Mario Mandžukić

Well the role of a target man isn't primarily linked with crosses from wide players. A target man is a player that will occupy the opposing CBs and impose a physical battle, a player that can be used on the ground as well as in the air from the middle whether it is in the short or long passing game.
Sure, in that case you need runners from midfield or a number 10 who can go beyond the target man and score goals. Similar to Lampard at Chelsea. We have, ermm let me think. Yes exactly
 
Sure, in that case you need runners from midfield or a number 10 who can go beyond the target man and score goals. Similar to Lampard at Chelsea. We have, ermm let me think. Yes exactly

Like Dybala, Pogba, Lingard, McTominay?
 
I think it'll be a great signing for multiple reasons if it happens. If/when Lukaku leaves we'll need a #9 to backup Rashford and I also think it'll be great to have an experienced forward who can play across the front line for Martial, Rashford, and Greenwood to learn from every day in training.

Get it done Ed!
 
Really not a fan of the Mandzukic addition, we'll be wasting minutes on a past his best player when we could be playing Greenwood.

He’ll be here two years and Greenwood will still be 19/20. No problem.
 
Mandzukic is a winner. A nasty kind of guy at times. All these things which are missing in our dressing room. He would be a similar signing to us as when we signed Zlatan.
Agree with you posy especially the point in bold as I was thinking something similar myself. He will be good for the younger players to look up. He will show them what's it like to put in effort for the team. Played for some of the biggest teams. Big game mentality scored in 2 Champions League finals. Can score a spectacular goal like the overhead kick in 2017 Champions League final and I think his never give up attitude will help us by him harrying the goal keeper like the goal he scored in the World Cup final.
 
We need a player like this to help open op a deep laying defense as all our current options need too much space to be effective. He will be a very good asset and we need someone to be a physical prick to unsettle opposition teams at times, and to cause trouble when teams park the bus. The young players we have also need experienced professionals to learn from and this guy ticks this box.
 
Not a player I’ve ever really liked, even when he was his goal scoring best, which he isn’t nowadays. But I can at least see the logic of his purchase - offers something different, has tonnes of experience and is unlikely to go missing in high pressure games. As a stopgap measure, it’s something I can get behind. As long as we don’t revert to flinging high balls to him when things don’t go well.
 
Sure, in that case you need runners from midfield or a number 10 who can go beyond the target man and score goals. Similar to Lampard at Chelsea. We have, ermm let me think. Yes exactly
Isn't Pogba that number 10?
 
I really hope this transfer doesn't happen. Mandzukic is an animal, absolutely lacks any class you'd expect from a United player! Elbowing someone in the face, then faking an injury two minutes later. If he's our ticket to Dybala then so be it, but otherwise we need to reject him. He's worse than Diego Costa, also older and barely scores.
 
Agree with you posy especially the point in bold as I was thinking something similar myself. He will be good for the younger players to look up. He will show them what's it like to put in effort for the team. Played for some of the biggest teams. Big game mentality scored in 2 Champions League finals. Can score a spectacular goal like the overhead kick in 2017 Champions League final and I think his never give up attitude will help us by him harrying the goal keeper like the goal he scored in the World Cup final.

100%. He brings back the winning mentality.
 
I really hope this transfer doesn't happen. Mandzukic is an animal, absolutely lacks any class you'd expect from a United player! Elbowing someone in the face, then faking an injury two minutes later. If he's our ticket to Dybala then so be it, but otherwise we need to reject him. He's worse than Diego Costa, also older and barely scores.
:lol:

Worse than Costa. Come of it.
 
Don't have a strong opinion on whether he'd be good for our us in the short term, but handing a contract till the age of 36 to a forward whose best attributes are tenacity and energy when out of possession sounds like a recipe for medium term bloat. In two and half years we'd still have Sanchez (33), Mata (33) and this guy (35) taking up three of the forward slots in our squad, receiving massive wages while contributing almost nothing.
 
Currently no, but he is that runner from midfield.
Doesnt really get on the end of things though does he. Im staying out of this one. People comparing him to Zlatan. Zlatan was a nasty big feck who scored goals. Mandzukic is just a nasty big feck. We have no wingers who can cross a ball. If we give him a 3 year contract he will be 36.
 
Don't have a strong opinion on whether he'd be good for our us in the short term, but handing a contract till the age of 36 to a forward whose best attributes are tenacity and energy when out of possession sounds like a recipe for medium term bloat. In two and half years we'd still have Sanchez (33), Mata (34) and this guy (36) taking up three of the forward slots in our squad.

I think you might be missing the point of this signing. It won't be just for his on field attributes but also his off field too. He's worked with Dybala already so they would both help each other to bed in.

Mandzukic would be great to occupy 2 defenders in deep lying defences, allowing the likes of Dybala, Rashford and Martial to make the most of the spaces left.
 
Doesnt really get on the end of things though does he. Im staying out of this one. People comparing him to Zlatan. Zlatan was a nasty big feck who scored goals. Mandzukic is just a nasty big feck. We have no wingers who can cross a ball. If we give him a 3 year contract he will be 36.
And if we give him a 2 year contract he'll be 35.
 
Don't have a strong opinion on whether he'd be good for our us in the short term, but handing a contract till the age of 36 to a forward whose best attributes are tenacity and energy when out of possession sounds like a recipe for medium term bloat. In two and half years we'd still have Sanchez (33), Mata (33) and this guy (35) taking up three of the forward slots in our squad.
Mata won't stay beyond this contract he has now.

In fact if we sign Dybala I really don't think Mata will start more than 5 games.

Sanchez we're stuck with until it's cheap enough to pay him off, or until a stupid rich club abroad takes a punt.

Mandzukic I'm less bothered about as we've had older strikers in squads in the past who have done no real harm. Zlatan, Sheringham, short term Larsson etc.
 
Doesnt really get on the end of things though does he. Im staying out of this one. People comparing him to Zlatan. Zlatan was a nasty big feck who scored goals. Mandzukic is just a nasty big feck. We have no wingers who can cross a ball. If we give him a 3 year contract he will be 36.

For a CM, he most definitely get on the end of things. But I can clearly see that you are just trying to justify your dislike of Mandzukic.
 
Wow, with United's current rooster and recent success, you'd think the fans would be a bit more accepting of a signing like Mandzukic.
 
I’m intrigued by the hate he’s getting here. ‘Barely scores goals’, ‘he’s slow’, ‘he’s 33 and past it’.

You’re looking at this through a keyhole. Think about the bigger picture for Christ sake. He offers a wealth of experience up front (something we lack currently), he can be a role model for the youngsters, he’s physical and can hold up play allowing runs to come off him. He’s good aerially.

He may not score 20 a season, but you can bet there’ll be a good number of goals directly influenced by him.
 
Seriously, I bet some people would prefer we bought Kean instead and have a completely inexperienced front line, but as long as they’re perceived as wonderkids, that’s ok. He will be a great addition if he comes. Also, in that Milan game, there was a good 5-6 times Martial cut back in from the left and got crosses in, he will be ideal for attacking that.
 
I would prefer we sign someone who can scrore goals. Vardy would be better

There is no point to Vardy when we already have a starter playing the same role and the price of Vardy would be stupid.
 
I think you might be missing the point of this signing. It won't be just for his on field attributes but also his off field too. He's worked with Dybala already so they would both help each other to bed in.

I think my point still stands. If the age/bloat profile of our forwards was different I might be a bit more receptive to the idea that we could afford to hand out a massive contract primarily for attitude contributions but we have to deal with the squad situation as it actually is and that includes Sanchez and Mata sticking around for the foreseeable future.
 
I understand the logic of signing him, just meh on it. Think the signing of Maguire will be enough to push us in that top 4, especially if we sign Dybala. Past that I'd just want Greenwood/Gomes/Chong to get chances.
 
Vardy isn't even an option so it's pointless to mention him anyway.

But even if he was an option, he would be an extremely expensive one and in a role that is already occupied.