I guess you're right. Once we manage to get a decent defensive midfielder I'm convinced he'll be off. He's just not a Manchester United style footballer.
Despite that, LVG seems to trust him.
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I guess you're right. Once we manage to get a decent defensive midfielder I'm convinced he'll be off. He's just not a Manchester United style footballer.
Despite that, LVG seems to trust him.
Its not really a criticism. It isn't his game to be creative. He doesn't make incisive passes or clever dribbles. He usually does the messy stuff and the fundamental stuff right. When he doesn't do it though, he doesn't offer anything.
Why don't you relax
You just called him "the least creative player in the league" though. It's a silly statement. He's not even the least creative player in our team.
Worst he's played in a good while, and like a lot of our players, he looked tentative and sloppy. But he's enough brownie points in the bank for him to be allowed to move on from it.
Yep, that was a clear red card.
Exactly. He is not a proper central midfield player.
He did well when he was on the right and the opposition was sitting back. That allowed him to run to box and make himself useful. Or run back to win goal kicks from either keeper. Got shown up tonight under the press when he only had to make simple passes.
Stood up well second half after a poor first. Really got stuck in the last fifteen minutes. Bad day for him overall but at least he kept at it and showed character to help battle for the win.
Basically this.
Second half from him wasn't *as* bad, showed some character like the rest of the side to grind out a result somehow.
Thread has gone basically as expected. He's back to being a conference standard player, worst player to ever wear the shirt, second coming of satan etc etc.
In reality, a poor first half. Was one of the worst but let's be honest there were a handful that were just as equally bad. Yes he gave the ball away for the goal but it could have easily been Rojo, Evans, McNair, Rooney, or Mata that did that. Just happened to be him. Wanyama beat him physically which makes me wonder how fit he was. Last season when he was playing injured he was poor and he was under some doubt before the match, maybe he just cannot play well when he has some kind of issue?
Anyway, LvG didn't help him by shifting him into the CDM role. He struggles with the off the ball stuff in that position and it showed. However, he did improve in the 2nd half and started to dominate again - winning headers and tackles. So overall, a poor game compared to his recent stuff but let's not go over the top considering he has been our 2nd best player for the past month.
In reality, a poor first half. Was one of the worst but let's be honest there were a handful that were just as equally bad. Yes he gave the ball away for the goal but it could have easily been Rojo, Evans, McNair, Rooney, or Mata that did that. Just happened to be him. Wanyama beat him physically which makes me wonder how fit he was. Last season when he was playing injured he was poor and he was under some doubt before the match, maybe he just cannot play well when he has some kind of issue?
Anyway, LvG didn't help him by shifting him into the CDM role. He struggles with the off the ball stuff in that position and it showed. However, he did improve in the 2nd half and started to dominate again - winning headers and tackles. So overall, a poor game compared to his recent stuff but let's not go over the top considering he has been our 2nd best player for the past month.
His positioning has never been his strong point. He's a box to box player, sitting in a role that requires him to have a footballing brain doesn't work.
It's not his fault, he was played out of position. Didn't have the best of games before the switch though, and just hoping this is a one off and he's back to form and drops Gerrard next week with the peoples elbow.
It's not his fault, he was played out of position. Didn't have the best of games before the switch though, and just hoping this is a one off and he's back to form and drops Gerrard next week with the peoples elbow.
He was so bad last season his performances over the last few games were an improvement. Fails to convince he should be anywhere near first a team regular at United.
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Played nowhere near as well as he's showed recently. His passing was probably the worst out of any player out there.
awful. Not good enough for us. Fair play to him his recent performances have improved but the last 2 games were poor
Poor tonight but not he only one! Rooney McNair Mata Evans take your pick
Who offers less creativity from a midfield position?
We'll see if he plays against Liverpool whether tonight was just a bad day. I don't think he'll get in the eleven personally, I wouldn't select him purely because this will be a high tempo game with crap defences at both ends so in effect we should match them. At the same time by all accounts he didn't train so maybe the 3-5-2 set up further outlined his deficiencies in that way. Never want to see him against a team with quick players to be the anchor because he hasn't the composure to transmit calmness on the ball that a Carrick/Blind/Fletcher do. As a box to box he's shown signs of his best days at Everton.
Would anybody except Walrus, not swap him for Jedinak who is the most similar player in the league and also a more effective one?
Look, you said something silly. Just accept it and move on.
Crystal Palace fans wouldn't either!
This thread is so fecking unbearable when he has a game off. All the people who don't post here after he's had a decent game swarm this place like flies swarm shit. I'd start worrying for Jimmy because I haven't seen him for ages here, wasn't it for today's game.
You should see the Ronaldo thread. He gets shit after scoring hattricks.
He was desperate tonight. He looked so slow and immobile and his passing was embarrassing. Very much like the Fellaini of last season.
That said, it's unfair to criticise him too harshly considering how well he's played the last 2 months. Ultimately I don't think he should be a long term first teamer at Utd but for now he's fine and up until tonight he's been very effective.
I think he'll start on Sunday, with how weak Liverpool are from set pieces he should cause havoc.
That said, it's unfair to criticise him too harshly considering how well he's played the last 2 months. Ultimately I don't think he should be a long term first teamer at Utd but for now he's fine and up until tonight he's been very effective.
I think he'll start on Sunday, with how weak Liverpool are from set pieces he should cause havoc.
Can't pass, so can't be used in midfield.. Sadly can't be used period. Clumsy, no movement no passing range.. Heading is his only attribute..
My my, the WUMs have really come out of the woodwork tonight.
I wouldn't. At all. Fellaini is a much, much better player.
In what ways is Fellaini a better player than Jedinak?
They are back in full force. Couldnt wait for their chance. 
Imagine he had a poor game and that automatically means he's not good enough for us.
Well at least he's the only player who had a bad game, isn't he..
Imagine he had a poor game and that automatically means he's not good enough for us.
Well at least he's the only player who had a bad game, isn't he..
In almost every facet of the game. Maybe from a defensive perspective they are similar in tackling ability but that is about it. Oh, Jedinak has a better free kick on him.
They are back in full force. Couldnt wait for their chance.
Imagine he had a poor game and that automatically means he's not good enough for us.
Well at least he's the only player who had a bad game, isn't he..
Some fans are just pathetic, don't show up when he plays well so they can't moan then crawl out of the woodwork when he has a bad game but failing to mention we as a team were shite.
The alternative is that some people don't think he's actually playing that well but can't be arsed arguing otherwise because every criticism is interpreted as some kind of agenda post and gets hounded out. Talking about Fellaini isn't really worth that kind of hassle. He's singled out for criticism more often than others because he's cumbersome, sloppy, careless and inexplicably elbows people an obscene amount of times. His style of play simply will make him unattractive to some people and I don't see why people take issue with that - it's completely understandable. That's not an agenda that's an honest and reasonable reaction to a player's game. It doesn't mean the criticism isn't valid.
If you watch him for the goal you'll see what he does almost every time he's tracking back and a cross is coming in - he's slow to get there in the first place and because he's still on the move by the time the ball comes in he's not actually in a position to get his head on it. Is he even able to sprint? I don't think he's in any way lazy but I genuinely can't think of a time when I've seen him really bust a gut to get back, it's very odd.
Yup. Its as if all they're trying to prove is that he's not good enough and are happy as hell when he plays bad..
There was some stat posted that he's made the most high intense runs from our team untill some point ( can't remember during which match it was posted ) so yea, I guess he can sprint although he's not going to leave trials of fire behind him while doing so.
You know, I don't mind the criticism, it's very noble that you're pointing out rather fair reasons to dislike him for, although you'll find many disliking him because he's simply a) Fellaini b) Moyes player. It is agenda though when one makes odd 92 posts in thread of a player he doesn't like and most of them are full of shit or of incredible substance such as 'would you trade him for Jedinak?'.
I just can't understand why would anybody bother with that. I didn't like Cleverley and I didn't reside in his thread talking shit about him 24/7, I won't jump out of Rooney's birthday cake yet I don't slate him after every game, you know, this criticism isn't pointed at you as I hardly see you here, but some could simply feck off because it's looking rather silly really.
After today's game you could probably hang half of the team by their balls yet I assume that out of all players' threads, this one is the most active for the negative reason. I'd actually start with hanging one who implemented that stupid 352 formation I'm starting to be obsessed with.
I have talked about this when almost everyone was blinded by his LVG rise... Today we got pressed and his lacking came crystal clear. Used his strength very well after we got the second goal.. Heading and clearing it was top notch in the last 15 tonight.. He is not a man utd calibre midfielder.
Some terrible, loose passing but you can say that about most of our players today.
There were a few poor performances throughout the team tonight, but Fellaini was the worst of the lot. Terrible. Back to his usual self it seems.
My view on Fellaini is known, Brwned sums up nicely why many just don't bother, he had a few decent games and you'd think he'd turned into Scholes, Keane, Pirlo, Redondo etc......and any negativity was swarmed on by his fan club. If LvG wants to play possession football that is aesthetically pleasing, then long term he has no place here, and the suggestions that our midfield is sorted with him as part of the solution is massively wide of the mark.
As for tonight he was poor but so were the CM's around him once Carrick got moved into defense. The role he was given tonight took away his most useful attributes.
As for tonight he was poor but so were the CM's around him once Carrick got moved into defense. The role he was given tonight took away his most useful attributes.
I guess he's allowed an off day and I'm just glad it was in a game we won. No more please Marouane.
He was awful tonight but he'll have better days. He is an incredible asset to have in the team for defending set pieces and he's saved us countless times in our 5 game winning streak from defending set pieces but I have a feeling he might not be in the first team next season as his passing isn't creative enough to be a man utd player....but he's an incredible squad player to have if LVG can find the right player to replace him over the summer and he has been our third best player this year but the jury is very much still out
Shit, shit player who's recent run of good form has made people believe he's good enough for this team going forward. I'm not convinced. Sell this guy in summer
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