Expecting the MR PR machine to be in full swing for a few solid months as well
Marcus Rashford (out) | signs for Villa on loan
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So basically villa pays around 200k for a 6 month boost on their CL campaign. Massive shirt sales boost as he's Rashford after all.
No obligation to buy. They could have just said thank you we dont want him comes next season and we'll be back to square one
But at least we've saved 200k and he can get play time, better than rotting in reserves
Not out in the wood just yet. Even if he bangs a few goals 300k permanent deal is too much, unless he magically pulls a Messi, which i doubt.
We've been mugged. But hey beggars can't choose
No obligation to buy. They could have just said thank you we dont want him comes next season and we'll be back to square one
But at least we've saved 200k and he can get play time, better than rotting in reserves
Not out in the wood just yet. Even if he bangs a few goals 300k permanent deal is too much, unless he magically pulls a Messi, which i doubt.
We've been mugged. But hey beggars can't choose
Yeah, on further thinking, have to agree that the amount, if we are to get it, will be good. Decent.
Lets first see what options he might have in summer than. He needs to play well and run but for 6 months he might be willing to do so
His goal contribution was very good for one of the last three full seasons - even setting aside his high wages and key player status, therfore high expectations, an attacker playing 32 and 43 games for United should be getting much more than 5 and 8 in those other two seasons. So I don't think those will be hard to replicate at all. Zirkzee and Hojlund are pretty much replicating them this season - Hojlund actually better - in what is rightly considered a pretty awful season for them so far.
Great deal for us.
70% is ok, 40m is almost an insult. 60m minimum in the current market.
Can he really refuse them after agreeing such deal 5 months prior? Would his reputation be further tarnished if he does that?
I hope he tears shit up at Villas so he can get his transfer option and then immediately return to mean.
I’d have thought so. It’s also up to Rashford, to see what’s out there. There’s a lot of parties at play still. We just have to hope that Rashford absolutely digs out blind for the next six months at villa which in turn make him a bit of hot property around Europe again. And of course, for INEOS to have the wisdom, to know that it’s over for him at United, regardless of how many trees he pulls up during this loan period.
Are any villa fans likely to buy anybody’s shirt in February? Especially one that’s possibly only there for 4 months?
Why does what someone wears in their free time bother you so much? Such a boomer complaint. Oh no he has a loud hoodie on.
Brazilian Ronaldo was a pioneer of don't give a shit stupid footballer hair cuts.
Great move for United, A 5-6 m savings on his wages over the next 6 months is good enough to cover Dorgu signing and half of a loan for another attacker (hopefully Tel).
That’s much better for us than having him on the training field without getting on the subs bench.
Marcus will have a blinder of a 6 months at Villa - no doubt about that: he’s a player who can really turn it up when he wants to. He’ll be motivated to prove how good he is, and Villa will benefit massively. Let’s see if he will be able to maintain it 2-3 years from now.
That’s much better for us than having him on the training field without getting on the subs bench.
Marcus will have a blinder of a 6 months at Villa - no doubt about that: he’s a player who can really turn it up when he wants to. He’ll be motivated to prove how good he is, and Villa will benefit massively. Let’s see if he will be able to maintain it 2-3 years from now.
Absolutely not.
Give over, he's been poor for 3 years, we need to stop over valuing our players.
United are never going to get £60m for him given the wages he’s on, never mind the form he’s in.
I don't think so. Rashfords head had already gone long before RM arrived.
Hope he does well so Villa actually buy him
Better than any of us thought. Anyone who thinks we could get more has rose tinted glasses on remembering his last purple patch two years ago.
If he does do really well Villa have got a good deal. Not a bargain - just a good deal. There needs to be a potential upside for them or they wouldn't agree to the deal in the first place.
More likely the 40m is a PR spin and if Villa want to keep him they will ignore the option and renegotiate afresh. However they know that they can never be 100% priced out of keeping him with the option.
In all liklihood Rashford will perform better with Villa. He's been with United since he was 7 and being there for so long it's understandable (but not acceptable) for him to be blasé about Carrington and Old Trafford. Going into a new club he will have to put a lot more effort in there right from hhe start. He will also be motivated to prove people wrong.
There is still a good chance that we end up back with him in the summer but that might actually not be a bad thing. Having an air gap at Villa will only help give perspective. By then Ruebens system will be more adopted and more players will have arrived. Whilst Marcus might not be ideal for our new play style when on form he has enough to his game to be a good option if motivated - but he needs to be a team player and not always cut inside and try to beat too many players or just shoot.
The above might be enough for Marcus to buy into the project. He always said he wanted challenge.
Normally with a loan of a senior player between top flight clubs you'd expect a sizeable loan fee - I can't see any talk of that. And we're also covering some of the wages, so we're in effect helping to pay Rashford to play for Villa, rather than them paying us. That's not an absolute steal from us - that's good negotiating once again from Villa. If he fails, he hasn't cost them much. If he succeeds, they've got themselves a good deal.
I imagine if we sign an attacking player on loan to replace Rashford - such as Tel or Nkunku - there'll be a sizeable loan fee involved. But it would be great if there wasn't.
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It's because he's not backing it up with performances on the pitch. That's why it bothers me. Shows that he's more concerned about image and ego rather than playing football at this point.Why does what someone wears in their free time bother you so much? Such a boomer complaint. Oh no he has a loud hoodie on.
Brazilian Ronaldo was a pioneer of don't give a shit stupid footballer hair cuts.
If he was doing his job properly on the pitch, he could dress up like a clown and it wouldn't bother me at all.
Why the feck are we including a buy option clause? That’s absolute madness. It’s of no benefit at all to us and, if Rashford tears it up, we will have the best clubs in Europe lining up to sign him.
I'd say the way he has handled the whole situation is more like his first trophy.
It’s the total opposite. Finally someone has the nuts to call the right shots for the good of the team. The tail was wagging the dog for a little while there. This is a prime Fergie move.
Yeah feck off Marcus. We're obsessed with our academy players, we like to think it's something that makes us special. The streak of having a graduate in the squad for ages, the "you can't win anything with kids" etc. If the majority of the fanbase turns against one of our academy players, the player needs to take a good look at the mirror.
This guy is “staff” .Why does what someone wears in their free time bother you so much? Such a boomer complaint. Oh no he has a loud hoodie on.
Brazilian Ronaldo was a pioneer of don't give a shit stupid footballer hair cuts.
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If that was the case, pretty sure Rashford would just turn down Villa's offer.
No offence but this is the sort of thinking that saw us retain Lingard after his West Ham loan, or give the likes of Jones and Bailly new 5 year deals, to ‘protect their value’.
If we’re sure he isn’t good enough, back your judgement, and have the confidence to cut and run. That’s the sort of decisive mindset we’ve been lacking.
Don't do drugs kids.
What's your point?
Only 40 million? Those over transfers showing how desperate they are to get rid of him.
We aren’t cutting and running though - that would be if Villa had an obligation to buy. An option for Villa means that we lose all control - he has a Lingard like loan and we don’t get the benefit of other clubs being interested. He is awful and Villa don’t exercise it anyway.
Absolute drivel but expected given the state of some of our fans these days, the boss has played this perfectly as the only guilty party here is Rashford and his unprofessional attitude.
Is this a question or statement? It's daft either way.
So happy about this loan with option to buy. We just can’t have a player who get paid superstar wages without actually being one.
I hope he does great for them and we get the transfer fee as well.
This reset is long overdue. Rúben Amorim, you are the right man. Not wasting any time and has shown he can stand in the midst of the storm.
I hope he does great for them and we get the transfer fee as well.
This reset is long overdue. Rúben Amorim, you are the right man. Not wasting any time and has shown he can stand in the midst of the storm.
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