Good post.
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Good post.
I don't know. He never manages to impress me but simply because I don't like his playing style. Physical players never impress me unless they combine it with the technical ability of Zlatan for example. I think his lack of technical ability and tactical understanding is also the reason why the team doesn't manage to profit from him winning tackles/headers or whatever, because he hasn't got the ability to convert a ball win into a dangerous attack for his own team.
Maybe I'm unfair to him because I don't like his playing style but I don't think we can ever develop into a top team as long as we have to play someone like him, simply to destroy the oppositions play.
I think the fact it's more trimmed and less in his eyes means he can actually see properly now
It surely can't help having crazy hair like that.I think that's fair on Pogba but the key difference between Fellaini now and Fellaini under van Gaal is position/role. He had a rigid position under van Gaal but he was still an attacking player with freedom to support both ends. Under Mourinho his role has been primarily defensive and a lot deeper on the whole, which means he plays a much bigger role in terms of team shape, ball circulation and just generally the stuff a center mid does. I think he does part of that really well, but the other parts...I wonder if they have a huge impact on the team as a whole.
I do take your point that Fellaini's style of play isn't endearing to many, myself included, so it makes it much easier to scapegoat. I just can't decide whether that's what I'm doing or whether there is some truth to it.
The only game where I had the same suspicion was in the Europa league, where he seemed to dwell on the ball for a bit too long. In general his passing has been crisp, early and accurate. He hasn't played well in every game (who has?) and in the games he didn't perform our midfield has seemed a bit ponderous but he's blatantly capable of being part of a very effective midfield unit, so long as the other cogs in the mechanism are also playing well. Which has, depressingly, only happened about twice this season so far.
They don't venture into the thread when he does well, they'll wait for him to make a mistake and they'll be back. Every match day thread is the same, so many were crying out for Carrick over Fellaini despite it being quite self-evident the former can't handle pressing. We needed Fellaini yesterday but people are blinded by their dislike of him to let him do that role, if Fletcher was here they'd have been calling for him to do the same job.
I think some of our posters must spend post match in a haze of confusion as to why Fellaini hasn't been sent off as supposedly he's always going to cost us with doing so. Their world view of him in that regard is as separated from reality as Liverpool fans thinking they're title contenders.
Great game from the big man yesterday, fully deserved his starting role and kept Coutinho quiet for the duration of the game.
Not a fan of him, but he was 2nd best player in our midfield.
I am though....Have been since the run of matches that included wins at Liverpool and that glorious night against Abu Dhabi Athletic which led to us getting the CL spot in Van Gaal's first season, and which were due to Fella's enegy and ' keep it simple ' style as left sided midfielder.
Big game player without a doubt - and it's a long, long time since we had one of those. No coincidence, then, that both Van Gaal and JM have him in there when it's reliability, effort and temprement that are needed - not fancy back heels, flicks and four man dribbles.
Now, if only last night's rather expensive left sided midfielder would show the same energy and ' keep it simple ' style consistantly, we might have the chance of another CL spot this year as well.
He's so underrated it's actually disgusting.
He does well breaking up play but offers nothing creative wise. He'll win a ball and pass it to the closest player even if its a CB because he can't dictate play and spread balls out effectively and consistently.
Was immense alongside Herrera yesterday. Sad thing is that no matter how many good performances he'll put in, so many people already wrote him off the moment Moyes brought him in. And for some he will always be associated with Moyes's failed tenure.
LVG rated him, Mourinho rates him. You don't get to play under those two if you're as bad as some people think. He's no Roy Keane, but he'll do a solid job nine out of ten times and will give everything on the pitch. His performance yesterday earned him a lot of respect and I would be pleased to have him in our squad.
LVG rated him, Mourinho rates him. You don't get to play under those two if you're as bad as some people think. He's no Roy Keane, but he'll do a solid job nine out of ten times and will give everything on the pitch. His performance yesterday earned him a lot of respect and I would be pleased to have him in our squad.
Maybe many people are thinking that a top-class team should not need to have a "limited" player in the starting line-up playing a destructive/disruptive role. But the truth is, the dirty work still needs to get done. Some teams spread the defensive around by have that high pressing game, while others assign specific players to carry out this role. We seem to be more of the latter, to be honest, and that's the manager's decision.
So if we're hoping to never see the likes of Fellaini in our starting line-up, we probably need to change our manager first.
Personally, I think Fellaini is doing a great job, and deserves to play on merit. He's much more than just a destructive footballer, he actually keeps the ball well and moves it along nicely too. So many other players are getting a free pass despite playing worse than him, simply because of perception.
So if we're hoping to never see the likes of Fellaini in our starting line-up, we probably need to change our manager first.
Personally, I think Fellaini is doing a great job, and deserves to play on merit. He's much more than just a destructive footballer, he actually keeps the ball well and moves it along nicely too. So many other players are getting a free pass despite playing worse than him, simply because of perception.
Where would he fit in the treble winning side of 99 or the CL winners of '08?
Well he's a lot better than Anderson, for starters. His form so far this season wouldn't put him far behind Park too.
People go on about how slow and immobile he is as well as his lack of agility, but he looks faster, more mobile and more agile than Pogba does...
Makelele did exactly the same thing and he became a legend. Mourinho's tactics worked to perfection and Fellaini's inclusion was a major reason for it.
Not the guy for every game or most games for sure. Did well the other night!
That's what Pogba was on the field for, on paper Herrera and Pogba should be enough creativity in midfield but obviously Pogba's lack of form and the cautious tactics did not help in our attacking play
Fair point in theory, but Anderson and Park were passengers too. I'd rate all three as similar in terms of skill set and ability.... or lack thereof.
I think you're underrating Park a bit by that, he wasnt good enough to be a consistent starter but my word, he was vital against big opposition.
Don't hurt yourself.
He's occasionally good at breaking up the play but he's a limited, technically lacking player who we should move on from as soon as possible.
Herrera has his tenacity and has infinitely greater technical ability to boot. That's the level of player we should require, not Fellaini.
Herrera has his tenacity and has infinitely greater technical ability to boot. That's the level of player we should require, not Fellaini.
I think he's doing what he's supposed to. Not his fault that he can't do what people expect... because he never could do it to begin with lol.
I don't remember we ever have full eleven world beaters. So don't expect it too much.
Unfortunately for him it takes one bad game till everyone is shitting on him again. Time and time again he proves his worth in this team.
Comparing him to Keane and Scholes is a massive stretch. He's a completely different type of player.
Back then, we had squad players like Jordi Cruyff, Blomqvist, Fortune, Anderson, etc. I'd say he is better than all of those guys... Anderson had potential and some good moments but overall I think Fellaini's contributed more. And thats insane to think about considering Anderson has like, 5 Premier League winners medals. Fellaini scored in some big matches, was one of the main reasons we won the FA Cup last season and usually rises to the occasion when called upon.
Youre underrating Blomqvist quite a bit.
And Anderson in his first season for us.
And Anderson in his first season for us.
Chelsea 4:0 Man Utd
We're a goal down, what's he going to offer? Hook him off
I really hope he's sold, not because he's not good enough to be at least an option from the bench but he will always tempt managers to play him in those tough games... we should definitely be aiming to try play our game not to eliminate some other teams tactics. Just hates this and hate mourinho for this if he can adapt to our philosophy he can also go, this is pointless, more teams these days will fearlessly press us all over the pitch and Fellaini is absolutely terrible player for this, defensively and ging forward too, the boy an't controll football make a simple turn and pass. I am speechless by this toothless tactics
He lacks any mobility whatsoever. Against Liverpool, we kept it tight and sat deep. Chasing the game, there's more space to cover and Chelsea are giving us the runaround. His complete lack of mobility and ability (other than to act as a spoiler) are on show.
Yeah, we're being overrun in midfield and he just doesn't have the pace or quickness to his game to deal with it. In a big game where we're on top and dominant his physicality can be useful, but when we're under pressure he really doesn't seem to offer a lot.
Same story when we're chasing a game, he does a job but he's a wasted position in reality.
Seriously feck him off already
Neville a right when he says Fellaini isn't much use with his back to goal. Isn't doing a great job screening the defence either.
He is continually losing the ball. We have to get someone comfortable on the ball in there asap.
This Fellaini shit needs to stop. It seems that one good game seems to buying a starting spot for the next three months.
Yes, he's agressive and gets stuck in... but he's not a fecking footballer.
Yes, he's agressive and gets stuck in... but he's not a fecking footballer.
I got absolute pelters for saying this during the City game.
I simply do not understand how people don't recognise this is a huge issue with him. Regardless of how well he individually does teams with mobility in midfield just run past him as if he's not there.
Don't worry. He'll do well against Stoke and his fans will come out again praising him
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