Kinda reminds me of their Coutinho signing. Hope he has a great 6 months playing for Villa.
Marcus Rashford (out) | signs for Villa on loan
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This should finally answer the Rashford question. He is going to a well drilled club under a experienced and well regarded manager. If he doesn't smash it there, the problem is him.
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So you love your club so much to, lie about nights out before matches and then proceed to train badly, during a period when young strikers needed him lead the way and also support them? That would be a very weird love.
Not all clubs interested would have been loans, and even there was, he could have agreed a structure similar to Villa, but with a wage cut, clearly he didn't want to compromise to join AC Milan for example.
I don't understand how people are still defending Rashford. Putting blame on the club, he has been protected the most, for years and he got away with it. The club finally wants to sort the issue and it starts with the likes of him, toxic, giving interviews saying things like leaving on his own terms etc.
Regarding Casimero, there simply was very little interest, there is no reports of an interester club going into negotiations like Tyrell with Benfica and it breaking down due to financial reasons.
A buy 'option' - not guarantee - leaves it all up to Villa, not us.
No matter how good he performs, we can't get more than £40m if Villa opt to take up the option. But with it not being a 'guaraantee' to buy, they can opt not to take it up of course if the loan is a failure - but then his stock would be even lower and we'd struggle to get anyone to go as high as that.
He'll score on debut, media and a few posters will have a field day going "haha you see Rashy is great, it was never his fault", we'll have to endure that shitshow for a week and then he'll pretty much suck for the rest of the season, Sancho at Dormund style.
I hope he does very well there and gets permanent transfer in the Summer.
There is no way back for him. Hopefully we can part ways in a way that benefits him and United
There is no way back for him. Hopefully we can part ways in a way that benefits him and United
Ok with that. Wow, finally. No more Lingard, Pogba, Sancho and Rashford. Players living off the goodwill of United fans to live the high life without caring about the fans. Gone. Can't wait.
That's a red flag to me straight away!
Hope he goes there an excels so they take the buy option.
Doubt he will be playing for Villa in the summer.
So we’re to believe Marcus called someone to confirm his travel daily plans before a medicalAccording to Winter, who you’d imagine is in the know, Rashford is going to commute to Birmingham.
So staying in Manchester - surrounded by all the same influences, but travelling down and back from training every day and travelling down for games.
I really want this to work so we can get a decent fee and his wages covered in the summer, but to say I’m sceptical of how big a success it’s going to be is a massive understatement.
So many gullible people wanting to believe everything they read by sports reporters…
Think back to 2021, just after Sancho signed for the club. We had Pogba, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Martial leading our attacking threat, a lineup of players you'd think would set us up for a decade or more. Less than four years down the line, they're all gone for a combined total of less than £100m, a sum we might have laughed at as being ridiculous valuation at the time. How quickly things change in football. How disappointing it's all turned out to be.
Cultural reboot, hasn'n been in the match squad for most matches. I don't like it when people are singled out. People have to be treated with respect. Fingers crossed that he regains his form and everyone moves on.
I can certainly see the second and third options as possibilities, yeah.
Is the first one possible?
The whole point of arranging an option to buy, with an agreed fee, is surely that if Villa opt to take it up then we can't accept any bids from elsewhere.
I guess Rashford could refuse to join Villa because suddenly a Barcelona or someone wants him - but even then I can't see those clubs bidding more than the £40m we'd have already accepted from Villa by then as they know we'd have to sell Rashford if he's playing up and demanding a move and stuck between us, Villa and other suitors. There's no point then getting into a bidding war with us - it would be Rashford they'd be trying to throw more money at to get him to join them.
Hope they don’t find that he doesn’t have the heart for it.
Maybe he will put the effort in for 3 months to get the contract/move. He’s done that before.
Then we can watch as he phones it in for Villa next season and gets ‘ill’ every few weeks after a bender and late flights from around the world
The more he scores the better the chance they will take up that option.
Let them cry all they want. It’s the right thing to do st this point
It's the first dent in Amorims reputation that he's unable to get Rashford firing again and destroyed him publicly?
Marcus Rashford the first human being to live without a heart
I'll wait for some to say akshually...
First trophy more like.
There’s no dent in Amorim’s reputation here!
It’s Rashford that’s destroying his own reputation/career.
When rashford played well we played well. His goal contributions have still been good over the last few years and will be hard to replicate. However he is the answer and the problem. Not much space at united to a player that literally yoyos in form. And recently it's been at the bottom for a little too long.
Rubbish. Rashford downed tools before Amorim even came to club. Rashford told the media he wanted a new challenge after being dropped for ONE game.
If anything, Amorim has laid the ground for destruction of player power at Utd.
Utd reset in full swing.
The complete opposite in my eyes. He’s not tolerating poor attitudes, holding players responsible for the first time in years and raising standards which have been at rock bottom since I'd say Woodward and Co.
All the dents are in Rashfords reputation.
He was singles out for his regular partying, there has been chatter around Manchester this was going on for while but recently he was caught and then denied it. If you listen carefully to Rubens comments about Rashford you will understand.
The training was probably the least damaging thing he could say to keep his value up. He can't say he was allegedly so drunk , he had to be carried out, just 2 days before a match, that would destroy any chance of a good fee.
This feels like its half for us, and half for Marcus directly.
Winter seems to have a real soft spot for him and is almost trying to give him some advice.
Will be interesting to see how this goes. If Emery can facilitate a switch in Rashford then he really would be a miracle worker.
Dent? He's the first manager to be empowered enough to properly deal with him!
I don't think it will definitively answer it either way. Maybe if he continues to struggle then, yeah, it suggests something has permanently gone wrong physically or mentally in terms of performing at the top level.
However, if he suddenly starts smashing it there during the loan, and showing much more effort and positive body language on the pitch, we still won't know why he wasn't doing that here for much of the last few years? And whether that was his fault for lacking motivation - that the move has reawakened - or the clubs fault somehow.
And only the long-term will tell whether any positive upturn is a permanent, consistent thing - which would be new - or just one of the occasional purple patches that we've seen at United a few times before the bad spells recur. If he remains inconsistent - some high highs, but low lows - then that suggests that's just the kind of player he is. But we need to see that over the long term that he's away from United, not just how the initial loan spell goes.
Overall a decent solution for all parties involved for now.
We can concentrate on the rest of the season, save wages for a player our coach does not use.
He can prove a point, keep his center of living for now and see what the situation is in the summer.
Villa get a good player (everybody saying he is completely useless is an idiot) without much risk and if things turn out better than expected could even buy him.
What I am not sure about is if the option is 40 Mio plus all wages covered by Villa? I would be surprised they would think about it.
We probably keep paying a part of his wages bringing the price more down to 20-30 Mio.
We can concentrate on the rest of the season, save wages for a player our coach does not use.
He can prove a point, keep his center of living for now and see what the situation is in the summer.
Villa get a good player (everybody saying he is completely useless is an idiot) without much risk and if things turn out better than expected could even buy him.
What I am not sure about is if the option is 40 Mio plus all wages covered by Villa? I would be surprised they would think about it.
We probably keep paying a part of his wages bringing the price more down to 20-30 Mio.
100% agree, Rashford has truly shot himself in the foot.
exactly
Henry Winter is considered the closest journalist to Rashford's camp. I do apologize for not finding such reliable source myself
No way, total opposite.
Fair play to Amorim and his team, the hierarchy feel same way so off he goes.
Amorium can't afford to carry the weak in his rebuild.
One of the worst takes I've read.
Him leaving will feel like a new era.
He wasn’t going to rediscover anything here, so it’s easier to swallow really. Even if he tears it up, scores 15 goals and wins them the champions league, he wasn’t even going to play if he stayed here.
Best we can hope for now is he does smash it, I don’t really see why it makes sense for us to hope he flops. There were some posters here saying we’d be lucky to get 20m for him! So why not hope he does well, they take up the option for 40 and we all get on with our lives.
Did the press regularly print pics of Rashford? Can't remember, once or twice, sure, but not weekly, imo. It reeks putting the blame on an easy target.
Rashford is a class talent, the manager should be able to make it work instead of exiling and getting in different personal. The manager is the much older person, it doesn't look good on him, IMO.
I think United will regret this one. He's one of the us, he should have ended his career here.
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70% and 40M is an absolute steal….for us
He’s been a nothing player for us for quite some time so that sounds like a great deal to me.
He could win the ballon dor at Aston Villa and I wouldn’t care less. Let’s hope he performs to a suitable standard to ensure we pocket that money
He’s been a nothing player for us for quite some time so that sounds like a great deal to me.
He could win the ballon dor at Aston Villa and I wouldn’t care less. Let’s hope he performs to a suitable standard to ensure we pocket that money
The transfer fee is irrelevant. I really don't see Rashford agreeing to join them long term.
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