Mario Balotelli

FranklyVulgar said:
I can see your point but which youngsters aged 19 etc have shown as much as Balotelli?

You arent getting a young player you are getting an already proven good player with potential to be a great player. None of Uniteds young players have shown that they are ready to claim a starting spot on a regular basis, Balotelli would.
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Define "much" . In a much changed world of football where an increasing number of young players are becoming superstars, peaking or threatening to peak at such a young age, there have been and are quite a few youngsters who may not necessarily be 19 but are in an around that age group (19 plus or minus three years) that have shown more promise than Balotelli.

I am not taking anything away from Balotelli for he is a very good talent in his own right BUT what the likes of Ozil, Muller, Beppe Rossi, Rosina, Hamsik, Pato etc. to name but a few have done eclipses the momentary flashes of brilliance and frequent childish tantrums exhibited by Mario.
 
Georgie Best said:
If you sign someone like Balotelli its not about how good you are, but how good you can be, he is only 19 and really experienced for that age.

It also has to do with how long you stay at the club. For example £30m for David Villa you pay for a man whom will be at his best for 5-8 years. With Balotelli its 10-15 years, and the possibility to sell him later perhaps get £30m or more back selling him later.

To use a poker term, the implied odds are far better signing one of the best young forwards than a older one.
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I haven't seen him enough to determine current quality OR potential quality. I see he has a decent goal return though.

Personally, I fear there will be no more signings this summer. I just thought ONE big signing would add a bit extra to the push for the Prem!
 
FranklyVulgar said:
I can see your point but which youngsters aged 19 etc have shown as much as Balotelli?

You arent getting a young player you are getting an already proven good player with potential to be a great player. None of Uniteds young players have shown that they are ready to claim a starting spot on a regular basis, Balotelli would.
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Its not about them being as good a player as Balotelli. He's clearly a great prospect (though a complete wanker. If somehow he did turn up in a United shirt, I'd have to give him the benefit of the doubt till he starts acting up...) but the thing is, we have other very good prospects who are good enough. What they need is experience and signing Balotelli would mean even less chance of getting it.

We'd be all set if Hernandez and Macheda had each played the 60 matches for a top club that Balotelli has. But they havent. They need that experience and more and more it seems its going to have to be a prolonged period at United for them to garner that amount of top level experience. I would have hoped that by the end of next season they'd have the kind of experience to be counted on for the next season. But if we sign Balotelli it may take multiple seasons for them to get to that level - if ever. And the likes of Welbeck, Diouf and King would have to find football elsewhere because they wouldnt get it at United.

Our problem right now isnt so much a lack of quality. Its a lack of top level experience in our young forwards. If they had that Hernandez and Macheda would be fantastic options for us.
 
My worry with this potential signing is what it means for the squad in general.

1. Berbatov is likely to be sold, which would be a shame imo. I still think he has a lot to offer United and I would be sad to see him go.

2. It would be unlikely for us to go for an AM like Ozil, which is a position I feel we need to strengthen in, and I would be pushing to sign a player like Ozil over any striker.
 
manusteve said:
I haven't seen him enough to determine current quality OR potential quality. I see he has a decent goal return though.

Personally, I fear there will be no more signings this summer. I just thought ONE big signing would add a bit extra to the push for the Prem!
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But should forward be the priority? We have seven decent ones, and Hernandez is a big question mark, however he was among the best forwards in the world cup, and seems to be a natural goalscorer.

I hope we get a good midfielder.

bbest said:
The Daily Mail says City is closing in on their target.

Manchester City closing in on £35m Inter misfit Mario Balotelli | Mail Online
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Mancini clearly rated him higher than Mourinho while managing Inter.
 
To be honest my biggest concern wouldn't be the player. I think his agents a real asshole, whom seems to be too self important, too immature and I would worry how much influence this prick has over Mario. I don't understand players these days, get rid of the fat leech!!!

If he signs for City, he's not worth it. If he signs for us? Clearly Sir Alex thinks he is
 
Georgie Best said:
But should forward be the priority? We have seven decent ones, and Hernandez is a big question mark, however he was among the best forwards in the world cup, and seems to be a natural goalscorer.

I hope we get a good midfielder.
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Well, I actually agree with you. The timing is right for a midfielder. I would love to see more of Macheda, and Hernandez does look classy.

And I can't see us buying the Van Der Saar replacement because a top keeper ain't gonna come while VDS is still No.1.

I really have no idea if SAF is looking at ANYONE! (Same as the press I suppose, which is why they fabricate so many stories)
 
I don't think if we sign this kid, it will effect us promoting from within or buying (a midfielder) because I reckon we'd sell a striker.
 
City will sign him and he will be a petulant cnut for them because he'll be earning too much money at an early stage in his career and he won't have the right e protective environment around him. While Ferguson would protect him and keep him out of the media spotlight, Cook will be looking to turn him into a superstar to raise the profile of the club.

It'll be a complete waste of the talent he has. Sadly I see no way we will sign him now.
 
This player fits right in with the clubs transfer value policy.Young and could be worth a bit in a few years.
 
I would be over the moon if we signed him.. I have said many times over that he is exactly the type of player that we need..

Versatile (can play on the wings as well as up front or in the hole thus can play in 442 or 433)
Young (so SAF can mould him whichever way he likes)
Set Pieces (We have not had a clear FK taker since Ronaldo left)
Scores Goals (Rooney needs some help)
X Factor (We need another player that can produce a moment of absolute magic)

There was a list of strikers I came up with before the Transfer window opened.. They fit into this category maybe not completely but they would tick most boxes.. I may not remember all of them though.. They were: Benzema, Higuain, Pato, Jevotic, Suarez & finally Balotelli.. As I said I may have missed out on a few names here..

Also signing one of these players would still leave room for us to sign a CM which also should be one of our requirements if not this season surely next! As this season we still have Giggs and Scholes (1 or both of whom wont be there next season) Anderson and Gibson (either could develop into the role) Hargreaves (could finally leave his injury troubles behind him) Carrick (can regain his old form and cement his place in the starting 11 again)

Although I think if we were to lose Rooney for say a few months in the season I would know for sure that would almost certainly dent our chances of the title or which ever competition we are competing in during that period of time..
 
Eto'odinho said:
Define "much" . In a much changed world of football where an increasing number of young players are becoming superstars, peaking or threatening to peak at such a young age, there have been and are quite a few youngsters who may not necessarily be 19 but are in an around that age group (19 plus or minus three years) that have shown more promise than Balotelli.

I am not taking anything away from Balotelli for he is a very good talent in his own right BUT what the likes of Ozil, Muller, Beppe Rossi, Rosina, Hamsik, Pato etc. to name but a few have done eclipses the momentary flashes of brilliance and frequent childish tantrums exhibited by Mario.
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According to the RedCafe Muppet Handbook you can't be a prospect if the first number of your age is a 2. Facht.
 
manusteve said:
Well, I actually agree with you. The timing is right for a midfielder. I would love to see more of Macheda, and Hernandez does look classy.

And I can't see us buying the Van Der Saar replacement because a top keeper ain't gonna come while VDS is still No.1.

I really have no idea if SAF is looking at ANYONE! (Same as the press I suppose, which is why they fabricate so many stories)
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I was also caught up in the midfielder must have mindset, but actually I am changing my mind.

We have always seen Rooney as a classic number 10, I personally do. Is Ozil not a classic number 10? Snjieder also? In that respect is we are looking for someone with an eye for a pass, who can score goals and control and game then we already have him in Rooney, and whilst Schole is still able to contribute then there isn't room for another world class player there.

Hernandez lookd very promising, as is Macheda, perhaps these two more than Douif and Welbeck.

I personally feel that a forward 4 that looked like this, would be quite mouthwatering...

Valencia-------------Rooney---------------Nani

--------------------Balotelli

With Balotelli able to play wide also, then Macheda and Hernandez would both get opportunities to play, but I feel that Berbatov and a particularly Michael Owen would suffer more. But in that respect certainly Berbatov only has himself to blame, if he's done the business why would we be looking.
 
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Balotelli deal not done - agent
Inter striker will not move to City imminently

Last updated: 19th July 2010

Mario Balotelli's agent has claimed the Inter Milan striker is not on the verge of joining Manchester City.

The 19-year-old frontman has long been linked with a move to Eastlands and has been tipped to leave Giuseppe Meazza this summer.

Balotelli fell out of favour with the Nerazzurri last season after a bust-up with then manager Jose Mourinho.

The fiery forward has three years left on his existing deal with Inter but has been attracting strong interest from the Premier League with City and rivals Manchester United reportedly in the frame.

Balotelli's agent Mino Raiola insists no deal will be completed between City and Inter on Monday, but did not move to quash the transfer speculation

"Today there will be no developments," he told tuttomercatoweb.com.

"I don't think the situation will be solved this evening. The (transfer) figures? No comment."
 
In the same interview Raiola also mentioned Abete, the President of italian fa, stating that he wont give any more info about balotelli before abete resigns :lol::lol:

What a clown!
 
lem8sh said:
Hope to feck we don't waste 35 million on Balotelli
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I cant figure out why we are always connected with this boy when we know so little about him, if we are going to spend money this lad is not what we want.
 
lem8sh said:
Hope to feck we don't waste 35 million on Balotelli
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Balotelli to United makes no sense. Any links to United in the media are probably just setting things up so City can say "he snubbed United to join the bigger club" when he signs for them.
 
I think that if we sign him and he throws a fit the way he did at Inter, consequences will never be the same. He'll sort himself out mentally here, of that I have no doubt.
 
It doesn't make any rational sense for City to go for this lad. The only explanation is that they are doing so to feck with us and it sure as hell seems like it.
 
charleysurf said:
Balotelli to United makes no sense. Any links to United in the media are probably just setting things up so City can say "he snubbed United to join the bigger club" when he signs for them.
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Probably to pump more out City. 35m is already a laugh....lol.
 
Levi_Jm said:
Probably to pump more out City. 35m is already a laugh....lol.
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Apparently till now, no one offered 35m euros - that was just press speculation.

now even the press are claiming that the only offer Inter received was 25m euros but they want 35m and they are expecting City to reach that amount by today or tomorrow.
 
Balotelli at City is a disaster waiting to happen.

Balotelli anywhere is a disaster waiting to happen.
 
Baby Faced Assassin said:
Why do City even need a striker? Probably Santa Cruz is lonely on the bench.
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Because apparantly United are interested therefore City are.

It's the same approach Chelsea took, by buying players your main rival is interested in you are not only strenghtening yourself but weakening your main rival.

Imagine if Chelsea found their own targets and we completed the signings of Essien and Robben. I'd hazard a guess that 04 - 06 would have been very very different.

Crerand Legend said:
I cant figure out why we are always connected with this boy when we know so little about him, if we are going to spend money this lad is not what we want.
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Who is the "we" you talk about? Us transfer muppets, or are you suggesting that the United scouting team isn't doing their job?
 
dev1l said:
Apparently till now, no one offered 35m euros - that was just press speculation.

now even the press are claiming that the only offer Inter received was 25m euros but they want 35m and they are expecting City to reach that amount by today or tomorrow.
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basically the press are talking out their backside and so we wait
 
Striker10 said:
basically the press are talking out their backside and so we wait
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Not only. Certain sections of the press are used by the clubs and agents ...ie the intentionally leak certain information to them in order to achieve their goal. This information need not necessarily be the truth.... or better, in most case it's not.
 
Pexbo said:
Who is the "we" you talk about? Us transfer muppets, or are you suggesting that the United scouting team isn't doing their job?
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Dont take it personally, I actuallly am suspicious that his connection to us comes from his agent and I am unsure we are that interested. Nothing to get all wound up about
 
On the bell end scale, even at his tender years Balotelli makes Drogba look like Mother Teresa

I swear people just don't get the importance of team spirit, and well adjusted attitude. Ferguson has always spoke of just how important having the right mentality is. Nothing wrong with having arrogance, it's even important to have it, but when it's so destructively misguided as with Balotelli, it's nothing but bad news

Whoever signs him will waste a hell of a lot of money. Given we barely have any I'd be fecking furious if we were that club
 
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