Think it'll be another deal where that fee quickly looks far too small like Sancho. Great deal for Villa and although its awful to see Rashford and the manager fall out and Rashford not be able to change his mind, probably not changing, its at least good on his part (for both him and the club) that he hasnt turned his nose up at the prospect of a move to Villa, a smaller club. He could have said no and just continued to be frozen out at United which was a bad situation for everyone. He has the chance to show what he can do at Villa now.
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Still waiting for the day that this fee feels too small.
I agree. Think the club hit the absolute jackpot with this at the death of the window
Cant do anything for people in padded cells
A few seem to think that going off other posts.
I'm not sure why. The whole point of an option to buy is that it puts the power into the buying clubs hands - they're not obligated to buy, but if they opt to do so then the fee is arranged and nothing the selling club can do to alter it.
I guess the only thing that can change it is if the player reacts very unprofessionally and goes back on their word and absolutely refuses to join the club he'd agreed to. That may lead to the other club eventually missing out, but nothing we (the selling club) can do about the agreed fee now if Villa opt to take up the option.
I understand what you're saying but the main point is that Rashford's an inconsistent performer on extraordinarily high wages.
And it's the wages that are the significant factor here. They're the deterrent which undercut whatever purple patch he may have, and determine his market value. A player's only worth what another club is prepared to pay, and short of a Saudi bid there's nothing United can do about it. I think the club has done well out of this Villa deal...which don't forget has only really come about because Villa are now flush after the Duran sale.
As per @giorno, the latter part of your post isn't correct. Apparently Rashford has signed a pre contract with Villa - if they decide to take up the option to buy, both United and Rashford have to accept. Him refusing to join doesn't sound like it would hold up.
I wouldn't say it 'wasn't correct' - as I've been fully aware and keep posting that the whole point of an 'option to sign' puts the weight with the buying club as the agreements are in place with the selling club and player and it's up to them whether they opt to go ahead with it.
I was just saying that, I suppose the only thing that could be done from either party was if the player wanted to go somewhere else instead and point blank refused to fulfil the move - similar to, say, Obi Mikel when Chelsea came knocking. But, yeah, that very rarely happens so as I'd been posting - and contrary to some others who seem to misunderstand the whole 'option to buy' - there's not much we can do should Villa opt to take up the option, regardless of how well he did or how many other clubs become interested. It's not like we can initiate a bidding war and let Rashford decide for, as you say, it's all been agreed with Villa and it's up to them, not us, whether the deal goes through.
Do they? Pogba, Lingard and Martial aren't exactly tearing up trees. Kagawa was never the same, Mkhitaryan was largely similar to when he was here in that he was largely average and occasionally exceptional. Sancho is doing fine I suppose but not exactly flying... Greenwood is a very unusual case who's doing pretty well but good riddance to him. Most of our players are shit because of their attitudes and they're not suddenly going to become fully focused for years at a time when they leave for the most part. I hope Rashford can of course!
A little over the top and you should be warned for that. Sancho has been incredibly average.
He Must be loving to watch us without him 
yep. Been reported he's signed a 3 and a half year deal with Villa
yes of course
Legally he can't, if Villa trigger the option he's their player. Of course if the player absolutely doesn't want to be there they're unlikely to pick up the option in the first place, unless there's a third club lined up for a sale
We've lost 5 out of 9 PL games since he was left out of the team, the only goals we've scored have been by Amad, Martinez or penalties.
Rashford has to go, his time is done here. Our lack of goals cannot and will not change that.
I'm fine with Rashford going, but just don't think people should really blame him for us being shite, there's a lot of abstract talk about 'culture' etc but really it's more about players and managers not being good enough. When Rashford was playing, he was the target as the reason we were losing, when we are just as bad if not worse without him.
Cheshire & Staffordshire Police forces will be warming up their Speed-guns ready for some high-speed late-morning action from next week.
Should provide a local boost to the economy.
Rashy always thinking of others!
Can’t he get a helicopter commute like Michael Owen did when he played for Newcastle? (and possibly us from memory?)
It was the same story with Sancho ''get of rid of him ''he's a lazy cnt'' ''we don't need him he's toxic'' ''he's disrespected the club''. Months and months of hearing about Sancho being a bad apple, and people foaming at the mouth, couldn't wait to celebrate his departure as if it if he was one of the big problems because Ten Hag wanted role play Fergie.
I don't know if Ineos told Amorim to get rid of Rashford, but the extra's in press conferences to vilify his character was definitely not needed. You can see training 100 percent in training means fck all when you don't have the talent
So when I hear managers saying oh I can't start x player because he didn't do enough in training, red flags start ringing. Mctominay use to train like a beast every manager loved him but I'm sure no one would rather see him start over Mainoo, or Ugarte just because he puts in more effort in training.
Would have won even fewer if the eleven was carrying a passenger.
Surprised how many pro-Rashford’s are here. Him playing today would have been worse. Rashford apologists do realise that this guy barely runs right?
Yep, unbelievably they’re still around …they worship him no matter how shit he plays
Rashford apologists? barely runs? how he is still our second league goal scorer this season, how has he scored most of our most important goals through the last 10 years. It's amazing how easy it is for the media to run narratives manipulate and people parrot them word for word. If you had any idea of the shit Rashford has had to put up with behind the scenes with regards to the media, I'm surprised he hasn't lashed out to be honest, because I would be speaking out and getting my get back, I don't wouldn't care about the consequences. I would not let my name be assassinated like that just because I dared to feed starving children and drove a nice car and went to a Basket ball game and it rubbed people up the wrong way.
This is the problem, you think players showing passion and running around like headless chickens is what brings success. Every sunday league team has 11 players running around tracking back, putting 100 percent in training it's worthless if you are not good enough on match day.
Like Rashford has been for the last 2 years, while also putting no effort in off the ball.
He averages 10 goals a year, horrendous return for the money he has been on.
That's more than most prem wingers LWF's and we didn't buy him. There's players still here still getting games who are 200- 250k a week and never served any use, mount 250k, casimero is on 350k, antony on 200k, none of them have given 10 year service to the club and produced the best moments or be expected to carry the club on their shoulders. I grew up at a time when we backed our own players, when Becks was public enemy no 1 we all backed him, which helped get him through all the sickening abuse he recieved. Now we join in with the media who want to tear down our most talented players and brainwash the fans that you need to be a bag of meat who turns up and runs 90 minutes every game otherwise you are apparently ''disrespected the fans''
I've seen plenty of games by both Hojlund and Zirkee jog around the pitch and not bother track back, I don't really care because I don't get a hard on watching a striker run back and lunge in to tackles, the fact is they don't even produce and not capable of producing moments of brilliance. They haven't even scored in over 10 games as strikers and people would rather have these guys playing for us, than have rashford in the team because they seen him jog in moments in the game, or heard he doesn't train hard, or he drives a Rolls Royce or he doesn't dress ''appropriately''. It's ridiculous. I'm just so glad I'm not full of hate that I feel need to take out on people I don't know personally
Wehgorst use to run his socks off and cried when he scored once in a blue moon, I don't want passion merchants and runners I want players who are talented which is what Amorim said he first got here, but then he went with the ''I'm the big boss, I'd rather play a 63 year old goalkeeper over someone who doesn't train hard'' bs
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Well this isn't great. I mean he has been poor for two years but he is still better than Hojlund and Zirkzee.
He earned about 100mil so far(source: google). That's 10 mil per season since he came into the fray, so basically 1 million per goal per season,
Media? If anything the media has somewhat protected him.
People’s opinions are from their own eyes, watching a lethargic Rashford ambling about the pitch. The frustration boiling over is because people know how talented he can be but doesn’t show it anymore
It's good for the long term. You can't carry underperforming players on that scale of salary.
And he doesn’t want to play for United. The fact he’s happy to go to Villa says it all. Good riddance
It's a business move more than football imo. If we were paying Rashford close to what we pay Hojlund or Zirkzee he'd be starting every week.
He’s going to do well at Villa, you can see it written in the stars. He needs a new environment, end of. However, will he default to normal once he settles - of course he will. Anything he does positive will only reflect on how unprofessional he’s been for numerous managers here. The idiots who crawl out of the woodworks and up his virtual arse are just reacting to the shit show we see every week. Rashford isn’t the answer last season and isn’t the answer now.
How did you think he played in the Ole/Rangnick season?
He does need a move. But we need a striker.
Playing him undermines everything the manager is trying to do. It’s painful but him leaving is an important marker
If we can’t get one in, I’d be prepared to give chido some game time. He’s quick, good on the ball and has good instincts
Sorry but that is absolute nonsense. If he’s put 10x the effort in training as he puts in on the field it’s not enough and we know he’s a lazy arse in training because Amorim has called him out for it.
Surprised he put the effort in to pass his medical
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