He wasn't tracking back properly on the right side with Baines.
That led to a change in formation with 4-3-3 i think and Wilson had to be shifted out wide left where he struggled then tracking back and couldn't use his pace on the counter that much.
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He wasn't tracking back properly on the right side with Baines.
That led to a change in formation with 4-3-3 i think and Wilson had to be shifted out wide left where he struggled then tracking back and couldn't use his pace on the counter that much.
He must have got instructions to make himself a target higher up the pitch but we couldn't string 3 passes in the last 10 minutes. His problem is he follows the ball instinctively so leaves so much space available.
I thought Mata was marking Barry? You see Mata trailing him into the box on the replay (I think, may be mistaken). People are going to be overly critical but he hasn't played in ages. Cut him some slack.
This forum goes crazy in the Fellaini thread. He really did nothing wrong. What were you guys expecting? Him to come on and dribble past half of the Everton team to score some wonder goal?
It was the last 15 minutes or so. Everyone was defending and so was he.
It was the last 15 minutes or so. Everyone was defending and so was he.
Get out !
No, Fellaini had him for the corner I think. He let him go and then Mata was closer as Barry shot.
He's so poor its unbelievable. Came on and ran around like a donkey.
It's because he is seen as a reminder of the Moyes era. Folk are so desperate to be proven right that he is shite, they will look for any excuse to criticise him.
Fellaini suffers from the fact that he was the CM Moyes bought, but not the one the fans wanted (or perhaps that we needed, at the time). It isn't his fault that we bought him instead of Fabregas, Kroos and Thiago.
This thread is embarrassing. You should criticise LvG if anyone for throwing him on in this kind of situation. Gets absolutely slaughtered for about 10 minutes of football after being out injured. I expected United to fade towards the end but I definitely didn't expect Fellaini to prevent that.
First action in a while. Not surprising that he looked off the pace. Won't kill him based on today's performance.
Exactly. In those last few minutes Mata probably played worse. I bet he's also a "joke" now to these people.
Agreed. I don't know if people just hate the man or expect him to perform like those mentioned midfielders. This thread today once again shows how much unjustifiable hate he gets.
He did fine today when he came on and anyone who says otherwise just doesn't like him.
It's hard to give him the benefit of the doubt because he did nothing last year, but I guess it's only fair to qualify any criticisms with mention of his return from injury and the breakdown in our play at the end.
However, he certainly didn't help matters. I'm overweight and haven't played football for about 3 years now, but even I reckon I could have skipped past him today. He plays like a child, mindlessly running towards the ball with no thought for tactics or shape.
However, he certainly didn't help matters. I'm overweight and haven't played football for about 3 years now, but even I reckon I could have skipped past him today. He plays like a child, mindlessly running towards the ball with no thought for tactics or shape.
He didn't do anything at all, he didn't even defend that's what he came on to do and was useless at it. When compared to Herrera (and Valencia today - he did well but I'm still not a fan) He's not a UTD player. Its better to give Pereira the game time then to waste valuable minutes on this guy.
Right...
Elaborate...
Did he make a tackle, break up play, win a header? Did he do anything useful?
Not the game to criticise him really. We have to put that in some perspective. He didn't have much time and he's been out of action for a long while. We were mainly focused on absorbing pressure at that late stage. Admittedly he was fairly anonymous and looked a bit slow to close down and win back possession. He'll surely get more opportunities to impress Van Gaal and then we'll see where he stands.
Show me a situation where he needed to tackle, break up play or do any of the mentioned things? (besides I remember him breaking up play on 2 occasions in a span of 15 mins but I may be wrong)
In those 15 mins what did Mata do? What did Wilson do? Did they make goals or give assists since that's what they were brought on for? How come no one is bashing Wilson?
Just admit it. You and a bunch of others on here have come to the conclusion that he's shite and unless he does something amazing you'll continue saying that. He did absolutely nothing wrong today and if praising him for that is a bit over the top, criticizing him for not tackling and breaking up play like Arturo Vidal in 15 mins - back from injury - is just being plain unreasonable.
How is this thread embarrassing? people are just commenting on what they witnessed on the pitch. He offered us next to nothing.
If football was played with a 3 second delay, he would be fantastic.
As it is, he's utter shite.
As it is, he's utter shite.
He didn't do anything particularly wrong. He just sticks out like a sore thumb. A bit like Di Maria sticks out because of his intelligence and skill, Fellaini sticks out because he's slow, lethargic, positionally unaware and generally oblivious.
He didn't look out of place last year.
He didn't look out of place last year.
Why did LVG bring him on then? he obviously felt he'd do a job. Nobody expected him to do a Vidal, but barring him from any criticism is ridiculous.
I'm not a hater. I always want him to do well and prove his critics wrong, even if it's just by looking like an adequate squad player (he could never actually live up to his price tag). It's just got to the point where I'm wasting my time and I'd rather go back to hoping it for Anderson instead.
He didn't do anything spectacularly wrong which is why his fans won't allow any criticism. But he will have to do a lot more to still be at the club beyond January.
Maybe because he could get a few minutes under his belt after Injury? Also so he could hold up the ball in case it came forward. He came on as CDM but went upfront later in the game. Last few minutes a big man like Fellaini can hold up play up front really well and he can do a job in defense as well.
Eleven players were defending. Not everyone who is defending has to make a tackle or interception
You guys are harsh. He came on when Everton were starting to dominate. He didn't do anything of not but he wasn't giving away free kicks, being sloppy in possession etc.
Against Everton, in a game that we had to hold onto a vital lead? I highly doubt that. He was brought on to do a defensive job, which although not doing anything terribly wrong, he'll have to do a whole lot more to stay at the club beyond January. He looked clueless.
I'm a Fellaini fan, but I am also not blind so I will criticise one moment when he was marking Naismith on a cross and lost him and let him get a header. It was poor and he has to be better than that. But other than that and maybe one other moment people are just being harsh. He's not match fit and came on when we were sitting back as a team.
It was the wrong substitution, he's obviously not match sharp so couldn't get in sync with the game at such a late stage, that doesn't excuse his woeful positional sense though, he just runs around like a cab horse on glue.
It was a bit of both. Anyway, he didn't do anything wrong today as far as I'm concerned. I really don't know what you guys expected him to do.
Besides, like I said, if you're logic is that he failed because he didn't make tackles did Wilson also fail for not scoring?
Don't be silly.
That's pretty poor.
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You can make logical replies or not reply at all. Just saying "Don't be silly" wont really help.
That post wasn't worth a logical reply. It's a stupid point.
So when you don't have anything left to say you just resort to "Stupid. Silly."
very mature.So when you don't have anything left to say you just resort to "Stupid. Silly."
I'll post what LVG himself had to say.
Does that not tell you that he brought on Fellaini to do a defensive job? the wilson point is silly because he's fecking 18 and made his 2nd appearance for the first team. How can you not see the difference?
He was brought in to break Everton's tempo and failed.
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