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2016-17 Performances


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5.7 Season Average Rating
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47
Goals
4
Assists
2
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People making out like he is complete useless,which he isnt. He is good at some things and really bad some other. I think we should keep him and use him properly when we need to and not force him to do something in which he is clueless.
 
People making out like he is complete useless,which he isnt. He is good at some things and really bad some other. I think we should keep him and use him properly when we need to and not force him to do something in which he is clueless.

Like, as a toilet brush on the bogs at Old Trafford? I hear ya.
 
He does end up on the bench quite a bit. So I'm not sure we can say he doesn't pay a price for poor performances.

That implies he's been demoted from the first XI. He shouldn't be anywhere near it. We didn't hire Mourinho to get the best out of Fellaini. We hired him to make us good enough to ensure we never needed him again!
 
I really don't understand Jose when it comes to his fellaini obsession. Some players get hung out to dry yet from the beginning of the season Jose backs this lumbering sack of shit to the hilt. I don't mind if he calls players out in the press, but I do mind if he plays favourites.
 
Him not tracking runners happens all the time, Everton's goal the other week was because he didn't pick up his man (twice), yet he is treated with kid's gloves while other players get put out to dry. He's a terrible defensive midfielder.
 
Pretty hopeless of him to stop running, but we should've more. A lapse in concentration happens and it resulted in a goal this time, but to blame him for the draw is silly
 
Pretty hopeless of him to stop running, but we should've more. A lapse in concentration happens and it resulted in a goal this time, but to blame him for the draw is silly
I don't blame him for the draw, I blame him for being a useless turd of a footballer.
 
Just stopped for ball watching when they scored. Jose seems to give no regards to brainy and technical players. He just values commitment and effort. Thats why him and lingard keep playing for us regularly.

As for Fellaini, he has been here for 4 years now. I don't know what managers see in him. He is just hopeless.
 
Did we change our formation to:

---carrick---Fellaini
pogba---miki---martial
-------zlatan

Because it looked like it.

I was hoping for this...Fellaini is defensively not good enough

---carrick---pogba
miki---Fellaini---martial
-------zlatan

even this had worked, the closer Fellaini is to opponents goal the safer we are

miki---carrick---pogba
--Fellaini---martial
-------zlatan
 
Him not tracking runners happens all the time, Everton's goal the other week was because he didn't pick up his man (twice), yet he is treated with kid's gloves while other players get put out to dry. He's a terrible defensive midfielder.

but he's hardworking
 
Unpopular opinion, perhaps, but I think he's something of a lazy bastard and always have done. Not lazy in the sense that he actively doesn't try, but lazy in the sense that he switches off, stands still and allows his marker to get in front of him. It's not the first goal we've conceded because Fellaini couldn't be arsed to track back.
 
Just stopped for ball watching when they scored. Jose seems to give no regards to brainy and technical players. He just values commitment and effort. Thats why him and lingard keep playing for us regularly.

As for Fellaini, he has been here for 4 years now. I don't know what managers see in him. He is just hopeless.
Complete nonsense but OK, if it suits your narrative.
 
Jose has a really odd blindspot when it comes to Fellaini. There is nothing wrong with bringing a player on in a deep midfield role to see out games as long as that player is good in that role.

Fellaini is a terrible defensive midfield player. He fails to track runners on a regular basis and is so clumsy he commits a lot of fouls around the box. He has cost the team before and it was no surprise he did that again.

United were incredibly wasteful and should have wrapped that up 2-0 which would have finished the tie. But that mistake has changed the momentum of the tie and it was just a lack of effort which is unacceptable at this level.
 
Unpopular opinion, perhaps, but I think he's something of a lazy bastard and always have done. Not lazy in the sense that he actively doesn't try, but lazy in the sense that he switches off, stands still and allows his marker to get in front of him. It's not the first goal we've conceded because Fellaini couldn't be arsed to track back.

He is not a DM. He's a decent no 10 in an average side playing Big Sam's football.

Just because a player is big and mean that doesn't mean he's a DM. As Osman said, you don't want Fellaini anywhere near your box. He's not his role there
 
Just stopped for ball watching when they scored. Jose seems to give no regards to brainy and technical players. He just values commitment and effort. Thats why him and lingard keep playing for us regularly.

As for Fellaini, he has been here for 4 years now. I don't know what managers see in him. He is just hopeless.

Then he shouldn't be too pissed off if we ends up with a draw against these sort of teams
 
Pros:
- Tall
- When played in an advanced role, good at bringing the ball down and bringing others into play (as he did for LVG at times in his first season)
- Good chest control
- Sometimes helps on set pieces

Cons
- Has zero passing range or ability
- Slows play down completely
- No defensive discipline or awareness regularly costs goals
- Gives away silly fouls
- No technical ability
- Immobile

That's an honest appraisal of his ability - he's basically a glorified Andy Carroll. No actual quality to play in CM.
 
but he's hardworking
It always amuses me how some people use hardworking as a way of defending a player, without realising it's possible to be a hard worker but still crap at your job. Patting Fellaini on the back for trying is like giving the special needs kid a badge for coming 4th in the egg and spoon race.
 
It always amuses me how some people use hardworking as a way of defending a player, without realising it's possible to be a hard worker but still crap at your job. Patting Fellaini on the back for trying is like giving the special needs kid a badge for coming 4th in the egg and spoon race.

The DM role had been the Cinderella of positions for many many years. It requires a different skillset to an AMC or a DLP but that doesn't make it an inferior/redundant role. A DM must cover loads of inches of pitch, he needs to understand the opponent's game so he will be able to disrupt it and he needs to anticipate and therefore minimise the threat coming from key players in midfield. Being big and mean doesn't make you a DM
 
He is entering the last 12 months of his contract with no extension option (it's been used up). If he gets offered a new deal instead of being sold this summer it will bring my piss to boil.
 
It shouldn't have been 1 fecking nil anyway.

Blaming Fellaini cause we couldn't finish off Anderlecht is delusional. We should be putting 4 or 5 past these mugs. Look at the likes of Pogba, Rashford, Martial, Lingard. Those guys let us down today, NOT Fellaini.

Stop scapegoating him ffs.

Yeah i'm sure if Smalling had watched someone waltz past him to head in a late equalizer you would be preaching calm. And pointing out how others were also at fault.
 
Jose has obsession about him? dont think so. Jose has misjudgment about some players and Fellaini is one of them. Fellaini is a good no 10 player. Not a CM, not DMF. He is nothing near the midfield.
 
Jose has obsession about him? dont think so. Jose has misjudgment about some players and Fellaini is one of them. Fellaini is a good no 10 player. Not a CM, not DMF. He is nothing near the midfield.
What makes him a good #10? I mean compared with other good #10's such as De Bruyne and Mata, for example.
 
Jose has obsession about him? dont think so. Jose has misjudgment about some players and Fellaini is one of them. Fellaini is a good no 10 player. Not a CM, not DMF. He is nothing near the midfield.
Agreed, Pogba and Carrick were running the game. If you're going to bring Fellaini on at least keep him high up the field.
 
What makes him a good #10? I mean compared with other good #10's such as De Bruyne and Mata, for example.
when Fellaini was at Everton. He was one of their best players playing upfront. Every time he played against us he was a pain in the a** to our defenders if you remember Sir alex loss to Everton in his last season. Im not saying he is great no 10. He is plain good.
 
Complete nonsense but OK, if it suits your narrative.
I don't have any agenda here, maybe the post was put in a wrong sense. He prefers Lingard over Martial, Fellaini over Herrera yesterday. He seems to value players trying hard more than those players who could actually influence the game. If he showed a bit of patience with Martial, he could have improved a lot. Constantly in and out of the team wont help him.

We need intelligent players on the pitch, because what I saw yesterday was brainfarting from our attacking players. Lingard as usual missing, Rashford though he played good, showed lack of decision making ability when he just rolls the ball forwards thinking he would just dribble past his marker. Ibra, yet again sloppy. He gets away with his casual attitude because he nicks a goal/assist.
 
I don't have any agenda here, maybe the post was put in a wrong sense. He prefers Lingard over Martial, Fellaini over Herrera yesterday. He seems to value players trying hard more than those players who could actually influence the game. If he showed a bit of patience with Martial, he could have improved a lot. Constantly in and out of the team wont help him.

We need intelligent players on the pitch, because what I saw yesterday was brainfarting from our attacking players. Lingard as usual missing, Rashford though he played good, showed lack of decision making ability when he just rolls the ball forwards thinking he would just dribble past his marker. Ibra, yet again sloppy. He gets away with his casual attitude because he nicks a goal/assist.
No, Herrera was being rested, it's clear he sees Herrera as a pivotal player.

Martial isn't playing at the moment because he's been absolute horse shit whenever he has been given an opportunity. When he did come on yesterday he didn't even look like he could be arsed.

So you want Martial instead of Lingard because he's 'more intelligent', are you actually serious? Zlatan isn't an intelligent player? You're going around in circles contradicting your own points. Explain to me then, what this intelligent side looks like? Who shouldve played yesterday.

This is all without taking into consideration the need for squad rotation. We've got a massive game in 3 days time and another massive game 3 days after. Players need rest and squad rotation provides that.
 
No, Herrera was being rested, it's clear he sees Herrera as a pivotal player.

Martial isn't playing at the moment because he's been absolute horse shit whenever he has been given an opportunity. When he did come on yesterday he didn't even look like he could be arsed.

So you want Martial instead of Lingard because he's 'more intelligent', are you actually serious? Zlatan isn't an intelligent player? You're going around in circles contradicting your own points. Explain to me then, what this intelligent side looks like? Who shouldve played yesterday.

This is all without taking into consideration the need for squad rotation. We've got a massive game in 3 days time and another massive game 3 days after. Players need rest and squad rotation provides that.
Good post, everything you said is right. Anyone in the world who thinks Fellaini is preferred to Herrera is mental. Herrera is clearly being rested for a very important match v Chelsea.
 
No, Herrera was being rested, it's clear he sees Herrera as a pivotal player.

Martial isn't playing at the moment because he's been absolute horse shit whenever he has been given an opportunity. When he did come on yesterday he didn't even look like he could be arsed.

So you want Martial instead of Lingard because he's 'more intelligent', are you actually serious? Zlatan isn't an intelligent player? You're going around in circles contradicting your own points. Explain to me then, what this intelligent side looks like? Who shouldve played yesterday.

This is all without taking into consideration the need for squad rotation. We've got a massive game in 3 days time and another massive game 3 days after. Players need rest and squad rotation provides that.

Thats fine but it seems to be different rules for different players. Martial has a bad game and he's dropped fair enough in itself, but Lingard was wank last night but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he started on Sunday as he has after previous bad performances.
 
What makes him a good #10? I mean compared with other good #10's such as De Bruyne and Mata, for example.

He had a unique role at Everton as 10 which was basically tailor made for him. He had to 'fight' defenders and try to win the header.

Simple instruction from a simple coach for a simple player but it did work in that certain (simple) tactic.
 
Thats fine but it seems to be different rules for different players. Martial has a bad game and he's dropped fair enough in itself, but Lingard was wank last night but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he started on Sunday as he has after previous bad performances.
It's not just that, his general attitude has been poor too. Take a look at Rashford yesterday, he worked his arse off for the team and did a great job defensively, could you honestly see Martial doing that? He isn't at a level where he can forgo all other aspects of his game. Until he starts showing commitment to Jose, like Rashford, Mhkitaryan and even Shaw recently, he'll see his playing time strictly limited. And rightfully so
 
Pros:
- Tall
- When played in an advanced role, good at bringing the ball down and bringing others into play (as he did for LVG at times in his first season)
- Good chest control
- Sometimes helps on set pieces

Cons
- Has zero passing range or ability
- Slows play down completely
- No defensive discipline or awareness regularly costs goals
- Gives away silly fouls
- No technical ability
- Immobile

That's an honest appraisal of his ability - he's basically a glorified Andy Carroll. No actual quality to play in CM.

I will sum it up in one word. Shit.
 
Martial isn't playing at the moment because he's been absolute horse shit whenever he has been given an opportunity. When he did come on yesterday he didn't even look like he could be arsed.

He had one good game then he played badly in the next match and was "rested" and players who don't deserve to play for us are playing every game.
 
It's not just that, his general attitude has been poor too. Take a look at Rashford yesterday, he worked his arse off for the team and did a great job defensively, could you honestly see Martial doing that? He isn't at a level where he can forgo all other aspects of his game. Until he starts showing commitment to Jose, like Rashford, Mhkitaryan and even Shaw recently, he'll see his playing time strictly limited. And rightfully so

Of course his attitude will be poor as he is rested everytime he has a bad game. While players like Fellaini and Lingard will be selected irrespective of how they played in the previous match.
 
Of course his attitude will be poor as he is rested everytime he has a bad game. While players like Fellaini and Lingard will be selected irrespective of how they played in the previous match.
Lingard has played less than Martial this season. Fellaini has played the least of our midfielders, except the 35-year old Carrick.

What are you trying to argue here, exactly? That there's some kind of conspiracy against Martial? Maybe he's not playing because his attitude is not good, maybe it's because he's not training well, maybe it's his sub-par performances. There most likely is some reason and we do have to field 11 players each game, so someone else would be taking his place.

There isn't any big discrepancies between minutes played and contribution.
 
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