Glad someone sees it, some barmy views in here.
Mario Mandžukić
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Glad someone sees it, some barmy views in here.
Solskjaer called Dybala a false 9 himself so he'll be a 9 as much as he is a 10.
9 goals and 7 assists in about 2000 minutes in the league last season. Pretty decent return with about a goal or assist every 125 minutes.
Which is where Mata plays, it's basically Griezmann/Rooney role.
What's the point then?
Rashford 22
Martial 24
Dybala 26(if he signs that is)
Could be a good and cheap option to rotate with the squad and happy with the role. Dont mind him.
A lot of posters can't see past him being neither a young talent nor a galactico.
Anyone with any sense can see it for what it is: a shrewd, experienced addition to our young, hit and miss forward line.
I'm sorry, it's not like we've had to watch the likes of Matic and Mata's quality decay as they've gotten older and slower, stinking up the place whilst we persist on playing them. Mandzukic might be a good player like Matic was when we signed him, but give it another season and there's a good chance he'll be half the player, then we're stuck with him like the rest.
I agree with you on the idea of signing him over a younger player.. and I also agree that Greenwood will get good playing time. What I dont agree with is Gomes needing to hit the gym. He's a small guy but It's an old myth that really shouldn't be repeated in this day and age, that players are too small, too underdeveloped. The 80s and 90s saw big strong players that would smash each other about for 90 minutes. In 2019 we have players like Sterling, Messi, Hazard and Kante playing. They use their lack of presence from a physical aspect to their advantage. Having a low centre of gravity makes them really nimble. Angel Gomes will be absolutely fine int he PL. He will never be a tall guy. And bulking up might be really bad for his style.
Yes, without being biased, he'd be great option from the bench. Bags of experience, a warrior who doesn't stop for one minute, immaculate attitude, gives hell to defenders, scores important goals. Really smart buy for a cheap price imo. If not for scoring he'll be useful with occupying defenders and giving space for our other forwards. His link up play is pretty good.
Mandzukic is the classic "His club fans love him, rival fans hate him" player. Incredible work ethic, one of the best defensive forwards in football, great hold up play, great aerial ability and scores crucial goals. He absolutely has the mentality to inspire the younger players in squad and as a back up option on the left and up top he'd be a great signing for the short term. We need a bit of a bastard now that Herrera has gone as well!
It doesn't matter if they're different types of strikers, they're strikers at the end of the day and they'll both want minutes coming off the bench for Rashford or Dybala (if he signs). In the last 20 minutes we'll probably look to Mandzukic a lot more than we will for Greenwood to make an impact, which is bullshit.
Yup. You know already how and when they'll be used I see.. Crazy thought, sometimes we'll look for both.
Was always for good enough old enough approach and God knows that was always for giving a chance to youth over overpaid lazy cats who dont perform week in week out.
So must say this unhappiness is a bit confusing, dont think he will displace Rashford from managers vision when it comes to strikers. He will come from the bench when needed and as someone who isnt big follower of Mandzukic, by reading comments of others, he seems as someone who aint lazy, he will press, fight and bite.
He is more target man than Lukaku, ball wont bounce of him like he is a tree, even if he isnt 200/200 type of goalscorer. If Ole is not a fake when it comes to giving chances to Greenwood and similar, kid should have more than enough minutes not only as striker but as RW too.
So must say this unhappiness is a bit confusing, dont think he will displace Rashford from managers vision when it comes to strikers. He will come from the bench when needed and as someone who isnt big follower of Mandzukic, by reading comments of others, he seems as someone who aint lazy, he will press, fight and bite.
He is more target man than Lukaku, ball wont bounce of him like he is a tree, even if he isnt 200/200 type of goalscorer. If Ole is not a fake when it comes to giving chances to Greenwood and similar, kid should have more than enough minutes not only as striker but as RW too.
It’s about having a hammer in your tool box when you’ve been trying with screw drivers all day and realise it’s a nail you’re up against.
Greenwood is 17. If we can give him 10-15 appearances this season he will be absolutely delighted.
Get the vibe that we have to take him as part of the dybala deal, if that isnt the case then vardy would have been my more favoured option to bring in an experienced striker to the club.
No Mata hasn't played as a CF for us since last year's pre season vs Real Madrid. It's either been furthest forward in the midfield 3 or on the right.
If Solskjaer signs Mandzukic on top of completely ignoring the RW I'm done with Solskjaer as manager.
If you’re putting a 17 year old kid on to change a game then you’re in big trouble. It also does the player no favours at all.
Some fans are obsessed with getting young players in the side. As much as we all like to see homegrown players develop into first team players, experience is vital if we want to see any success.
Young players need to be protected and not rushed. It does him no harm to have older, quality players around either.
Is that a promise ?
I wouldn't be surprised if we're signing him to play in on the right, instead of signing an actual right winger. Classic united of late.
Exactly
Christ, somewhere between this, the "trust Gomez, Chong and Greenwood thread" and the "Sancho would be wasting his career at United" + "Gomez is better than Dybala" comments, this has been a rough day for the Caf.
I'm talking about the 4231, the player behind the main striker can be a 9.5(Griezmann/Dybala), a 10(Riquelme) or an advanced 8(Lampard).
Would be nice if you stopped using this forum aswell
He'll be 18 in two months time, not that big of a deal. I'd rather rely on a hungry 18 year old that's looking a great talent over a 33 year old striker that will be looking more and more limited every time he gets a game.
Are there teams currently at the top of the game who hand out Last Big Paydays the way we do? Maybe I'm being myopic here but I feel like we dish out more fat contracts to players that will take them into their mid 30s than other major teams.
Probably a good signing for a couple of seasons. Someone else to lean on when we need another option. Really don't think this will hinder Greenwood. He's 17. We can't be giving too many games to him just yet. Needs to find his legs still so he doesn't burn out early in his career.
Christ above...
Yep yep and yep. Especially the bit about being a bastard. We dont have many players who will give it some when its getting feisty.
On top of being a big strong bastard.. hes actually a very good footballer.
Weirdly enough pretty excited about this (as long as it happens alongside Dybala and not without)
Will provide a very effective alternate option, his clutch goals, workrate and aerial ability are gonna make him a fan favourite I think.
Also the people against this because Greenwood is knocking on the door are being very naive. Greenwood will get more than enough chances this year he is obviously ready to contribute, but if we have to be relying on a 17 year old we may as well book in Europa League again next season. By the time Greenwood is even close to 20 years old Mandzukic wont be threatening his place in the lineup thats for sure.
Will provide a very effective alternate option, his clutch goals, workrate and aerial ability are gonna make him a fan favourite I think.
Also the people against this because Greenwood is knocking on the door are being very naive. Greenwood will get more than enough chances this year he is obviously ready to contribute, but if we have to be relying on a 17 year old we may as well book in Europa League again next season. By the time Greenwood is even close to 20 years old Mandzukic wont be threatening his place in the lineup thats for sure.
And what if there is truth in Sancho coming next year?
That poster is a Smalling fan as well, no wonder he keeps on making comments like this.
It makes perfect sense for a team building for the future. We have some very talented youngsters who aren’t quite ready yet to consolidate a place in the startup XI, so having someone of quality to come in short term takes the pressure of them and gives them a platform to develop organically. If anything it shows commitment to those players.
think we've been missing a physical presence and as long as he's not expecting to play every match he could offer something a bit different.
Leicester will let him their first choice stiker go for cheap and he's gonna be happy with a backup role?
Slowly becoming a full Jose team. If Fellaini is still here, we would probably never concede from set pieces.
Would have preferred better options considering he was never a consistent goal scorer.
Would have preferred better options considering he was never a consistent goal scorer.
He's been a really good footballer for years, but his age would be an obvious issue.
If we sell Lukaku and get him and Dybala id be happy.
If we just get Mandzukic and money I'm not sure we've got a great deal for Lukaku.
As people have mentioned though, his wealth of experience could be critical, and he certainly offers something different to Martial, Rashford and Greenwood.
If we sell Lukaku and get him and Dybala id be happy.
If we just get Mandzukic and money I'm not sure we've got a great deal for Lukaku.
As people have mentioned though, his wealth of experience could be critical, and he certainly offers something different to Martial, Rashford and Greenwood.
I don't think it's a great idea but...