Exactly!
Martial agent looking for a new club for him
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Exactly!
Not a question of talent with Martial, but the effort.
2 questions for you:
1) Do you think Martial can be the main striker on the team if we are to push for the title?
2) Do you think he will be happy and perform if he was to be a squad player?
can we sell martial to Villa or Spurs? once both their top players leave for City
I highly doubt they want him.
Unless the plan is to play Pogba out on the left of the front 3, we can't really afford to sell Martial now that Rashford will be out for a while.
With the amount of games this season and players playing with barely any break for a while now, we can't go into the season with just Cavani, Sancho, Greenwood and Amad as our options for the front 3.
With the amount of games this season and players playing with barely any break for a while now, we can't go into the season with just Cavani, Sancho, Greenwood and Amad as our options for the front 3.
Can we hire John Wick to get rid of him?
Why do people like pushing fake narratives? He started out as a sub in José's 2nd and 3rd seasons and both times he won his spot. Last season was a really weird season for him. Even those that aren't fans of his could tell that normally he contributes way more than he did last season. He was terrible.
So far I believe of our big name senior players he is the only one who hasn't appeared in any of our merchandise marketing campaigns. The likes of lingard, Pogba and James who look closer to the door than him have appeared kit adverts. He might not be fit but nothing stops from going to a quick photo shoot. Maybe I am reading too much into nothing.
Spurs have shown a lot of interest in him at least twice in the past, if not three times. Whether that would still be the case is another question. I guess if we look at his last two seasons, in one of them he wasn't good enough for Spurs (let alone us) but in the other he would have probably been their best player if you take out Kane. They'd have to figure out if they think they'll get more of the good or not. The same decision we have to make when it comes to whether we want to sell him.
I don't think he's going anywhere though.
What interest? I've not seen any offers made.
They tried to sign him at the same time we did, and then there were a lot of strong reports that they wanted him during the time Mourinho wanted him sold (before Glazer/Woodward let it be known we wouldn't sell). Pretty sure there was a third time that there were some rumours as well, but that one didn't seem as legit.
I agree. People are also assuming that Cavani will both stay fit and play at the level he did for the last month of the season which is no certainty.
I seem to remember him starting one game and Rashford the next, and so on. I’m talking about as a bench option, and I can honestly remember him having about three good games from the bench, though it’s not fact, just my impression. His style doesn’t suit us when we need to hurry up and chase a draw or a win, and fight for every ball.
Could we use him to strike a deal with Tottenham?
If only Spurs are that stupid. Sadly like too many players in our squad we are stuck with him because we overpay him and no other club wants him
Hope Spurs pick him up. He's a fantastic player on his day.
Probably right here.
Good player but rotten form off and on and for quite a while now. I think he can get back to form but if not, there’ll be no takers at his wages.
Hope Spurs come in for him with that Kane money.
Regardless of if you want him to stay or go, rate him or don't, he isn't a cf. He doesn't have the movement in the box or the predators instinct for it.
Kane = Martial, Lingard and £10
We need him, at least for this season. He has a chance to prove his doubters wrong, and we are light up top, unless you think Elanga, amad or Pellistri are going to contribute significantly this season.
I think Sancho, Greenwood, Cavani, Rashford and Amad are good enough options.
Martial merely contributed himself last season, it's time for him to move on, along with Pogba.
Got a feeling he’s going to have a good season, and the haters will be eating their words.
I don't see any value in "strong reports"
Im not a hater, more a non believer I suppose. But I don’t think anyone on here doesn’t want to be proved wrong? I’d love him to have an amazing season, I just don’t have any real belief in him sadly.
Don't think we can sell him this Summer. Rashford is out for a while and Cavani can't play anything like every game so unless we are signing a top class striker which would be very unlikely then we need him.
Greenwood will get plenty of gametime but I think it will be spread around a couple of positions. Maybe Martial might be inspired by some new players - if not we can try and sell him next year.
We have bigger issues than him at the moment i.e. midfield.
Greenwood will get plenty of gametime but I think it will be spread around a couple of positions. Maybe Martial might be inspired by some new players - if not we can try and sell him next year.
We have bigger issues than him at the moment i.e. midfield.
Martial is going to be influential in our upcoming campaing, that's my bet. He still has a lot to give and we could fairly use it for good. I don't see the need of selling him now whilst we do have more average players we should be offloading first. If you tell me next season sell Martial to fund Haaland, I'll do it, as much as I like Martial as a United player. But this campaing, with Greenwood still developing and Cavani turning older, he has a lot in there for us.
Me too. He's not nearly as bad as people seem to think. Had a shocker last season but I think the directness of Sancho in the side will really help him. Can see a front three of Martial - Cavani - Sancho blossoming while Rashford is out.
I think you're right. With so many players out at the start he needs to be instrumental. I just hope he doesn't choke.
Look harder.
What can we get from him? 45-50m gbp in today's market?
Don't think we can get a similar player for that amount - Martial is mature now and his edge dribling/finishing is not something we would only pay 45-50m for - Even if, it'd still be an unknown. With Martial we got nice competition and a solid player.
Don't think we can get a similar player for that amount - Martial is mature now and his edge dribling/finishing is not something we would only pay 45-50m for - Even if, it'd still be an unknown. With Martial we got nice competition and a solid player.
More like £40
Kane, economically speaking, is a stupid buy for us, no resale value - we're not City - we have to think of these things having just splashed a huge wage on Sancho too while still having De Gea and Pogba on our books
I actually think Martial would benefit from Rashford's absence. They two did not have the chemistry. Martial usually makes movement when he has eye contact with the ball holder and try to create some space out, but Rashford's passing is either not in time or not accurate. Overall, Rashford's timing of his passing is quite unpredictable and teammates seem hard to collaborate with him. Only like Cavani could snap one or two chances out of massive running in and out trying to accommodate Rashford's rhythm.
I'm not trying to undermine Rashford as he actually was the key player and the only one in the attack group who could provide the explosive speed and running behind to stretch the defenders. That is the key element which enables us to play counter-attack style. But in the second half of last season, he simply did this key contribution too little too rare , due to whatever reasons. If he opts or been asked to play like a wide-playmaker, his technical skills are simply not qualified for the job, and I would rather choose Sacho or Pogba play this role at left wing , as they are better in sync with Martial/Cavani/Greenwood.
I'm not trying to undermine Rashford as he actually was the key player and the only one in the attack group who could provide the explosive speed and running behind to stretch the defenders. That is the key element which enables us to play counter-attack style. But in the second half of last season, he simply did this key contribution too little too rare , due to whatever reasons. If he opts or been asked to play like a wide-playmaker, his technical skills are simply not qualified for the job, and I would rather choose Sacho or Pogba play this role at left wing , as they are better in sync with Martial/Cavani/Greenwood.
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I don't really want to see him go, unless it's a deal to bring in a central defensive midfielder like Rueben Neves.
...but, I'd prefer we sold Jesse Lingard and Daniel James first.
...but, I'd prefer we sold Jesse Lingard and Daniel James first.
I'm not sure what 'main striker' is supposed to mean really.
I think that he can be the starting central attacker in a front three for a team competing to win the league, certainly. I would hope that he finds his scoring touch again, but I wouldn't be expecting him to consistently rack up the kind of numbers usually seen from league top scorers/ an elite team's undisputed principle goalscorer. So I wouldn't bank on him being United's 'main striker' in that sense, nor in the sense of being the team's star attacker/ player generally - the 'main man' as I've read on here Martial is apparently supposed to be as the starting central attacker - when we have other high quality attacking players such as Pogba, Fernandes, Rashford and now Sancho.
I don't see why anyone would be happy to be a squad player, but Martial would be fully capable of working his way back into a starting role at the club. He has done so before.
New haircut = change of attitude this season?
I think we all know a focused martial is fantastic but an unfocused one may as well play a kid
I think we all know a focused martial is fantastic but an unfocused one may as well play a kid
The only way I could see him leaving is if Spurs sell Kane, get desperate in the last weak of the transfer window and offer something stupid like 60m.
Otherwise, he's staying and this thread's source is one of the biggest bullshit merchants around.
Can’t tell unless I see this new haircut.
A mullet, for example, would suggest he’s given up.