Messi should come to England. Spains a league of fairysRooney at 18 would have pissed all over the Spanish league
No doubt.
Rooney pissed over defenses more as an 18 year old than he does as a 24 year old...
Mario Balotelli
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No doubt.
Rooney pissed over defenses more as an 18 year old than he does as a 24 year old...
Well his brain is not his strong side so he may very well choose Shitty. You wouldn't wear a Shitty jersey while playing for United, would you?
For all the Balotelli is an idiot jibes i reckon his arrogance will make him choose United.
Usually you would imagine that Mancini would get the deal down being his former manager and countryman but really i think he is a glory hunter type. He'd rather go to United in my opinion, of course we'll see. I'd love to see him in the prem either way but i think a Rooney - Balotelli parternship could be if nothing else explosive
Usually you would imagine that Mancini would get the deal down being his former manager and countryman but really i think he is a glory hunter type. He'd rather go to United in my opinion, of course we'll see. I'd love to see him in the prem either way but i think a Rooney - Balotelli parternship could be if nothing else explosive
I know.
He was easily the best of the three. Rooney at 18 took Euro 2004 by storm. Ronaldo was an exciting prospect and Messi looked a gifted footballer, but Rooney was a star at 18.
Easily?
He was excellent at 2004 euroes after showing he was an extremely talented and raw player with evertyon managing 9 goals in 40 appearances.
Then as a 19 year old he managed 17 in 43 and at 20 18 in 48.
Balotelli has hardly played as a striker as he ended up in wide positions under mourinho more than anything else yet he's managed 10 goals a season from 31 and 41 appearances respectively.
As for the Rooney better than Messi at the same age stuff... he had a great euro 2004 and a good start to his United career and looked like becoming the best in the world. Messi had a better goal ratio than Rooney at the same age whilst not having the luxury of breaking into a side like Everton, he had to contend with top players at Barcelona and he just like Rooney was touted as a player with the potential to be the best so to say Rooney was "easily the best of the three" is just plain biased.
Messi did go on and become the best, Rooney for me has never fulfilled his true potential.
I can see the sense in us signing the footballer Balotelli, not the person Balotelli. As unlike with our young strikers he does have some decent experience and would certainly be ready to deliver from next season onwards. However given the amount of strikers/attackers we have built up at the club, it would only make sense to bring him in if one or two of the others are leaving for pastures new. The manager has said both Berbatov and Owen are staying, so that would suggest it was a couple of our young strikers who wont be here, to create room for him. And I dont buy that. So I dont see our "interest" being reality. But I've been wrong before.
It doesnt say that.
Well to be fair to him and the footballing aspect of his game he's fully capable of playing on both wings(unlike Valencia), behind a target man and being like 6.3 as a target man with Rooney playing in the hole.
In any case he'd give us depth in many areas(like 4 positions winger each side and forward/striker). He's a hot prospect and the talent is clearly there but again, Adriano, Denilson, Quaresma etc had the obvious talent but things didn't work out well for them. 35mills is a huge price for a great talent with shite attitude.
Footballs a funny old game and this is a funny situation. I'm not sure how the media work out he's agreed to join us and yet city are favourites. Yes you've been wrong before, it's good to acknowledge this. I'm never wrong
and i'm getting that buzz you get when you know somethings going down. Just a feelingWhat does it say?
Its basically says that the deal had reached an important stage and that Raiola will meet Inter representatives to discuss all options. Now Shitty are set to offer 35m (including bonuses) to Inter. Stating that they have yet to agree to give 4-5m to the player (promised to him by United). There is nothing written that says that City's fee is superior to United's or that Moratti would like him to go to City. In fact the tgcom site said that our offer is in fact 35m.
Footballs a funny old game and this is a funny situation. I'm not sure how the media work out he's agreed to join us and yet city are favourites. Yes you've been wrong before, it's good to acknowledge this. I'm never wrong
We are the favorites (according to the media) and not Shitty
This guy was made for City. I'm sure SAF has realised this, and has shown 'interest' to trigger them into buying him, then he can sit back and watch the carnage introducing another ego amongst the mercenaries will cause, in the knowledge that a potential threat has been nullified
cheers for that. How reliable are the media btw? What's your opinion?
If we sign him, I must say I'd be very, very shocked.
Maybe you should remember that in the very same tournament (Euro 2004), Ronaldo took his team to the final, scoring three goals in the process. How Euro 2004 can be used to state that Rooney was much better than Ronaldo at that age baffles me.
Nah Rooney derfinitely looked like a better prospect around that time - not 'much better' though. Ronaldo overtook Rooney imo in the 2006/7 season
feck it lads, I'm having a wank over this one.
If the report is not from Ballague, United stand a chance.
Silly Season in full swing. We are not paying 35mil Euros for Mario Balotelli FACT!
If we are bidding that part of me hopes we fail as I don't think he is what the squad needs a creative CM is a must for this squad even if we move Obertan to ACM.
I also think his signing wouldn't really be good news for Marcheda, Welbeck or Hernandez all of whom can do a job for us this season. Don't get me wrong Mario is a better player than all of them at this stage, but they are on our books and we have a duty to develop them.
I wouldn't be pleased to see him go to City as I think they'd be buying a striker who one day could be even better than Drogba but I don't think spending close to 30mil on him should be our priority as it would leave the squad unbalanced.
I also think his signing wouldn't really be good news for Marcheda, Welbeck or Hernandez all of whom can do a job for us this season. Don't get me wrong Mario is a better player than all of them at this stage, but they are on our books and we have a duty to develop them.
I wouldn't be pleased to see him go to City as I think they'd be buying a striker who one day could be even better than Drogba but I don't think spending close to 30mil on him should be our priority as it would leave the squad unbalanced.
Benzema Mk II.
"We were interested in making an offer for the boy, but City made it clear they wanted him and were prepared to pay £35m which is more than we are willing to pay".
I'll be sad if thats the case but I'll have to agree with Ferguson, there is no point in getting into these ridiculous bidding wars.
"We were interested in making an offer for the boy, but City made it clear they wanted him and were prepared to pay £35m which is more than we are willing to pay".
I'll be sad if thats the case but I'll have to agree with Ferguson, there is no point in getting into these ridiculous bidding wars.
Not getting him hardly means we'll be moving on and signing a midfielder. Maybe we're just not planning on signing one. If Fergie has made his choice and it's Balotelli, I hope he gets his man.
Having said that, I'm having serious trouble believing this particular story. I can't see us signing him.
Totally agree, we need creative midfielders but maybe SAF feels thats a area we have players coming through
Another transfer down the drain then. Sigh.
Manchester City closing in on £35m Inter misfit Mario Balotelli
Read more: Manchester City closing in on £35m Inter misfit Mario Balotelli | Mail Online
Read more: Manchester City closing in on £35m Inter misfit Mario Balotelli | Mail Online
Possibly, its just that except for Obertan and Anderson I don't really see many young candidates for this position. I don't think Gibson is anywhere near the standard needed for a creative CM if thats what we see him as and Scholes as amazing a footballer as he is probably cannot start more than 30 games per season.
I think not getting him will hopefully mean we at least give more oportunities to Hernandez, Welbeck(if he stays) and Marcheda. I also think the more preseason games we play the more likely Fergie might realise the need for an extra CM.
There never has to be a bidding war. If the player wants to join a club, the selling club can't do much. If the player isn't arsed then you pull out but if you win the player then there is no bidding war but obviously it's all speculation
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Oh another thing is we understand his agent and inter creating interest that perhaps don't exist and it suits city as it makes them look like they got one over us but we've not denied it at the same time so it's bubbling away. Brace yourselves
Balotelli si avvicina al City. Ma Raiola frena: 'Oggi non si chiude'
Balotelli si avvicina al City. Ma Raiola frena: 'Oggi non si chiude' (13:28 del 19 luglio) | Mercato | Calciomercato.com
Balotelli si avvicina al City. Ma Raiola frena: 'Oggi non si chiude' (13:28 del 19 luglio) | Mercato | Calciomercato.com
Welbeck should go on loan regardless. With Rooney, Berbatov and Owen, we can/should only keep two of the four younger strikers. Anyhow, if we sign another striker, it will surely mean someone else leaves, so it won't change all that much.
As for our midfield, there's no chance those silly pre season games against Philadelphia or whatever will alter Fergie's thinking. Unless someone is injured.
Translate?
I don't know what the situation is at all, could be bullshit. But this isn't Benzema II, he had to choose between us and Madrid, not City. If a player doesn't want to go to one of the bidding clubs his club have no leverage. This could be our situation if its true. Balotelli won't go to City, but Inter want what they are offering.
The above is rumour and opinion btw.
The above is rumour and opinion btw.
basically it's nothing sure at the moment. City and United are interested and Balotelli and agent don't want to rush things and will decide his future in the coming days.
Signing Balotelli would satisfy the strategy of buying young players, but I would have thought shelling out GBP30m would be contradictory to Sir Alex's thoughts on "value"???
I can see your point but which youngsters aged 19 etc have shown as much as Balotelli?
You arent getting a young player you are getting an already proven good player with potential to be a great player. None of Uniteds young players have shown that they are ready to claim a starting spot on a regular basis, Balotelli would.
Value has nothing to do with price though, value is what you get for the money. In Balotelli it's a potentially brilliant footballer.
wait , are we seriously interested . i thought it was the agent trying to get attention.. dragging on a bit too long for that
seriously , balotelli for 30m ? i find it very hard to believe
seriously , balotelli for 30m ? i find it very hard to believe
If you sign someone like Balotelli its not about how good you are, but how good you can be, he is only 19 and really experienced for that age.
It also has to do with how long you stay at the club. For example £30m for David Villa you pay for a man whom will be at his best for 5-8 years. With Balotelli its 10-15 years, and the possibility to sell him later perhaps get £30m or more back selling him later.
To use a poker term, the implied odds are far better signing one of the best young forwards than a older one.
edit. Not to mention signing older foreigners are likely to flop. My opinion is that you should never sign a player over 25 from abroad into England. There are exceptions from the rule, but when you join England, you have to adapt into the hardest league to play in the world - the best way to adapt is to evolve - and elder players evolve less than younger players.
Basically the report is saying that he s close so signing to city and they want to settle the issue as quick as possible because they re think united might nick the player from under their noses. Their offer should be more than 25 million euros, somewhat near moratti's asking price of 35 m euros
However the fat bastard acting as his agent is saying that he s not in a hurry and he sees no agreement being reached in the next two days because there are other clubs interested but he wont mention names or figures.
translation - the fat bastard is trying to bleed city