Height is important mate. A CB might be able to play sexy football but ultimately someone needs to close down the typical 6ft4 giant in opposition during corners, set pieces or crosses. However in this case its not that much of an issue for three reasons
a- Its evident that INEOS is trying to add inches in the team. Ugarte/Berge, Yoro, Zirkzee, De Ligt and Mazroui are all 6ft+
b- Hermoso will be covering for Martinez whose 5ft10 and way weaker in aerial duels then Hermoso
Well yeah obviously but he bought him and trusted him in his team. Who knows why he left. Manager might have wanted him to stay.what is the source?
well apparently he no longer is, seeing as he's a free agent
You are focusing on that too much and overblowing any potential issue.
Compare him to some very good PL CB's
Aerials won per 90
Ruben Dias - 1.79
Stones - 1.35
Akanji - 0.91
Saliba - 1.92
Varane - 1.69
Hermoso - 1.41
Konsa - 0.88
Pau Torres - 0.84
VVD - 4
Maguire - 3.9
His numbers are absolutely fine.
Tosin Adarabioyo.Who?
He's 6 foot mate
This, plus he’s in the bottom 17th percentile for aerial duels won. I specifically in my initial post said if he’s playing beside Martinez there’s an obvious problem there. Read a little more.For a CB that's slightly on the shorter side. The average CB height in the PL is 6ft 2 in.
He's very comparable to some of the best defenders in the league on aerial duels won. Maybe you should read more instead of trying to be condescending.This, plus he’s in the bottom 17th percentile for aerial duels won. I specifically in my initial post said if he’s playing beside Martinez there’s an obvious problem there. Read a little more.
And we're right to be on this path. Arsenal added robustness to their style and look how it has transformed them, even Pep has added a lot of physicality to his City team. It's vital for the Prem
Juices watering..... TBH part of me has wondered if the De Ligt interest is in part to give an option to play either De Ligt or Martinez as CDM if necessary, bit like Fabinho in reverseNo idea....but anyone who plays in a Simeone defence must have something about him.........on the other hand, looking at Atleti fan comments, a lot of them reckon he's prone to defensive errors and distinctly average in that department, but a big asset in build up play. One even reckons he'd be great as a CDM......
The players you are trying to compare him to are Man City and Arsenal defenders who average 60% of the ball and face a lot less work in aerial duels. Even still, guys like Saliba, Dias, Gabriel etc. are a lot higher on the percentiles and win more duels. There’s context to comparisons.He's very comparable to some of the best defenders in the league on aerial duels won. Maybe you should read more instead of trying to be condescending.
so why have Atletico not extended his contract?
surplus to requirements to them...... good enough for us?
Injury prone isn't he?
Doubt that we were aiming to sign 4 defenders this window. We wanted upgrade on Lindelof, and cover for Dalot/Shaw, and Mazraoui and De Ligt provided that. Since AWB covers for Dalot now, we are just signing a LCB/LB player now is my guess.We were always looking for a LCB/LB irrespective of those targets.
Injury prone isn't he?
Mazraoui was only bought if AWB leaves. It's been well reported we were happy to get up to 3 fresh defenders outside of that.Doubt that we were aiming to sign 4 defenders this window. We wanted upgrade on Lindelof, and cover for Dalot/Shaw, and Mazraoui and De Ligt provided that. Since AWB covers for Dalot now, we are just signing a LCB/LB player now is my guess.
As long as he is a decent left back option this is a no brainer - looking at fbref he looks very decent on the ball...They tried to lowball him in terms of salary.
He played 49 games for them last season (whoscored) including against the likes of Inter, Real and Barcelona
I'll be very surprised if we go onto sign 3CBs this window. It will be quite stupid too, considering the mess our midfield is.Mazraoui was only bought if AWB leaves. It's been well reported we were happy to get up to 3 fresh defenders outside of that.
Very credible reporters, such as Melissa Reddy in case you don't rate Romano (who echoed the same anyway) said we want a LCB / LB whilst still being v close on De Ligt.
I've always wanted us to sign this lad since the first time I watched him play. Which was a YouTube compilation I just watched 40 seconds of.
Lindelof and AWB aint going nowhere. Forget a new RB.Shaw-Martínez-Yoro-Dalot
Amass/Hermoso-Hermoso-Maguire-new RB
Wouldn't be stupid at all. One of them would cover lb.I'll be very surprised if we go onto sign 3CBs this window. It will be quite stupid too, considering the mess our midfield is.
Mainoo is our only proper midfielder for the two deeper spots. Mount/Bruno are better higher up, and Casemiro/Eriksen cant run anymore.Wouldn't be stupid at all. One of them would cover lb.
Licha is also our only proper CB capable of playing in a progressive style. And we literally have no fit left backs.Mainoo is our only proper midfielder for the two deeper spots. Mount/Bruno are better higher up, and Casemiro/Eriksen cant run anymore.
If we have funds, priority should be getting 2 midfielders in, preferably those who can start. Not stocking up CBs, when Yoro/Martinez/New CB is more than enough. If that new CB is Hermoso who can cover LB, then De Ligt aint happening.
We are not signing 3CBs, when we have other holes all over the pitch, and we seem to be broke. The club cannot be that stupid. Bookmark this.
Just because we keep getting injuries in defence, doesnt mean we will keep hoarding players there. We are unable to sell Lindelof and Maguire. We already have 5CBs, you think we will buy 2 more and have 7CBs? Get real. I dont care what Melissa Reddy or Luckhurst says, its not happening.Licha is also our only proper CB capable of playing in a progressive style. And we literally have no fit left backs.
I dont need to bookmark anything. It's reporte we'd be open to 3 defenders if one can cover left back.
We have McT and Collyer coming through, Casemiro is still with us. Two of these guys are the equivalents of Maguire or Lindelof as options in defence.
Just because we keep getting injuries in defence, doesnt mean we will keep hoarding players there. We are unable to sell Lindelof and Maguire. We already have 5CBs, you think we will buy 2 more and have 7CBs? Get real. I dont care what Melissa Reddy or Luckhurst says, its not happening.
Like I said Casemiro's legs are gone. And McT is no CM either, he's also better higher up.. We have Evans, Maguire, Lindelof, Licha, Yorro.
A no brainer signing. I hope we do it
Would this be with de ligt signing? Or cover as de ligt isn't happening?Haa, the narrative around him is now, he's on a free so he’s crap. He's not good enough for Atletico so why should he be for us. No context behind those statements. He played over 85% of their games last season, Atletico tried to low ball him salary wise so he chose to go into free agency. He's 29 and at a solid age for a CB and is solid LB cover too. Great at advancing with the ball and he's tough as nails. Would be a shrewd move.
Difference being we have 3 midfield spots, while 2 spots for CBs.We can bring in a free signing at LB (who can also cover LCB) and De Ligt. That's 7 options at CB with one that would be a LB cover.
We also have Mount, Mainoo, Bruno, Casemiro, McTominay Collyer and at least one new CM.