FFS! He's not that bad.
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He's back! If we play the diamond against Everton, with Herrera currently out, I'd replace him with Fellaini. I feel he's much more suited to the box to box role than Fletcher, as he's more of a threat going forward and has the stamina to get back.
I would play a midfield diamond of:
Blind
Fellaini - Di Maria
Mata
I suppose that is close to the position he plays for Belgium so could cover quite well for Herrera.
Im not sure which of Fellaini and Carrick are closer to full fitness though or even if either is ready to start on Sunday.
Fletcher or Carrick will come in. This boy is finished at United
Erm no, Fletcher is finished at united and Carrick should be phased out in the next 18 months/2 years or so. He has the chance to impress now (if fit) so hopefully we can see the better side of Fellaini to come. He is most definitely better than Fletcher and offers a lot more.
I don't think so. Fletcher is finished and he still has more to offer than Fellaini. Fellaini doesn't have a future here, if he didn't get injured he'd be at Napoli right now. LVG clearly doesn't rate him, and playing him will only give him further confirmation after he sees how shit he is. He simply doesn't fit in with what LVG is trying to do here. Mid table team player.
Fellaini's now got his chance to prove himself now that Herrera's injured. Most likely, against Everton, it'll be either him or Fletcher who'll play at the right side of midfield.
The box-to-box role on the right side is perfect for Fellaini. He won't have to worry about screening the defence (Blind), and he won't be the main man in midfield to create chances (di Maria + Mata/Januzaj). However, what he'll need to show is that he can dictate the game and provide options to others. In terms of technique, he can't offer what Herrera can, and in terms of dictating play, I doubt he can also do what Herrera can. However, if we play with Mata or Januzaj at the tip, then all Fellaini has to do is add passing options for others, keep the ball moving, link up with others, and contribute on both ends of the pitch.
With Fletcher not being his usual energetic self, Anderson being left-footed, and Pereira not having the energy levels (yet) to play a box-to-box role, Fellaini is the best replacement in midfield for Herrera.
The box-to-box role on the right side is perfect for Fellaini. He won't have to worry about screening the defence (Blind), and he won't be the main man in midfield to create chances (di Maria + Mata/Januzaj). However, what he'll need to show is that he can dictate the game and provide options to others. In terms of technique, he can't offer what Herrera can, and in terms of dictating play, I doubt he can also do what Herrera can. However, if we play with Mata or Januzaj at the tip, then all Fellaini has to do is add passing options for others, keep the ball moving, link up with others, and contribute on both ends of the pitch.
With Fletcher not being his usual energetic self, Anderson being left-footed, and Pereira not having the energy levels (yet) to play a box-to-box role, Fellaini is the best replacement in midfield for Herrera.
Too early to pass judgement based on Moyes era. He did have a good career at Everton and if best, he is useful as a backup. Lucky for him, he is making a comebakc when Herrera is injured. So can slot right into his slot.
Let's see. I'm still undecided on Fellaini...for now.
Fellaini for me should start the more I think about it. He isn't as good technically as Ander, but given a license to roam forward he'll be a bit of a battering ram on that side of the pitch. Him bursting into the box will give AdM options to cross into, along with Falcao and RvP.
Note, I'm currently taking tramadol for pain relief, so if I'm talking nonsense I blame them!
Note, I'm currently taking tramadol for pain relief, so if I'm talking nonsense I blame them!
I don't rate Fellaini at all but I would place him ahead of Fletcher right now. 
I like Fletcher but he has been very poor in the games that he played and looks really past it physically. Fellaini can do a decent job without the spotlight on him and he will have lesser defensive and offensive responsibilities with Blind and Di Maria alongside him. Meaning he can be more economical and provide a bit of a physical presence and steel in the middle of the park. He hasn't managed to do it so far at United but he clearly knows he has a point to prove and has to play for his future. If he plays, I hope he is more positionally disciplined and provides cover for Di Maria alongside Blind instead of running around aimlessly like a headless Bebe... Hope fans don't sarcastically cheer him as well, that wasn't too nice.
I like Fletcher but he has been very poor in the games that he played and looks really past it physically. Fellaini can do a decent job without the spotlight on him and he will have lesser defensive and offensive responsibilities with Blind and Di Maria alongside him. Meaning he can be more economical and provide a bit of a physical presence and steel in the middle of the park. He hasn't managed to do it so far at United but he clearly knows he has a point to prove and has to play for his future. If he plays, I hope he is more positionally disciplined and provides cover for Di Maria alongside Blind instead of running around aimlessly like a headless Bebe... Hope fans don't sarcastically cheer him as well, that wasn't too nice.Fellaini won't be 'bursting into the box'. He's got absolutely zero dynamism to his game. He'll sit back pretending to be a defensive midfielder. He can't be and won't ever be a box to box midfielder because of his total lack of mobility and technique, and he can't and won't ever be a DM because he has awful positioning and horrific awareness; all of which was evident from watching him last season. I'd even start Fletcher over him.
He's hardly had a chance to even play under Van Gaal.
He's not nearly as bad as you make out, are you sure LVG does not rate him ? He will get a chance to impress and he will be playing a position he knows with a defensive shield behind him, Fellaini's worst asset should be his best (looking at him) and that's defensively but it's clearly not, with Blind behind him, he can basically do the same job he did in his best season at Everton.
Bonus points are that if he does play well and get a run going we will have another asset this season the other being it will push his price up when the axe inevitably does fall.
If Fellaini started the next 3 games and did well in them all there'd be plenty in here that'd still be calling him shit. There's barely any point trying to talk sense in this thread at times, the hyperbole in some posts is cartoonish stuff.
He hasn't showed no where near his full potential at you lot so i can understand why everyone wants rid but he is easilly good enough to be back up. I have seen him dominate the game even from a deeper position against the leagues top teams so i know he has it in him. I hope he can turn it round at yous because i like him a lot.
I'm willing to give him another chance to prove he has a place in the team, even as a squad player. With Herrera's injury it's time for Fellaini to prove his point.
But he look so clumsy and useless everytime i watch him. Like Crouch in midfield. I really don't rate him, even less in LVG philosophy which is build on maintaining possesion.
Edit: LVG want from players to pass the ball and hoof it as less as possible and that take away Fellaini main strength (last year he was bad even in the air).
I think we should give him a chance. Better than Fletcher and an aging and just recovered from injury Carrick.
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I Would give him a chance at least until we bring in some more midfield quality.
He's back! If we play the diamond against Everton, with Herrera currently out, I'd replace him with Fellaini. I feel he's much more suited to the box to box role than Fletcher, as he's more of a threat going forward and has the stamina to get back.
I would play a midfield diamond of:
Blind
Fellaini - Di Maria
Mata
As other mentioned, with Herrera out, this would be a great opportunity for Fellaini to try and win over his critics(myself included). I would love to see that midfield against Everton this Sunday and hopefully his presence will not disrupt our free flowing football from our midfield seen with Herrera the matches that he has done well in. Moreover, he lessen the defense burden for Di Maria and gives him more freedom/space to attack.
Sounds weird saying it, but I'd like to see him over Fletcher.
Fellaini has been out for 6 weeks. Since the World Cup he has had 2 sub appearances for us (approx 45 mins in total). Unless LVG tears up his selection guidelines, he won't be starting Fellaini against Everton after one week's training with the first team, though he could possibly be considered fit enough for the bench.
Can say the same about Anderson. Should he get a chance under a new manager too?
You know Van Gaal is either going to either play him or Valencia on that side. He wants a right footer. If he plays Fellaini, which I doubt because he's just returning from injury, I'd fear for lack of protection for Rafael. Herrera was excellent in covering that flank and making tackles defensively before the opposition overloaded that side. Valencia might actually be a safer option.
He is a big lad and will stand up for his teammates (Januzaj) if got bullied.
That's the only strength I could think of what he could offer.
That's the only strength I could think of what he could offer.
Nothing weird about it at all. I do as well as I think Fletch is finished and will get bullied.
Nothing against him but he doesn’t fit into the style of play or formation and the last thing we need him doing in the diamond formation is just running in straight lines up and down the pitch waiting for long balls and crosses, he needs to play with some awareness and intelligence but that isn’t really his game. Having said that with Carrick injured he is best option to fill in for Herrera though because there is no-one else, Fletcher and Anderson are both finished at this level so if Fellaini is fit he has to play.
He will need to be more disciplined but the writing is on the wall for his Utd career unless he improves dramatically, he won’t get time, he doesn’t have a manager that rates him highly so it is a case of either proving people wrong or being sold. I still think he was a poor signing who won’t fit in and he will go in one of the next two transfer windows but we are still short in midfield so I would be happy to be proved wrong.
He will need to be more disciplined but the writing is on the wall for his Utd career unless he improves dramatically, he won’t get time, he doesn’t have a manager that rates him highly so it is a case of either proving people wrong or being sold. I still think he was a poor signing who won’t fit in and he will go in one of the next two transfer windows but we are still short in midfield so I would be happy to be proved wrong.
Play him at cb
I hope he plays on Sunday, however I think he'll probably be on the bench due to not being fit enough maybe.
Whilst I don't think he is a great player, I find some of the criticism of him on here way over the top. He actually put in some pretty decent performances in CM last season, its not his fault he was then asked to play as a 10 and have balls hoofed up to him.
He is slow and a bit clumsy at times, however he is strong and always seems to look for the pass forward rather than the sideways pass, I think he can definitely do a job IMO, at the very least he is a lot better than Fletcher.
Whilst I don't think he is a great player, I find some of the criticism of him on here way over the top. He actually put in some pretty decent performances in CM last season, its not his fault he was then asked to play as a 10 and have balls hoofed up to him.
He is slow and a bit clumsy at times, however he is strong and always seems to look for the pass forward rather than the sideways pass, I think he can definitely do a job IMO, at the very least he is a lot better than Fletcher.
I wouldn't. He's poor, he didn't even fit into David Moyes' plans and no one knows what they were! He's slow, lumbering and he would provide no protection for the full-back or anything going forward whatsoever.
He has a big advantage over Fletcher. We've seen Fletcher recently, we haven't seen Fellaini recently. That's about it.
He is one of the worst players to ever put on a MUFC jersey.
He just needs to GO
He just needs to GO
I literally feel the hatred seeping out of this thread
Give him a chance, new season, new manager, new tactics, new players might bring out the best of him.
Give him a chance, new season, new manager, new tactics, new players might bring out the best of him.
I literally feel the hatred seeping out of this thread
Give him a chance, new season, new manager, new tactics, new players might bring out the best of him.
Seriously? It's not going to happen. He doesn't suit the way we play nor will he ever. It's as plain as day to see. He can't control a football, he hasn't displayed the ability to pick a pass, he loves elbows and he hasn't got the engine to be able to make it box-to-box effectively.
But hey! He can chest it down with the best of them.
I literally feel the hatred seeping out of this thread
Give him a chance, new season, new manager, new tactics, new players might bring out the best of him.
Everton saw the best of him, I doubt we ever will here because we will never play in a way that will suit him. Just a question of whether he can play a role as a squad player or not and if he is happy being a backup player.
The idea of seeing him play against Everton is really growing on me.
If he plays and scores a winner by it spanging off his arse I'll take it.
We need momentum (although I heard he's tied down to a long contract with his current club).
Liquid lunch, soz.
We need momentum (although I heard he's tied down to a long contract with his current club).
Liquid lunch, soz.
Is that not a significant point though? LVG will have a plan for him, and it might get the best out of him too. He's not half as bad as people on here make out. Fletcher has been absolute muck whenever he's played this season and I don't want him near the team. I'd be willing to at least offer Fellaini a chance on that note.
Well Anderson played 90 mins against MK Dons and didn't impress. Plus, they're two complete different situation for me.
Anderson has been here for what, seven years, when our team was winning titles, and up to now hasn't really had a consistent season (obviously unlucky with injuries). Fellaini, on the other hand, has been here for one season, most of it which he was injured, in our worst campaign for a very long time. Hardly comparable.
If it had been the other way round, I would have said the same thing.
An argument whose better between Fletcher, Fellaini, Ando and Carrick. No wonder we're in such sad situation
Carrick > Fellaini > Fletcher > Anderson.
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