He's not the only one but it's not the formations fault he can't pass the ball very well, he is also constantly out of position in this half and just jogging back after he gets too far forward.
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He's not the only one but it's not the formations fault he can't pass the ball very well, he is also constantly out of position in this half and just jogging back after he gets too far forward.
Acknowledge that everybody is.
Not to mention that he's playing at CDM the second half which is not his position.
I don't care if it's his position or not he has to adapt his game not just keep playing the same way. Look he has had a bad game there is no dressing it up, not the only one by any means but he has been one of the worst players in a bad performance.
Then tell Rooney to play in a fecking central midfield and expect him to perform to his level. Play Herrera as a CDM, Mata looks wank in CM as well, everybody has to adapt or LVG has to stop fecking around with playing people out of their positions by constant changes to the formation?
Playing players out of their position was one of the main whips to lash Moyes last season, same's happening this year.
Terrible performance. Him and loads of others, obviously.
He has been one of the worst but when the entire team looks clueless, I tend to blame the manager and tactics primarily.
In the second half Fellaini has made numerous defensive clearances and interceptions. He has contributed more than Mata or Herrera for me, even if he has made several mistakes as well.
Play with some intelligence it's quite simple, at times you are going to have to do a job and you need to do it as best you can, if you are playing as a dm you don't rush forward aimlessly.
Horrific stuff
LVg mess up no doubt but fellaini has been poor and making a couple of tackles and interceptions is nothing to brag about, mata has been awful I agree.
It's like saying: anybody can play as a goalkeeper, just stand in goal.
It's not like that in the slightest.
It's like saying: anybody can play as a goalkeeper, just stand in goal.
He's played there before so I don't see the big deal and that is also a ridiculous comparison, just accept it he has been poor and you cant take it. When he plays well he is a great player for turning it round and when he is bad it's everyone else's fault.
I have said several times he has been poor so it isn't bragging, just acknowledging that there have been some positive contributions as well - would you rather a player who is at least involved in play even if he is looking a bit off the pace (less so in the second half) or one who is completely anonymous like Mata or Herrera?
No, you're talking shit, I was the first person here to say he's having a horrible game but unlike you, who's got his opinion fixed and can't really think about the reasons why he has been shit today ( like everybody else bar RVP ), I look for a reason why our team is looking like a sack of shit which coincidences with us switching to 352 again.
One word - abysmal
Bad game, he will do better next time.
I thought he was better in the 2nd half. Got a few tackles in and played it simple in possession.
Diabolical performance. Said it was the return of last season's Fellaini at half time, turns out he didnt truly return till the end of the game when he ran his elbow into someone
He was horrendous in the first half, but really stepped up in the second i think. Got stuck in there and is useful in he air
He was shit because he was out of position and kept passing it poorly, formation isn't always going to be tailored to you and he was better against Arsenal in the same formation so look a bit harder.
He really got better in the 2nd half, still not good but kept possession.
I am not going to compliment someone for a couple of tackles and interceptions, he was awful apart from last ten mis or so when he was competent, mata was awful all game but that doesn't make fellaini better.
He's looked as poor in the first half, but if I need to look harder than here you go: he was partnered by Mata in CM since 30th minute when we've switched Paddy with Carrick at the back.
And yea, obviously formation isn't always going to be tailored to him but it isn't fecking tailored to anybody, that's the main problem.
Had a shocker tonight but he was not the only one.
Really poor game. Time and time again he had a clear option and took one touch too many and that option was lost and he found himself in trouble. Worse still was how many he misplaced which instantly heaped pressure on us, one of which leading to their goal.
Hopefully he can get the form he had back.
Hopefully he can get the form he had back.
He always had a nasty side to him at Everton with his elbows and he was lucky not to get booked tonight.
Old Fellaini in the first half, New Fellaini having a bad game in the second...if that makes sense...
Feck off Moyes, seriously.
Horrible first half, better second (not saying much to be fair).
Yeah...the obligatory elbow surge was there
If I got a penny for every time he elbowed someone in the face.
He let midfielders run past him for the two best chances of the match.
Unacceptable.
Unacceptable.
You must really not rate any defenders then.
Again the reason I mention Mata (and Herrera) is because you will see that they will receive maybe 10% of the abuse that Fellaini gets, despite being arguably worse today. Fellaini's first half was his worst of the season without question, but his second wasnt that bad. You were saying earlier in this very thread about how he should still be able to play CDM, yet you are now saying you refuse to acknowledge tackles and interceptions as a worthwhile contribution? What are you expecting him to do from that position then?
From my point of view, the majority of the blame for tonights performance lies with LVG. We thought that with the Herrera/McNair substitution he was realising that the 3-5-2 wasnt working, but in fact it just meant putting Carrick at CB and Fellaini at DM - neither of which are their best positions.
When an individual plays badly, you blame the individual. When the entire team looks bad then you have to look at the tactics and question the manager.
Glad him improved after an utterly dire first half in which he seemed to forget how to pass the ball to people on his side. Not a defensive midfielder, doesn't have the mobility, and lacks the passing to start things off but he filled in well. Went some way to redeeming himself second half but had we drawn I'd be feeling less generous towards him. Two games running Fellaini loses it and the opposition score. That's not good enough.
You'd make a Rolls Royce on Ramos.
Awful first half, slightly better in the second defensively. He's come into form when being a midfield "general". As an anchor he was painful to watch. He's limited to do that role and your limiting his impact on the game. I'd rather Fletcher in anchor than Fellaini if we had to go for one of the two.
To be honest I thought while he improved a bit in the second half he was still rubbish. Won the ball back a few times but made way too many mistakes.
How is he a midfielder when his passing is so poor at times? Even the ones that are successful, you never feel the weight is right. A few times tonight his passes were too slow or bobbly, putting his team mates under pressure. I feel like he doesn't concentrate enough on passing the ball properly.
That's not the point you can't justify a really poor game by saying he did a couple of good things, tackles and interceptions are important but I would be worried if a DM or defender didn't make any and it's nothing to get excited about if the rest of their performance is rubbish. Your clutching at straws.
That was a Fellaini performance from last season! Appalling. I still think with Di Maria out move him up behind the front 2 strikers and have a midfield 3 of Mata, Carrick and Herrera
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