reason.
It’s not pure hatred and it’s ridiculous to suggest otherwise. People are just sick of his attitude and lack of effort. Talent no longer cuts it in this team, you have to work your ass off at a minimum if you’re not going to score.
I posted his work rate stats compared to similar players recently and they were absolutely appalling. Embarrassing.
Not really, if Martial was the player some on here think he is, and Juventus also thought he could tear up the league they would have made a move to at least inquire about him, regardless of his wage. It's still less than they were paying Ronaldo.
I don't hate Martial as some people here, I think martial is a good player, but not world class... I was against selling him because I considered we would need to get another striker if he left... well, now we have Ronaldo, I am ok with him staying providing further competition and all, but we need to get money some where, reduce the wage spenditure and squad numbers, he is not necesary anymore so is a great candidate for that.
I think there wasn't any interest because the club clearly wasn't interested in selling, but that might change now
I think there wasn't any interest because the club clearly wasn't interested in selling, but that might change now