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2016-17 Performances

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5.7 Season Average Rating
Appearances
47
Goals
4
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2
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Damien said:
Squawka doesn't mean much like @Invictus said. This season: http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...ered/fouls_committed/total_backward_passes#90

Forward passes the same as Herrera with Herrera making 10 more backward passes every 90 minutes yet everyone will agree Herrera should be in the starting lineup ahead of him.
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That is why I didn't post this season, you can only judge 5 games and against two other players. My comparison was over a season against 3 other players in the same position. You can't yet draw conclusions from those kind of stats for a handful of games.
 
Would love to see a 4-3-3 of Blind as the anchor and Herrera and Pogba as the free men.
 
Anyone who bases their opinion/argument solely on stats should be ignored quite frankly. Case in point: Fellaini is apparently a better passer than Fabregas according to one poster. Beggars belief.
 
noodlehair said:
Either Fellaini doesn't play or you get used to United being a limited team who wont be at the level they want to be.

It's that simple really. He can try, he can have decent games, but he can't change the fact he's a very limited midfielder who lacks mobility. Him being in the team creates problems that can't be resolved by changing who you put around him.

You can't get away with covering less ground than every team you play. You can't get away with moving the ball slower than an opposition can regroup. These are problems that create limitations that are impossible to compensate for during a game, so create a glass ceiling for the whole team.

People are obsessing over Rooney, but a team with Wayne Rooney in it can win a league title if the rest of the team is good enough. A team with Fellaini in it can not.
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That part of his game being so detrimental to our overall play has rarely been more evident than last night. Our pedestrian play was largely in part to him receiving the ball, turning like an oil tanker and passing it sideways allowing the opposition to get their shape back and reset.
 
stevoc said:
That part of his game being so detrimental to our overall play has rarely been more evident than last night. Our pedestrian play was largely in part to him receiving the ball, turning like an oil tanker and passing it sideways allowing the opposition to get their shape back and reset.
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Yeah. I think last night compared to last Saturday showed a lot...but I also think Mourinho sees it too. In fairness other players did have really poor games too so it's wrong to just say it was entirely down to Fellaini, but his lack of mobility and speed both when we have and don't have the ball is just how it is, and can't be ignored as a factor in why we struggle in games when we shouldn't.

For me also, when there's a stat proving United cover less ground during a game than ANY other team in the same league as them, you HAVE to look at the reasons why and do something about it. It's very obvious. It's not lazyness but it's something so basic you have to change it pretty much as a first priority, otherwise everything else is always going to be a struggle.
 
Hugh Jass said:
Would love to see a 4-3-3 of Blind as the anchor and Herrera and Pogba as the free men.
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Still don't think it really looks that strong but it might be the best option we have in the bigger games. Herrera is actually more positionally disciplined than people give him credit for when he's told to be, so he can drop back to make a two easily enough if he has to.

We still need to see Blind actually played in a midfield though. I mean Van Gaal played him there, but it was never really a midfield. It always ended up being Blind there on his own picking the ball up from the centrebacks, while everyone else pissed off 50 yards up the pitch
 
noodlehair said:
Yeah. I think last night compared to last Saturday showed a lot...but I also think Mourinho sees it too. In fairness other players did have really poor games too so it's wrong to just say it was entirely down to Fellaini, but his lack of mobility and speed both when we have and don't have the ball is just how it is, and can't be ignored as a factor in why we struggle in games when we shouldn't.
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They did mate i'm not blaming it all on Fellaini but he was at the centre of it all. With someone quicker on the ball in there they could have set a higher tempo.
 
I don't know what Moyes thought when he bought him. I blame him as much as I will blame Fellaini. How much ever he tries he can sprint or pass. Opposing team players even with a below average pace just glide around him like he isn't there. People keep saying about his heading abilities, but I haven't seen him really score a goal from corner as far as I know. We will only improve when we sell all players who just pass and stand. There is something called 'Off the ball movement' which players like Rooney, Fellaini keep forgetting.
 
He reminds me of Cleverly.

If there's someone else next to him doing their job, he gets a free pass for not doing anything wrong while basically doing nothing beyond a few sideways passes. When their partner is having an off day, it becomes glaringly obvious how little they contribute.
 
Some decent interceptions but I think some people have issues. Fellaini wasn't the reason we struggled against them. It was the fact that the team were not thirsty for goals. We did not press in the final third and we over complicated a game by over passing. It had nothing to do with fellaini. It was like a LVG type performance. We need better width. We need to be more incisive. There were times times we had the ball and someone could turn on it but plays it back. There were times times we're in the final third and are static or end up going back. There are areas we can improve on.

And you can always tell with United because if we spend the first five minutes of a half passing among ourselves, it's going to be a long night. We need a purpose and that means we need to accept that we may conceded - but push on. Attack them at pace...we didn't do much of that in the final third.
 
manutddjw said:
He reminds me of Cleverly.

If there's someone else next to him doing their job, he gets a free pass for not doing anything wrong while basically doing nothing beyond a few sideways passes. When their partner is having an off day, it becomes glaringly obvious how little they contribute.
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Could say basically the same thing about Pogba.
 
Sadly, it looks like we will struggle no matter who is playing and who is not. Fellaini is not our problem and he mostly did well this year. The team just can't get it together on a constant basis.
 
noodlehair said:
Either Fellaini doesn't play or you get used to United being a limited team who wont be at the level they want to be.

It's that simple really. He can try, he can have decent games, but he can't change the fact he's a very limited midfielder who lacks mobility. Him being in the team creates problems that can't be resolved by changing who you put around him.

You can't get away with covering less ground than every team you play. You can't get away with moving the ball slower than an opposition can regroup. These are problems that create limitations that are impossible to compensate for during a game, so create a glass ceiling for the whole team.

People are obsessing over Rooney, but a team with Wayne Rooney in it can win a league title if the rest of the team is good enough. A team with Fellaini in it can not.
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Absolutely 100% completely bang on.
 
Liverpool 0:0 Man Utd
Best player on the pitch so far. Once again proving his worth but there will still be silly comments about how terrible/limited he is.
 
Ahhh... Marouane Fellaini.... When not being completely shit constitutes playing well.
 
He was one of our best players in the first 3 games and again today

But as always he is always one dodgy performance away from being our worst ever player

I dont know why I even bother posting in this thread anymore
 
Fits perfectly into such a defensive set up. Good player for tough away game like this, but if we want to be progressive, he would have to come of and give the box to box role to Pogba, while we add a pure no.10 to our midfield.
 
Alright, I'm his personal hater but he has been quality in the first half. Better than earlier this season too, imo.
 
This, so far, is comfortably better than any of the (overrated) performances he put in earlier in the season. Genuinely very good.
 
Completed 26/27 passes, covered more ground than anyone else with just over 6km in one half.
 
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