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He was absolutely atrocious. Caused Schneiderlin more problems than the entire Derby team did and repeatedly lost the ball in completely unacceptablle scenarios. It looked like a drunk fan had won a competition to play in the team. I don't get you lot sometimes :lol:
 
Okay he was actually pretty decent today but I keep seeing this all the time and it's infuriating...



Someone should do a montage of all his touches in this game and force everyone in this thread to watch it, with a reminder that he was supposed to be playing as a central midfielder.

I don't know if he's just getting pity points or what but feck me.
 
He was absolutely atrocious. Caused Schneiderlin more problems than the entire Derby team did and repeatedly lost the ball in completely unacceptablle scenarios. It looked like a drunk fan had won a competition to play in the team. I don't get you lot sometimes :lol:

Totally agree. The lad is a make-up job & unicycle away from being an actual clown.
 
He was absolutely atrocious. Caused Schneiderlin more problems than the entire Derby team did and repeatedly lost the ball in completely unacceptablle scenarios. It looked like a drunk fan had won a competition to play in the team. I don't get you lot sometimes :lol:

Nope, come on Noods, he was never that bad! I could understand if you'd said Mata looked like one of the ball boys having a knock about with the grown ups the way he was being rag dolled most of the game although he scored so fair fecks to him. That'll get him off the hook to a large degree.

Fellaini did a lot of the donkey work and was an out ball to keep the team ticking over. A good team will always be better than the sum of its parts if everyone contributes something different which mostly happened last night, including the big fella......
 
I agree with noodlehair. I must have been watching a different game than some of you. Horrible performance, can't dribble or pass, and was beat in the air fair to often considering that's the only reason he's on the pitch (That and we don't have anyone else). Can't believe how far we've come that this type of performance is hailed by some.
 
I agree with noodlehair. I must have been watching a different game than some of you. Horrible performance, can't dribble or pass, and was beat in the air fair to often considering that's the only reason he's on the pitch (That and we don't have anyone else). Can't believe how far we've come that this type of performance is hailed by some.

I agree, you must have been! It seems that you and others are expecting Fellaini to be a certain type of player and are then judging him by those standards rather than appreciating what he is actually bringing to the team. I like watching him generally tbh and certainly appreciate him. I wouldn't want a team full of Fellaini's but then I wouldn't have wanted a team full of Vidic's either.

Whoever said that he was a defensive midfielder (think it may have been Moyes) has really done him a disservice as he is not that. He doesn't have that foot speed or ability to sniff out/read danger. Cue sarky comments here but there aren't many players like big Felli. He brings a lot of power to the team, is a good link man, causes chaos in the opposition's box and helps out in ours. Kind of like powerful, defensive, attacking No.10....if there could ever be such a thing. I think he's valuable to us used the right way....which is not as a Plan B target man.

None of that is to say I don't want us to invest in more and better midfielders but it is a squad game these days and I think he's worth his place.
 
One of his better games but, the problem I think is he's being given this role where he is neither an attacker or a defensive mid which leads to him not helping Schneiderlin and he isn't in the box to get on the end of crosses. He is not a dribbler or passer - so obviously he is not going to light up the game. Hopefully now that Carrick is back, he'll either play behind the striker or not at all because in his current role, he is just not what we need in there.
 
One of his better games but, the problem I think is he's being given this role where he is neither an attacker or a defensive mid which leads to him not helping Schneiderlin and he isn't in the box to get on the end of crosses. He is not a dribbler or passer - so obviously he is not going to light up the game. Hopefully now that Carrick is back, he'll either play behind the striker or not at all because in his current role, he is just not what we need in there.

Spot on!
 
He was absolutely atrocious. Caused Schneiderlin more problems than the entire Derby team did and repeatedly lost the ball in completely unacceptablle scenarios. It looked like a drunk fan had won a competition to play in the team. I don't get you lot sometimes :lol:

:D
 
One of his better games but, the problem I think is he's being given this role where he is neither an attacker or a defensive mid which leads to him not helping Schneiderlin and he isn't in the box to get on the end of crosses. He is not a dribbler or passer - so obviously he is not going to light up the game. Hopefully now that Carrick is back, he'll either play behind the striker or not at all because in his current role, he is just not what we need in there.
Yeah, I agree with you and if we're going to try play him like that then we need to have Ander playing too, similar to how the played last season. Fellaini looked like he was trying to play a similar role to that but without Ander on the other side to compensate that it completely unbalances the midfield. I thought he did a pretty good job of linking up with Martial, giving him an option and occupying defenders to create space for Martial to make his dribbles into the box which I think he has struggle with lately being isolated making it too easy for defenders to box him out.
 
It got glossed over of course, but he was substituted in the Southampton game and we ended up conceding a header from a set piece. Tonight he has yet again defended pretty much every corner we have conceded, not for the first time - I am sure this is a big part of why LVG rarely subs him.

Indeed and LVG highlighted this in the post match interview.
LVG basically was kicking himself for taking off Fellaini and I doubt he'll be doing that in a hurry, again.
This is why, for LVG, after Rooney and maybe DDG, Fellaini is the most important player and fans need to get used to this.

LVG's main objective is to concede zero goals. This enables us to get a draw (if we don't score) or 1-0 win (assuming that we score 1 goal, in line with our average).

I think that the main reason we lost so many games in December was because LVG was bowing to pressure to attack and this completely threw his tactic out of the window, which meant that we were conceding more goals, but needed to score ourselves - which we are unable to do against decent sides.

Summary: I don't like Fellaini, only because he enforces LVGs very negative tactic of trying to win games 1-0. BUT LVG needs Fellaini to enforce his negative tactic.
 
Indeed and LVG highlighted this in the post match interview.
LVG basically was kicking himself for taking off Fellaini and I doubt he'll be doing that in a hurry, again.
This is why, for LVG, after Rooney and maybe DDG, Fellaini is the most important player and fans need to get used to this.

LVG's main objective is to concede zero goals. This enables us to get a draw (if we don't score) or 1-0 win (assuming that we score 1 goal, in line with our average).

I think that the main reason we lost so many games in December was because LVG was bowing to pressure to attack and this completely threw his tactic out of the window, which meant that we were conceding more goals, but needed to score ourselves - which we are unable to do against decent sides.

Summary: I don't like Fellaini, only because he enforces LVGs very negative tactic of trying to win games 1-0. BUT LVG needs Fellaini to enforce his negative tactic.

We are conceeding awful lot goals with Fellaini in the side, stop imagining things.

Ever since he started his "run" against Wolfsburg our defence looks terrible, mostly because we don't have any control in midfield when he plays.

Since he started his run against Wolfsburg, with him as a starter we conceeded 3 against wolfsburg, 2 against Bournemouth, 2 against Norwich, 2 against Stoke, 3 vs Newcastle, and one against Derby. He wasn't on the pitch/was substitued only before Wolfsburg's third goal, all other goals I mentioned we conceeded while he was on the pitch. We kept the clean sheet with him in the team only against Liverpool, game in which de Gea won MOTM, and home vs fecking West Ham - the game we haven't scored either.

The team is absolutely terrible defensively when he is in the team, we don't dominate games with him because he is no central midfielder.
At least before we started playing him again our defence looked good, and we kind of dominated games, even though the problems in attack were the same. But at least we weren't conceeding lot, and our defenders actually looked good. Before his first start in december against West Ham we conceeded just two goals in 6 games, after that he started playing and we conceeded 6 goals in 4 games. Then again, he was benched for two games in PL and we conceeded one goal. In the next game he started we conceeded 3 vs Newcastle. Admittedly, in next two games we haven't conceeded with him on the pitch, but we were absolutely terrible in those two games(Liverpool and Soton) and could have conceeded at least goal or two against Liverpool if it wasn't for de Gea.

And those 1:0 or 0:0 results with Fellaini playing are obviously something you just invented considering just one 1:0 and two 0:0s happened with Fellaini as a starter, and both of those 0:0 were terrible result considering they were against West Ham and Southampton at Old Trafford.
 
@Amar__ Pretty much spot on. As much as Fellaini has plenty of height which can be useful when it comes to defending corners (and often is), it's negated by the fact that he his positional sense makes David Luiz look like Paolo Maldini. Not to mention that we shouldn't have to be relying on a central midfielder to be one of our main defensive players in our own penalty box. That should primary be the job of the defenders.

I do think @sunama makes a reasonable point as to what LVG's intended strategy is though. He'll see Fellaini's sporadic defensive contributions, and view them as being valuable. Because he believes it makes us better defensively...despite the fact that our defensive record doesn't really get any better.
 
I feel like a lot of you only remember the one or two aerial duels he loses in a game and ignore the ones he wins. There are a lot of comments like, "he always gets beat in the air" which is just not true at all.
 
Nope, come on Noods, he was never that bad! I could understand if you'd said Mata looked like one of the ball boys having a knock about with the grown ups the way he was being rag dolled most of the game although he scored so fair fecks to him. That'll get him off the hook to a large degree.

Fellaini did a lot of the donkey work and was an out ball to keep the team ticking over. A good team will always be better than the sum of its parts if everyone contributes something different which mostly happened last night, including the big fella......

He was that bad. Everyone I watched with was laughing at him. It's genuinely unbelievable that people watched the game and thought he was any better than awful.

It is actually a pity thing isn't it? He played one half decent pass and headed the ball to a team mate a couple of times, so lets ignore the countless times he passed the ball to no one or lost the ball due to his complete inability to control it. Or his non existence in midfield, where he was supposedly playing. It's like when the bad kid in class throws a tantrum, rips up his homework, punches the teacher, but then gets a merit for spelling their name right on the detention form.
 
He was that bad. Everyone I watched with was laughing at him. It's genuinely unbelievable that people watched the game and thought he was any better than awful.

It is actually a pity thing isn't it? He played one half decent pass and headed the ball to a team mate a couple of times, so lets ignore the countless times he passed the ball to no one or lost the ball due to his complete inability to control it. Or his non existence in midfield, where he was supposedly playing. It's like when the bad kid in class throws a tantrum, rips up his homework, punches the teacher, but then gets a merit for spelling their name right on the detention form.

It was as good a performance as you're ever realistically going to get from fellaini in midfield.
He made a lot of clearances and he had a couple of nice exchanges with martial.
Schneiderlin and mata can take a share of credit for our midfield being anonymous yesterday anyway.

Not a fan of him there but thats as good as it gets with him in midfield.
 
It was as good a performance as you're ever realistically going to get from fellaini in midfield.
He made a lot of clearances and he had a couple of nice exchanges with martial.
Schneiderlin and mata can take a share of credit for our midfield being anonymous yesterday anyway.

Not a fan of him there but thats as good as it gets with him in midfield.

He was pathetically bad. He is every tiime he plays there.

As long as he is in our team, especially as a central midfielder, there is no point talking about pushing on or improving from where we currently are, because we'll always be a team struggling to cope with the burden of Fellaini.

It might sound like I'm taking the piss but I'm not. That's genuinely where we're at with him. It is where we've been with him for some amount of time.

There is no shape or control or flow to our play with Fellaini, there is only trying to find a way to struggle through the game.
 
He was pathetically bad. He is every tiime he plays there.

As long as he is in our team, especially as a central midfielder, there is no point talking about pushing on or improving from where we currently are, because we'll always be a team struggling to cope with the burden of Fellaini.

It might sound like I'm taking the piss but I'm not. That's genuinely where we're at with him. It is where we've been with him for some amount of time.

There is no shape or control or flow to our play with Fellaini, there is only trying to find a way to struggle through the game.

See, I occasionally wANT to be kind to Fellaini and just cuddle his afro cause he seems like a cool guy, but then I see posts like this and they're pretty much spot on. We need to sell him to AC Milan. Or Kilmarnock.
 
We need to sell him to AC Milan. Or Kilmarnock.
or keep him.

We're too soft without him. Morgan Schneiderlin didn't find himself well in the team yet, Bastian is injury prone and so is Michael Carrick!
 
It will be hilarious when some of our players are still shit once the big bad buffoon is sold and will no longer be able inhibit their outrageous ability by his mere presence.

Who will the next scapegoat be I wonder. Rooney is always a good bet but Lingard seems to be the current flavour of the month on the caf.
 
It will be hilarious when some of our players are still shit once the big bad buffoon is sold and will no longer be able inhibit their outrageous ability by his mere presence.

Who will the next scapegoat be I wonder. Rooney is always a good bet but Lingard seems to be the current flavour of the month on the caf.

He isn't solely to be blamed for our struggles at all but him playing as a CM, pulls everyone down, there's no denying it. The guy's clueless there and it puts extra burden on whoever is partnering him. Schneiderlin, Carrick or BFS won't suddenly turn to Xavi if Fellaini wasn't next to him but atleast, they won't have to worry about covering for him half the time. Positioning, passing, mobility, awareness, the guy has nothing to play in CM.
 
It will be hilarious when some of our players are still shit once the big bad buffoon is sold and will no longer be able inhibit their outrageous ability by his mere presence.

Who will the next scapegoat be I wonder. Rooney is always a good bet but Lingard seems to be the current flavour of the month on the caf.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link and he is currently our weakest link by a country mile.
Its inevitable that no matter what team you line out, there are weaknesses, but I can't recall such a stand out weakness as Fellaini who's been persisted with by the inept manager. Even Fergie knew Bebe was crap and took it on the chin!
 
I've said since we signed him that as a CM he's a shocking player for our supposed level.

Even in this poor United side he stands out - and the criticism against him are the exact same that's been thrown his way since we signed him: Exactly what qualities does he bring to the team of any use, as a midfielder?

The answer to that question is none. Not a single one. He can't pass, can't defend, can't run, can't dribble, is quite stupid and lacks the footballing intelligence to function there, he's slow, he's a walking free kick and his technical level is quite simply embarrassing. And for all the talk of this "bite" he's going to bring, he's losing duels because of slow reactions and no balance - not winning them. He can't tackle either. He's not better at anything a midfielder is supposed to do than any random academy player getting thrown into the mix would be.

If you ask what qualities he'd bring to the team as a supporting striker or a nuisance in the box, sure, he could have his uses. But that kind of option belongs at West Brom, not United. When we try this supposed plan B, what little is left of our game goes to shit. And even judging solely by that standard, as if that was all he's supposed to be judged by, he's been a disappointment - missing easy chances, losing every second aerial duel and so forth.

In short he's been a shocking player bar a couple of matches as our most advanced midfielder last spring, where basically his function was to bring down long hoofs and get Herrera/Mata on the ball.

Where are the clowns that told me that this man would be a good signing for United?
 
He isn't solely to be blamed for our struggles at all but him playing as a CM, pulls everyone down, there's no denying it. The guy's clueless there and it puts extra burden on whoever is partnering him. Schneiderlin, Carrick or BFS won't suddenly turn to Xavi if Fellaini wasn't next to him but atleast, they won't have to worry about covering for him half the time. Positioning, passing, mobility, awareness, the guy has nothing to play in CM.

He didn't pull anyone down last season and he's not doing it this season. Everyone has been dogshit but Fellaini walks away with all the blame for some reason.
 
He didn't pull anyone down last season and he's not doing it this season. Everyone has been dogshit but Fellaini walks away with all the blame for some reason.
He was playing in a role that suits him best last season. Why would he pull others down? He was actually a big reason why we finished in the top 4. LVG seems to have erased the lessons learnt from last season from his memory though and is using him in a role which he's shit at to put it bluntly. It isn't even fellaini's fault, he can't say "I won't play because I'm not good enough there" when LVG picks him to play CM.
 
He was playing in a role that suits him best last season. Why would he pull others down? He was actually a big reason why we finished in the top 4. LVG seems to have erased the lessons learnt from last season from his memory though and is using him in a role which he's shit at to put it bluntly. It isn't even fellaini's fault, he can't say "I won't play because I'm not good enough there" when LVG picks him to play CM.

He's still playing the same role. Starting in midfield and breaking forward from there. The only difference is he hasn't hit the form of last season. Not sure how that excuses Schneideelin being incompetent with and without the ball.
 
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