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Sure, but my point is that - in the managers eyes if not the fans - I don't think you ever really get less that a 5 or 6 out of 10 from Fellaini. That even if things aren't going his way and the team is playing badly, that he will continue to contribute, to make defensive tackles, headers and clearances, track runners and generally get up and down the pitch and give the opponent something to think about.
Conversely players like Herrera, Mata, Memphis and Schneiderlin can be completely invisible if they are having a bad game or even if it's just that the team overall is playing poorly. Essentially I think their minimum performance level is a lot lower than Fellainis and that that is important to LVG, and also why Fellaini does not tend to get subbed off often.
It;s nothing to do with players I like or don't like. I don't think football should be played which such barbaric attitude whether he plays for United or not. It seems very English to define aggression as getting stuck to let your opponent know you are around. This is wrong football. Football should be played from your brain to your legs not just heart to legs. For this reason I did not like Rooney when he had his supposedly "red mist" or "fire in the belly" moments. It is a poor excuse for a footballer not to control their aggression on the pitch. You would hardly see players more passionate than Maldini for Milan but he wasn't an animal, was he? I do a bit of coaching for young people and I will not be asking them to be physical on a player. What are we going to teach them next? How to use your elbows efficiently? This is why Rooney can not stand with the likes of Iniesta, Lahm and other top players. Fire in your belly is not the licence to be physical but to creative.
So whether it is Fellaini or Joey Barton or Pepe or Costa or Cattermole it should not be celebrated. We pay to watch intelligent footballers not animals.
People always complain about something. He adds a rawness to us which I like, as we're too 'nice'. I'm glad he contained himself and he did well for the goal. It's been a season whereby it's just not gone in for him. I think he's a valuable squad member. I think he was brave today. Took a nasty head knock from Lucas in the first half and then later jumps in again to compete. Some people don't see that though. We cannot have a team full of people we 'like' and he had to compete to win his header and he was unlucky not to score the winner.
Cant see him staying beyond the summer.
Much better today given that he was allowed to get higher up the pitch and bring long balls down rather than trying to protect the back 4.
Thank you Moyes for your unmatched wisdom.
We scored when he finally decided to jump and realise he can win a header that way. TBH, I think thats what he should be used for, set pieces near the end to cause trouble, not starting as a DM...
Out of interest, are you English/British? The reason I ask is it seems to mostly be a British trait to see passion and physicality going hand in hand. Obviously there's a balance between stupidly and physicality, but I think Fellaini walked the right side of the line today. I read before the game that he's only been sent off twice in the PL, so I think he knows how to walk that line.
I personally enjoy slating him but in all honesty he gives the team something different. Might not look classy or spectacular but offers variation and that's something this team needs.
The onus is down to rest to compliment what he offers well, little things like going for the second ball and not burdening him with creative passing responsibilities.
The onus is down to rest to compliment what he offers well, little things like going for the second ball and not burdening him with creative passing responsibilities.
Or pretty much any other responsibilities at all
Anyone who doesn't want the players representing their club to act over-aggressively or be prone to thuggish behaviour.
Did he kill someone? What did he do that was so bad?
I didn't see the first 30 minutes of the match so I don't know how he was during that period, but after that he was one of our best players. Probably the best match I can remember him having in that deeper role.
His movement was a hell of a lot better today than it has been lately. He was actually moving into good positions to provide an option for others to pass to, and he also did a fair bit of good work defensively. There were still moments he did get caught out of position, but nowhere near as much as what normally happens when he plays that position.
His movement was a hell of a lot better today than it has been lately. He was actually moving into good positions to provide an option for others to pass to, and he also did a fair bit of good work defensively. There were still moments he did get caught out of position, but nowhere near as much as what normally happens when he plays that position.
Things like tackling is too late for him to master, one of the reason Moyes stopped using him in a deep role because he always left the team exposed thru late challenges or losing the ball cheaply.
That said he needs people to be mobile around him to mitigate his lack of awareness to make cutting or telling passes, having movement will make sure play doesn't stop when he has the ball.
Don't get me wrong he is not my ideal player and can't wait for him do awkward stuff so I can heckle him but he tries his best. So the least that can be done if we are gonna stick with him is create the right conditions.
He was pretty good in the second half. And he doesn't actually gets sent off. Limited footballer with odd skills, but did fine today.
Not by birth no but I learnt some football from the continent and have had coaches that played around the world. I suffered the same fate when I moved to England as a kid. A crunching tackle was more celebrated than a quick succession of one touch passes. I have always been though that aggression is a mental state of mind rather than a physical interpretation. I had to learn to win the ball with minimal contact with the opposition player by reading the movement of the ball (speed and spin) ,anticipation of the player, spatial awareness (open spaces and occupied spaces). It seems a lot but these are the things that make footballers intelligent, by using their heads.
I thought he played really well today and helped to kill Liverpool's intense pressing on a fair few occasions, especially towards the end of the game. Also attracted 4 Liverpool players to him for the goal.
4 Liverpool-players all attacking Fellaini - and lost. People can complain about us being lucky, but you can't possible defend any worse than that
Thought he was great today, really wish he'd put in more performances like he does against the victims, he's a lot better than most United fans think.
So more like rolling subs? Bring him on when we have a set piece and take him off straight away? I'd like that!
He was better in central midfield today but still a liability at times. Deserves credit for the goal too.
Glad to see people recognizing his effort today... played well, you forget how valuable he can be defensively he can be especially towards the end of the game when balls are being pumped into the box.
I still think he could be a valuable squad player for us
I still think he could be a valuable squad player for us
It's amazing that he gets in a Man Utd team just because he can chest a ball.
It's like Delap making an entire PL career out of throw-ins.
It's like Delap making an entire PL career out of throw-ins.
I thought he played really well today, deserves a bit of credit.
Good lord. I hate this hipster nonsense about right football and wrong football. But then again, you think Fellaini wouldn't even get in most Championship teams so you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
He really is a prick, putting his head in on Lucas (after stepping on his foot), claiming a non-existent handball penalty, and just generally marauding round the place being a twat, but he was comfortably our best midfielder today and instrumental in the winning goal.
He was our best midfielder because there is a fight in him. That is a good thing no matter.
I never made to any professional level neither am I claiming to be omniscient, its just my opinion. If you think it's OK that football should be played like that, fine with you. That is also your opinion. I don't know what is hipster about if mate.
IIRC, I said most top championship sides and I stand by it. Just because a player plays for a PL team doesn't it now mean he is PL pedigree? About not knowing what am talking about, shouldn't be your issue here.
He's had one outstanding match against us, one. That's the famous match from 12/13, first match of the season, we had a shitload of injuries and started with Valencia as a right back Carick as a centre half. We had a central midfield with Cleverly and Scholes.
The thuggishness was exactly what was required. Players likee Roy Keane did it too. Of course he was a much better player but there are surely lots here who worship Keane due to his committment in fights
So have most of his teammates during the tenure of his spell here.
They still dont get as much abuse
You arent the first to say that.
It's like Valencia, he's sale is greatly predicted yet whether the manager changes or not, he tends to remain.
Yeah, that sums it up pretty well. Probably his best performance this season.
Eh, not sure I agree with that. Mata and Memphis can be invisible, sure. But Morgan and Herrera are both grafters -- they do as much, probably more, defensive work than Fellaini does. The latter is more noticeable only because of his tendency to get involved in silly scuffles. Strong performance today, though.
Really strange comment, can't have been paying much attention to the game.
Easily one of our least shit players today.
Played as a defensive midfielder and had a good game. Can we now end the myth of "he's only a target man" ?
Love the reluctance. Some people seriously must be gutted
No reluctance at all, there is just no point getting carried away because he won a header, it doesn't make up for a poor game and a really poor seasons of far. I said he wasn't man of the match which clearly he wasn't, he gets a lot of unfair criticism at times but equally some of the praise he gets is laughable, clearly a case of some people on both sides being desperate to be right so one good or bad moment is seen as defining.
So much better. Actually used his size and strength.
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