The reason we're not talking more about him is because of De Gea's save and Blackett's block. He was awful on that set piece. What is worse is, that's exactly how he is most of the time.
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He and Valencia look so limited on the pitch in terms of their technical ability. At least Tony tries hard though.
This sums it pretty nicely for me.
Very disappointing cameo. It was obvious he was brought on to help the defence but I'm not even sure he won the ball once.
Fellaini is a good player if he plays as an attacker - his Everton and Belgium performance shows us that.
Trying to shoehorn him into a defensive role just does not work.
He's too slow, he cannot mark a player and he's not much of a tackler.
Fellaini is a good player if he plays as an attacker - his Everton and Belgium performance shows us that.
Trying to shoehorn him into a defensive role just does not work.
He's too slow, he cannot mark a player and he's not much of a tackler.
Expected him to replace Mata, not Valencia.
For the people who are clued up on the U21s, is there anyone who can deputise for both Blind and Carrick instead of Fellaini? Pearson?
I'd rather see a kid promoted than see Fellaini play for us again. Like Moyes, he's just not right for us.
I'd rather see a kid promoted than see Fellaini play for us again. Like Moyes, he's just not right for us.
Pereira or Rothwell are the best of our midfield bunch.
Valencia is much better than Fellaini. Fellaini is in his own class of shit
In fairness that was possibly the most inept performance this season. Brainless, lazy and lacking quality all over. That's worth talking about IMO.
In terms of position it's Pearson, Pereira,Harrop and Rothwell are more of Herrera/Di Maria positions.
An over exaggeration I think. Especially since it was only 10 minutes he was on the pitch. There have been some bad performances this season, a lot worse than Fellaini's cameo yesterday.
I can think of some mistake-prone performances by the young players but none which displayed a distinct lack of quality in all areas and a complete unsuitability for the role and system asked to play in. Perhaps Smalling against Leicester? I really can't think of anything else.
Valencia isn't much better than Fellaini. Fellaini was more than decent at Everton.
Is there any hope this guy will come good? As terrible as he has been for us, i want him to succeed, but i just don't see that happening. He looked alright as an AM in Moyes' Everton side, but there is no way he is going to get that spot here.
As a CM, he is way to clumsy and immobile to fit the system we are trying to implement. Yes, he does add some physical presence and aerial ability, but that's about it.
Honestly, i think we should just cut our losses and get rid.
As a CM, he is way to clumsy and immobile to fit the system we are trying to implement. Yes, he does add some physical presence and aerial ability, but that's about it.
Honestly, i think we should just cut our losses and get rid.
What has that got to do with anything? Valencia was more than decent at Wigan.
Both are obviously piss poor but if I was forced to keep one it would be Valencia.
What do you mean "what has that got to do with anything"?
You said he's 'much better', which is a stupid statement.
Fellaini's better than he's shown here. He's not good enough for centre midfield here, but he's a decent enough player.
I don't know on what planet Valencia's much better.
And Valencia was brilliant on his first three years here, way better than Fellaini ever was. And now both of them are shit but Valencia is again a better player.
Valencia in his prime wasn't way better than Fellaini ever was. Both were good at their best.
Completely different roles though obviously.
Neither are good enough, but Valencia's not way/much better, in my opinion.
Where did I say he was "much better"? I don't rate either of them but would rather keep Valencia because he has pace and can play several positions.
Only thing I reacted on was that you were using Fellaini's Everton career to justify that Valencia isn't better than him. Yes he was good for them but Valencia was good for Wigan and he was decent in his first couple of seasons at OT. Forget the past, look at the present. What has Fellaini done in his United career that makes you think that Valencia isn't better?
Apologies. It wasn't you who said Valencia is much better, and that was the post I was responding to.
I agree Valencia's a better fit for this club, but I disagreed that he's a "much better" player.
When I'm talking about who's better, I'm not just basing it on their United careers.
Fellaini's been crap here, but I still think he's better than he's shown.
Fellaini has an opportunity now, I think. Let's see how he does with it.
I noticed this. Just throw yourself in to stop the freakin' shot you idiot! How he can't be arsed in the slightest with all our players around defending for their lives is beyond me.
Does he have an opportunity though? If Carrick and Herrera are both fit after the international break and with Valencia’s performance yesterday things aren’t looking good for him still. He shouldn’t be judged on yesterday’s performance but it highlighted how he just doesn’t fit into any system when there is any emphasis on positioning, tactics and intelligence, he looked lost and didn’t have a clue what to do. I don’t mean that as a criticism it’s just how he plays, if he had replaced Mata it wouldn’t have been such a problem but he was a liability in any other position in midfield.
He doesn’t have a position or fit into formations, you just tell him to go and play his game and then fit others round him, if he gets that opportunity he might make an impact but there is pretty much zero chance of that happening
In theory, it should be possible to train him into being a really, really good defensive midfielder.
In practice, I accept that it's a bit like playing Emile Heskey in that position at the moment.
In practice, I accept that it's a bit like playing Emile Heskey in that position at the moment.
Fletcher and Cleverley against Sunderland was quite awful. Particularly Fletcher in the first half, the worst 45 minutes I've seen from a united player in a very long time.
....and totally shit at United. Valencia is much better than Fellaini.
Fair enough.
For me, form at United (especially for just one year) isn't the be all and end all, and Valencia isn't a much better player than Fellaini.
Not that I rate either that highly.
Why should you care how he fared for a midtable team 2 years ago? Most Everton fans weren't even upset by his transfer. He wasn't highly rated there either.
Valencia's not much better in my opinion. Fellaini's been poor here, but how long has Valencia been poor for? People were giving him all sorts of abuse just a few months ago.
I'm not claiming Fellaini's a great player, or that anyone should/does rate him highly.
Just that Valencia's not a much better player.
But you agree he's better...ok I can live with that
Like people mentioned yesterday on social media, there is always something going wrong with him whenever he's on the pitch. We are inviting pressure every time he comes on. I can't recall the last time we have a player in his particular position being that flat when his job should be to provide spark and energy, defensively and/or offensively.
Inviting pressure at the end of games is the modern United if you haven't noticed. With or without Fellaini.
Not sure what he brings to us really. Doesn't have the intelligence to position himself when we don't have possession to pressure the opposition, and IMO this makes it look like he's always a second behind the play, always trying to catch up and react to where the ball is instead of stepping into a challenge or forcing the opponent into a less dangerous option.
That's pretty poor.
I've always been one to defend Fellaini as a footballer because I do think he's a good player, sometimes very good. But this is just unforgivable, to be honest. No excuse for lazy, cowardly play like that. I'd like to think he gets a bollocking whenever the coaching staff get round to viewing this game back. Pathetic defending.
Van Gaal's already 63.
Are you on something or just a wind up? Valencia was our players and fans PotY in a season he equaled an in form Nani on combined goals and assists. Fellaini has never been half as good as that. .. ever! He just plays for flavor of the year dark horses Belgium and surprised people by scoring some goals the season before we bought him.
He has his users but we have better players there in attack.
I'm fully aware of how good Valencia was three seasons ago. However Fellaini was also very effective a couple of seasons ago, and I don't think Valencia's a much better player than him.
Jesus. It's not like I'm claiming Fellaini's a great player or anything.
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I'm the same. I rate him, but that is not good enough.
He's the most useless player in our squad and by quite some distance. It looks like he won a contest or he's from the make a wish foundation.
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