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What you've said is right about his use of the ball but he's not the only player who has been guilty of killing our tempo in recent games. It's been a common theme throughout the team, imo.

Despite popular opinion, I think he's been one of our most consistent players this season and we do seem to miss his aerial presence defensively when he doesn't play.

That may be true but only because we persist on playing Blind at CB just because he's left footed. When it's just not his natural position, nor is he strong enough in the air in my opinion to play there long term in the PL.

We are basically putting two square pegs in two round holes, to the detriment of the side.
 
That may be true but only because we persist on playing Blind at CB just because he's left footed. When it's just not his natural position, nor is he strong enough in the air in my opinion to play there long term in the PL.

We are basically putting two square pegs in two round holes, to the detriment of the side.

It's not just because he's left footed, it's also because he's a great passer of the ball, helping us keeping possession.
 
It's not just because he's left footed, it's also because he's a great passer of the ball, helping us keeping possession.

Yeah which is easier in that position if you are left footed. But none of that changes the fact Blind isn't a Centre Back.

There are other actual defenders out there who are also great at passing out from the back but also much better in the air than Blind.
 
I constantly slate him, so credit where it's due. He was decent last night, not great but he did ok. I will admit i thought an immobile midfield of him and Carrick was an accident waiting to happen, especially if Fellaini did his usual disappearing act. But he didn't let that happen. Kudos.
 
That may be true but only because we persist on playing Blind at CB just because he's left footed. When it's just not his natural position, nor is he strong enough in the air in my opinion to play there long term in the PL.

We are basically putting two square pegs in two round holes, to the detriment of the side.

I understand your sentiments but I'm of the opinion that Blind has been great at CB; better than Jones, McNair and Rojo anyway.

His lack of height is covered by Smalling and Fellaini and their inability to spray the ball about is covered by Blind.

It's unorthodox but I like it. I'm also happy that LVG is persisting with the same setup, injuries permitting. We've had to chop and change so much over the past few months which can't have helped our performances and this year we've started to improve our play dramatically.
 
I've never seen a player with such limited creative ability. I don't think he's ever made a pass over 5 yards in his career.
 
I understand your sentiments but I'm of the opinion that Blind has been great at CB; better than Jones, McNair and Rojo anyway.

His lack of height is covered by Smalling and Fellaini and their inability to spray the ball about is covered by Blind.

It's unorthodox but I like it. I'm also happy that LVG is persisting with the same setup, injuries permitting. We've had to chop and change so much over the past few months which can't have helped our performances and this year we've started to improve our play dramatically.

I don't hate Blind at CB he's done well considering he's never played there before this season (in a back 4 anyway), but let's be honest here if Van Gaal had signed Ramos, Hummels or whoever Blind wouldn't be playing back there. So he's not in Van Gaals long term plans back there, he's a stop gap and rightly so because we are not winning the League or CL with Blind at CB.

Similarly no team with Fellaini in a midfield 2 (good player though he is in a certain set-up) is winning much either beyond the odd cup. If Van Gaal is replaced in the summer i would put my house on the next manager not playing Blind at CB and Fellaini in a CM 2 on anything like a regular basis if at all.

We would be a much stronger team with a CM who can pass better than Fellaini and a defender who can pass like Blind but is also more suited to playing CB on his own merits without having to resort to playing tall players in other positions to cover his lack of aerial presence.
 
As usual, the shocking (but so anymore) of "can't pass, no aerial threat" comments in this thread.

You know if people genuinely criticized Fellaini for his short-comings it would make sense but playing him down as this disaster just proves some of you hate them man no matter what he does or will ever do.

To the lot that thing is absolutely terrible: You do realize such a terrible player was Everton's best player for a few seasons (and they were a top 6 team throughout). Anyway, no use arguing with them since they've made up their mind.

But to answer the normal critiques, I think he should start against Chelsea because he seems to be finding some form.
 
I constantly slate him, so credit where it's due. He was decent last night, not great but he did ok. I will admit i thought an immobile midfield of him and Carrick was an accident waiting to happen, especially if Fellaini did his usual disappearing act. But he didn't let that happen. Kudos.

It's the sort of midfield that would probably struggle in a game where we're not in control and on the backfoot for a lot of it, but was more likely to work when we played attacking football.
 
As usual, the shocking (but so anymore) of "can't pass, no aerial threat" comments in this thread.

You know if people genuinely criticized Fellaini for his short-comings it would make sense but playing him down as this disaster just proves some of you hate them man no matter what he does or will ever do.

To the lot that thing is absolutely terrible: You do realize such a terrible player was Everton's best player for a few seasons (and they were a top 6 team throughout). Anyway, no use arguing with them since they've made up their mind.

But to answer the normal critiques, I think he should start against Chelsea because he seems to be finding some form.

I don't see what is particularly ridiculous about those criticisms. His passing, for a player playing regularly in midfield, is distinctly average. Someone like Carrick, for example, is a far, far better passer. Fellaini's passing usually involves him tentatively shifting it off to whoever's beside him because he knows he's not a good passer.

And his aerial threat is distinctly average considering his height. He consistently squanders chances when he does get them, and doesn't win anywhere near the number of aerial duels as he should for someone of his size. No one's saying he's awful in the air, but he's basically moderately okay there because of his size. He certainly doesn't offer enough of an attacking threat. Useful for defending set-pieces/corners though.
 
I don't see what is particularly ridiculous about those criticisms. His passing, for a player playing regularly in midfield, is distinctly average. Someone like Carrick, for example, is a far, far better passer. Fellaini's passing usually involves him tentatively shifting it off to whoever's beside him because he knows he's not a good passer.

And his aerial threat is distinctly average considering his height. He consistently squanders chances when he does get them, and doesn't win anywhere near the number of aerial duels as he should for someone of his size. No one's saying he's awful in the air, but he's basically moderately okay there because of his size. He certainly doesn't offer enough of an attacking threat. Useful for defending set-pieces/corners though.

That vs "the worst player the PL has seen" or "can't pass more than 5 yards" is a big difference. Besides, Carrick is a better paser because that is his strength. As for his aerial ability, he has had some bad outings this year in regards to that but in general he is very good in the air - at Everton and last season he proved that quite a lot of times.

So yes, there is something very ridiculous about those "worst ever" 'criticisms'
 
That vs "the worst player the PL has seen" or "can't pass more than 5 yards" is a big difference. Besides, Carrick is a better paser because that is his strength. As for his aerial ability, he has had some bad outings this year in regards to that but in general he is very good in the air - at Everton and last season he proved that quite a lot of times.

So yes, there is something very ridiculous about those "worst ever" 'criticisms'

People exaggerate. It's what happens. A lot of Fellaini fans seem to take over the top criticisms of him in an equally over the top, offended and literal manner. I'm sure no one thinks he's the worst ever player we've had, or the worst passer in footballing history.

And his aerial ability really is quite average for someone of his height. Again, he's very useful for defending corners when the ball comes in his direction and he can get rid of it. But when it comes to getting a shot on target and threatening a keeper, for instance, he's often hilariously bad, and offers little offensively in that regard for someone who's being touted as a decent attacking option.
 
I admit I don't like Fellaini in terms of I just hate watching him play football, it's not what I want to see on a pitch, especially for United. His defenders are rabid at times but the thing I wonder is do even they think he's a player who should be a regular in a United team if we are to try and get back to where we were?
 
I admit I don't like Fellaini in terms of I just hate watching him play football, it's not what I want to see on a pitch, especially for United. His defenders are rabid at times but the thing I wonder is do even they think he's a player who should be a regular in a United team if we are to try and get back to where we were?

Yeah I do. At least as part of the squad - he can do that job very well. He's a better player than the likes of Cleverly and Young who have had careers here.
 
Yeah I do. At least as part of the squad - he can do that job very well. He's a better player than the likes of Cleverly and Young who have had careers here.
Cleverley, yes. Young, no way.
 
Yeah I do. At least as part of the squad - he can do that job very well. He's a better player than the likes of Cleverly and Young who have had careers here.

Being better than Cleverley shouldn't be the barometer for deciding if a player is good enough to be in United's team though to be fair.
 
Being better than Cleverley shouldn't be the barometer for deciding if a player is good enough to be in United's team though to be fair.

Well there was a time on here that my suggestion of him being better than Cleverley was laughed at.

Cleverley, yes. Young, no way.

Agree to disagree I suppose. If you were building a team and you could have one of the two which one would you have? I'd pick Fellaini. On his day he can be almost unstoppable.
 
Yeah I do. At least as part of the squad - he can do that job very well. He's a better player than the likes of Cleverly and Young who have had careers here.

But why not get a better young CM to come in and actually offer some than other than height in both boxes, he just seems to me that if we are looking to reestablish ourselves has no place in a United shirt in any role.
 
Well there was a time on here that my suggestion of him being better than Cleverley was laughed at.



Agree to disagree I suppose. If you were building a team and you could have one of the two which one would you have? I'd pick Fellaini. On his day he can be almost unstoppable.
His day being the 29th of February?
 
His fecking chest control though boys, the way he brings people into play with that torso is unreal.
 
Chelsea 1:1 Man Utd
Wow. Just jumped for a header. Nice Fellaini. Any chance you might do it when in the box, particularly from a corner?
 
He should be taken off immediately for not clearing that ball in the box. Appalling. Absolutely appalling. Chelsea have come into this since realising they can just walk through our midfield.
 
He started really well, I thought, but faded away as the half progressed.
 
He's been ok but my god that 'defending' that led to the Terry shot should be a sackable offence.
 
Another pointless performance, it's so easy to expose Fellaini, it's ridiculous!
 
Not sure what he was doing for the chance at the end. Started well though before fading away
 
So much for his super aerial ability, physicality and defensive attributes!
 
He started really well, I thought, but faded away as the half progressed.

Yep, started well.. beating players in the middle of the park, winning tackles and really dovetailing well with Carrick. Has gone quiet though. We always seem to start well and fade once we realise our attack isn't going to penetrate a rock solid defence.
 
Him constantly allowing Matic to ghost past him could be costly.
 
Overall, good game so far. Played better in the first 25 minutes or so, just like the rest of the team.
 
As soon as he came off we lost our main outlet which allowed Chelsea to keep coming at us. Poor decision by LVG to take him off under the circumstances.
 
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