devilish
Juventus fan who used to support United
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Definitely a poor game. I would say a draw would have been a fair result.
they had more chances than we did.
Definitely a poor game. I would say a draw would have been a fair result.
Like few others getting slightly carried away there, de gea man of match by a country mile. Did well for the goal but at the end of the day it was a header off target that fell kindly and that doesn't make up for another poor performance. Lots of players were poor today though so int that context he did ok.
Not in the least.... The lad was shite as usual.
He had a very good gameHe was quite good today I thought.
Like few others getting slightly carried away there, de gea man of match by a country mile. Did well for the goal but at the end of the day it was a header off target that fell kindly and that doesn't make up for another poor performance. Lots of players were poor today though so int that context he did ok.
Klopp can bring in Caulker as a big man upfront to save the game,yet we cant do that with Fellaini without massive whining.
He's effective , much more than some of the fan favourites. I'm glad we dont have to play against him, and hope that he pushes on like last season.
He was today, but it's the first time he's been effective in a considerable while.
The bashing on here has always been ridiculously harsh. He does a lot more than most give him credit for here.
Like few others getting slightly carried away there, de gea man of match by a country mile. Did well for the goal but at the end of the day it was a header off target that fell kindly and that doesn't make up for another poor performance. Lots of players were poor today though so int that context he did ok.
De Gea made one save, if I remember correctly (feel free to correct me on this). And that, too, was a standard save.
Thought that he doesn't win headers (especially against 4 players at once) and was supposed to get sent off?
I wouldn't be reluctant to give him praise, I actually don't hate the guy like some people seem to. He had a good game, he seemed to be everywhere and really was an important presence.He had a very good game
Don't be reluctant to give the guy praise
Was very important throughout
Rooney was shite for half a season but has got 5 in 4 games.He was today, but it's the first time he's been effective in a considerable while.
Rooney was shite for half a season but has got 5 in 4 games.
Players go through dry spells.With Fellaini its because he's shite.
The criticism with him is over the top. None of midfield and strikeforce has been playing well recently. Even Herrera who I like too, but the abuse levels vary significantly.
I wouldn't be reluctant to give him praise, I actually don't hate the guy like some people seem to. He had a good game, he seemed to be everywhere and really was an important presence.He had a very good game
Don't be reluctant to give the guy praise
Was very important throughout
Such a vile personality.
Not for a long while he hasn't. His header which contributed to the goal today is the sort of stuff he needs to be doing on a much more regular basis, for example.
The positive spin is that he has at least been consistently getting into good positions to score and create. Obviously he has missed a few chances that I would have expected him to put away, but that shouldn't merit the level of abuse he receives every single game from our own fans.
I think he has been short on confidence lately, as well as not fitting into the current system as well as last year. He is definitely capable of much better but at no point do I think he has been one of our worst 2-3 players, for example.
Aggression doesn't have to mean committing senseless fouls in the name of passion. Iniesta shows more passion than any of our players but by using a brain
I doubt either of you would have the same view if it was a player you liked.Agreed. He hasn't really shown passion as such. He just shoved over an opposition player with whom he had a scrap.
This season? He's been in and around the worst bunch. I'd be hard pressed to name any regular first team players who have been much worse. Darmian, maybe. Rooney too for a good while, but he's improved lately.
Schneiderlin and Darmian after bright starts have both been terrible lately. Rooney was atrocious for most of the season, so has Memphis been. Mata and Herrera never seem to actually do anything either
Even when Fellaini is having a bad game, you can normally rely on him to contribute defensively, put himself about and give us options. Other players tend to go into their shells and be anonymous, whereas Fellaini will keep running and asking for the ball. His attitude is spot on in my opinion and I quite like the combative side of him - especially in Derby games like today where we sorely lack any real bite or steel from our other players at times.
Based on the above, I don't think it is any surprise or coincidence that LVG has given Fellaini a good amount of playtime and rarely subs him - he can be relied on to continue to run, work and contribute even when things aren't going his way. And days like today he can still pop up with an important contribution.
His work ethic is only useful when it actually adds anything though - like today, with a goal contribution. He runs about a lot but as a result it often results in daft fouls which get him booked, or going completely awol positionally.
I don't want to sound too harsh on him though, because I did think he was alright today and one of our better outfield players.
I think this is a bit harsh and that it is rather holding Fellaini to a much higher standard than others because he is deemed "not good enough".
On the pitch, I meant.You've met him before, have you?