Yeah but why did he give that cnut a chance to do what he does? He completely lost it. It was pretty obvious he was going to do something dumb right after he started chasing Agüero. We all know a player like Agüero will sense this and use this for his own good. I don't hate Fellaini, as a matter of fact, I am closer to a sympathetic side recently. That said, I just can't accept his actions yesterday. He could have costed us a very valuable point.
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Yeah but why did he give that cnut a chance to do what he does? He completely lost it. It was pretty obvious he was going to do something dumb right after he started chasing Agüero. We all know a player like Agüero will sense this and use this for his own good. I don't hate Fellaini, as a matter of fact, I am closer to a sympathetic side recently. That said, I just can't accept his actions yesterday. He could have costed us a very valuable point.
Phil Neville, John O'Shea, Darren Fletcher to name but a few....heard that crap before. Teams are made up of all sorts of players and this is just the hangover from when people wanted a more high profile signing under Moyes. Move on it's now boring and no ones saying he's the answer but even the biggest Felliani hater must be able to recognise his contribution this season. Did you watch the Euro game last week. I also thought he was superb against Burnley....
Fletcher was criticized when he was 20 not 28. By the time he was 25 he was an integral part of our team. P. Neville was a more versatile player than Fellaini and he was sold. O'shea was also sold at some point, and he was a jack of all trades. Fellaini is reaching his 30s. He is not very agile, nor a very technical player. If we stick with him as our 3rd or 4th choice for the next 2-3 years then we must come to terms that top 4 is our only goal. He has had something like 10 good games in a period of 4 years..
So the games he pulled us out of a hole with going in the mixer to get something from a game mean feck all? You know what your going to get with Fellaini, I'll support him either way. Daft decision but what he done leading to it I have no problems with what so ever.
Absolute rubbish and selective in your thinking....
All the players you named there were better than him particularly Fletcher. Seriously what does he offer that make you think he is useful or "superb"?
Absolutely agree. Forums always need a dog to kick, and as long as he's wearing a Utd shirt for some on here, he'll be it. He's been an important player both ends of the field as he proved in Europe last week and against Burnley. Trust me I'd sooner have him to the left or right of me, than some pussy's that have worn the red shirt in the past. He plays on the edge, that's his game good, bad and sometimes ugly. Trust me, Arsenal and Spurs will be happy he's suspended as he's the typical player no one wants to play against.
...not even going to entertain you with an answer if you anyone with some football knowledge can't see his achievements this season. The Felliani stuff is just boring and some people need to move on to the Pogba posts as I'm sure he's the next forum dog to kick. Maybe even booo him at OT when he helps to create the goal that puts us into the semis of a European cup?
Aguero was being a snide cnut but it's nothing that we haven't praised Ander Herrera for being this year. What other sport would deliberately trying to get an opponent in trouble with the official be encouraged? It's the dark arts of the sport. All that said Fellaini should have laughed it off because he has probably done bigger shits than that squirt Aguero - he fell for the most basic of traps and was shown up for a lack of intelligence in the heat of the moment.
Aguero played him like a violin yesterday... just as he was having a run of decent performances.
With Zlatan out and now fellaini suspended we gonna be vulnerable in set pieces. This happened in the back end of last season. I am of the opinion that had he been there against west ham last season we would have not conceded those headers. He is going to be big miss for us.
Or bring in a better player during the window, his contributions aren't hard to match or eclipse.
His "achievements" as you put it are small yes great we scored a couple goals but maybe, just maybe a half decent midfielder would be able to chip in with more than that and also not cost us points at the same time.
Just checking in to see how many Fellaini haters are trying to use last night's incident to tip the imaginary scales that they've collectively created in their own minds of whether or not he 'should be sold'.
The guy should be given a new contract.
The guy should be given a new contract.
I find it staggering some people think fellaini played well last night or that he's had a tremendous season.
The bar is set so low for him. No other midfielder in our history could put in the performances fellaini does and get praise for it.
The bar is set so low for him. No other midfielder in our history could put in the performances fellaini does and get praise for it.
Yes. Just not with us.
he cant pass the ball 10 yards forward , rashford had 3-4 clear runs and he passed sideways . not good enough at top level , great for a team fighting to be hard to beat .
for what reason?
tell me what positive attribute he brings to the team other than decent chest control?
He made a good point, al the players you mentioned brought more to the team than fellaini, every player does a handful of decent things during a season but what we need is consistency and he doesn't have it.
He's cost us points with stupid reckless decisions and nearly did again
I can't believe how bad he is on the ball, it's terrifying. I can't agree with the parallels to supposed weaker squad players we've had over the years, like John O'Shea. Those players at least had decent footballing intelligence even if they weren't the most technically gifted. Fellaini absolutely does not, I struggle to understand what he offers aside from being able to rough up physical sides. If Fellaini was 5ft 10, would Jose even play him?
Great answer. Care to elaborate a bit? Can you name the plethora of games that fellaini was at his best? Fletcher was criticized during 2009 campaing? Werent neville and o shea more versatile and werent they sold?
What achievement are you talking about? Why do we feel the need to defend mediocre players! It started with Rooney 2 years ago, now it's Fellaini. People have to realise that the reason why we are struggling is because we have too many average and mediocre players in this team playing in key positions! 1st LVG trusted a finished Rooney to deliver 30 goals last season and as result we missed out the CL. Now Jose is doing the same by trusting a mediocre player like Fellaini to play a key role in a big derby game away from home and again as result we struggled to create any chance for that game and were unable to find our forwards because our supposed creative player was as useless again.
Fellaini is not United quality, you can argue that we had average squad players under Fergie too but the PL have changed now, small teams have better players than it was 8 years ago! And SAF was SAF; nowadays we need a strong team and quality in every area to be successful again; we need that the player who'll come on to replace Pogba or Ibra or Herrera be able to offer at least 3/4 of what they can do! Look at Madrid or Munich and watch the quality of their squad depth.
Fellaini is not good for Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Everton so why is he starting for the biggest club in England??? Strange case!
It is in general unfortunately. One or two games showing a bit of effort and not fecking up is enough to rate someone now.
As i've said, he's done a job on occasion and I was warming to him being used sparingly. He's far from good enough with the ball to be playing for us in reality though, and always always has stupidity in him, which can cost us massively. At least Keane's rashness was backed up by being good at football.
Brain fart from him. He has been better in recent weeks, however he let himself down last night and Mourinho. The squad is already down to the bare bones and now he will be banned for 3 games. I like his attitude and he is a tryer. However it is not enough for a Manchester United midfielder.
Bang on
Hope he stays, shows bottle and fight. Perfect squad player to have given a situation.
The bar is so low with Fellaini that a competent performance equates to some on here saying he had a great game. I mean he had some decent performances lately. They were decent, no more, no less. Yet those performances are being highly exaggerated by some to try and defend his actions last night.
I will always be against having Fellaini in our side and would prefer if he did not get a new contract but the truth is, he has not had a bad season. He's done the job asked of him whenever he's played so I think my issue is more with Jose than him.
What you say about the "Imaginary scales" is pretty spot on. As soon as he got the red card, my whatsapp football group was inundated with comments like, "That's it! Fellaini is so shite, we need to sell him right now!"
Which is pretty mind boggling when you consider nobody (in my whatsapp group) has made any complaints about him since he got back in the side a few weeks ago yet this one moment is suddenly meant to be the "final straw".
The same happened with Smalling against Middlesborough. It's almost like fans sit there just waiting for one single mistake so that they can pounce and express all their pent up hatred for certain players
we had squad players before, however none of them were a ticking bomb (debatable on Phil and his tackles inside the box) or were paid like a 30m panic buy.
Aguero baited him and definitely made the most of it but he deserved the red card for being so stupid.
Mourinho seems to really like him and I just cannot understand why. He tries his best but he is one of the most unreliable players in the squad.
Mourinho seems to really like him and I just cannot understand why. He tries his best but he is one of the most unreliable players in the squad.
Him staying means offering him a contract extension. So, hopefully he won't.
What because he won a header? jesus if we want a player to do that we could sign Crouch or Zigic. What he brings to the table in midfield is not good enough, his downsides far out weigh the good. Yes If we keep him as an emergency sub to stick upfront in times of long ball then fine he can do that effectively. Controlling a midfield away in a tight game is something he will never do. We looked absolutely rubbish last night and it all stems from his lack of athleticism combined with Carrick.
The fact is he is absolutely brain dead and costs us so many times. I am the first to congratulate our players on a cynical foul but he got suckered into something so amateur. That was nearly our top 4 chances gone up in smoke all because he wants to be the big tough guy. Idiot.
I like Fellaini but if he wasn't playing for us I would hate him. He is so dirty. If he was actually good like Zlatan or Suarez then his aggressive nature wouldn't be so noticeable. Aguero provoked him but he should've dealt with it better. He is a pro and has been playing for years. How he cannot control his head in that situation is pretty silly really.
I made no reference to better as all those players have different attributes. My point was those players were equally criticised by fans about their qualities and whether we're Utd quality. Those might want to have selective memories but this I remember as fact.
Despite anyone's opinion of his abilities, I seem to share mine with a manager that's already proven to be one of the best in the world and who's achievements already probably won't be surpassed. Who do you and others on here share yours with???
Don't talk to me about hope, you know nothing. He will stay, you will have to put up with him from your armchair.
What's wrong with decent? He was never the answer but Jose wouldn't play him if he didn't offer the team something. Whilst everyone's entitled to an opinion surely that can't be argued. Also the same player is in a very good Belgium team. Whys that then....?
Or at least if it makes him feel better, take him out his fantasy football team.
In this game Carrick was nullifying threats in central midfield; he spent lots of the game shadowing De Bruyne and forcing him into wide areas. We were not particularly troubled through the middle; most of their threat came from Aguero taking pot shots from outside the box. City's 2 best chances came from wide areas so I can say that Carrick did a satisfactory job. If he had put in some good forward passes he would have had a good performance but city put Carrick under pressure when he got the ball which made his passing a bit sloppy.
Hererra was providing the legs in midfield and preventing overloads. Blind has the habit of leaving his position and Carrick almost always covers the space he leaves, then Herrera covers the space Carrick leaves. When city got a 2on1 along wide areas Herrera was evening the numbers and forcing them back into central areas where they would be forced to deal with our parked bus. I would say that Herrera also had a satisfactory game; he got into good offensive positions but completely fluffed a free header from 2 yards out. If he had scored he would have had a good game.
Fellaini was given less defensive responsibility and played further up the pitch than Herrera or Carrick. Yet you would struggle to find a moment where he drove the team forward or provided a spark of creativity. Herrera was more influential going forward; in the first 20 minutes he was the one trying to find a pass to Rashford and when we started resorting to long balls and set pieces he was the one that was the closest to scoring. Aside from some good chest control and getting 'stuck in' (and getting a red card eventually) he did nothing of note. I would say he had a below satisfactory game which turned into an unacceptable game because of the red card.
We set up in this game similar to Anfield; and in that game Pogba was criticized for being bad. Even then, he provided us with some forward movement and created the best chance of the game for Ibra. Fellaini does worse than Pogba in a similar role and some people think he has had a great game. The only reasonable explanation is that their expectations of Fellaini have gotten lower and lower such that even when he gets an idiotic red card he still has a great game.
Hererra was providing the legs in midfield and preventing overloads. Blind has the habit of leaving his position and Carrick almost always covers the space he leaves, then Herrera covers the space Carrick leaves. When city got a 2on1 along wide areas Herrera was evening the numbers and forcing them back into central areas where they would be forced to deal with our parked bus. I would say that Herrera also had a satisfactory game; he got into good offensive positions but completely fluffed a free header from 2 yards out. If he had scored he would have had a good game.
Fellaini was given less defensive responsibility and played further up the pitch than Herrera or Carrick. Yet you would struggle to find a moment where he drove the team forward or provided a spark of creativity. Herrera was more influential going forward; in the first 20 minutes he was the one trying to find a pass to Rashford and when we started resorting to long balls and set pieces he was the one that was the closest to scoring. Aside from some good chest control and getting 'stuck in' (and getting a red card eventually) he did nothing of note. I would say he had a below satisfactory game which turned into an unacceptable game because of the red card.
We set up in this game similar to Anfield; and in that game Pogba was criticized for being bad. Even then, he provided us with some forward movement and created the best chance of the game for Ibra. Fellaini does worse than Pogba in a similar role and some people think he has had a great game. The only reasonable explanation is that their expectations of Fellaini have gotten lower and lower such that even when he gets an idiotic red card he still has a great game.
Sack Jose for being stupid enough in picking him. What the feck does he know anyway? Oh sorry he's knows lots but not when it's different to our opinions....
There's a difference betweeen showing bottle and fight compared to being reckless and stupid.
Lets the team down once again this season. Just goes to show he's a unreliable player, yet Mourinho will overlook it because Fellaini is one of his favourites.
Makes it even more annoying considering we have a lot of games coming up we're short on players. He was decent last night off the ball, but man, his passing is so poor. During the second half, he picked up the ball in a decent position and Rashford made a good run, Fellaini looked him, knew he couldn't pull off the pass and passed the ball to Martial instead. Yet Mourinho thinks Fellaini is Pogba's replacement.
In all honestly, I'll be very surprised if he gets sold this summer. Mourinho clearly has a soft spot for him
Makes it even more annoying considering we have a lot of games coming up we're short on players. He was decent last night off the ball, but man, his passing is so poor. During the second half, he picked up the ball in a decent position and Rashford made a good run, Fellaini looked him, knew he couldn't pull off the pass and passed the ball to Martial instead. Yet Mourinho thinks Fellaini is Pogba's replacement.
In all honestly, I'll be very surprised if he gets sold this summer. Mourinho clearly has a soft spot for him
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